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Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery?
    #26046100 - 06/11/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I'm just curious how much effort people put into avoiding identification on here?  Do you use a VPN or Tor?  Did you register with a secure email address?

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Noc] * 2
    #26046119 - 06/11/19 03:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

There really is no point.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? *DELETED* [Re: kep]
    #26046181 - 06/11/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: EastBayRay]
    #26046240 - 06/11/19 04:12 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

My reasoning is assumptions. I assume the DEA isn't going to track down small time grows. State police aren't going to do it either, they'd have to figure out if you're even in their state in the first place.

Using VPNs is a good practice but I don't use them for shroomery. They're great when you want to avoid getting sued for pirating tho.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: kep]
    #26046887 - 06/11/19 09:10 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I see people post detailed logs of their activity here.  Thought more people would be worried about consequences.  But I do understand that law enforcement likely has much better things to do.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Noc] * 2
    #26085633 - 07/02/19 07:05 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I feel the best way to get caught is by selling/your buyers getting busted.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: kep]
    #26085906 - 07/02/19 10:26 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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kep said:
My reasoning is assumptions. I assume the DEA isn't going to track down small time grows. State police aren't going to do it either, they'd have to figure out if you're even in their state in the first place.

Using VPNs is a good practice but I don't use them for shroomery. They're great when you want to avoid getting sued for pirating tho.



You never know what the future holds, though. Maybe they'll find the resources to crack down on all the IP's they logged. Maybe you'll become a big enough target. Silk Road founder got taken down with an IP address from an email that he sent years before creating the marketplace.

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    #26086623 - 07/02/19 04:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: EastBayRay]
    #26095855 - 07/08/19 08:49 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I guess there is no way to prove that just because someone uses this website they grow illegal mushrooms. If people were discussing making harder drugs attitudes about VPNs may be different.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Noc]
    #26096559 - 07/08/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

No to all of those questions.

First, I'm not doing anything even remotely illegal right now (I don't even have any weed currently), so it wouldn't make any difference anyway. The best way to stay out of trouble with the law is to just not do anything illegal.

However, even years ago when I was doing stuff that was illegal, I still didn't use anything like that. Maybe because I was young and thought I was invincible, but also I doubt that anyone has ever been arrested for their posts here. Still, you never know, I guess it's possible.

I don't want to criticize that stuff, there are probably valid reasons why someone might go that route, but I wouldn't use it myself.

If everyone on earth found out who I really was, that wouldn't be the end of the world for me. I'm proud to have had the honor of being a part of this wonderful community, and experiencing the things I've been lucky enough to experience. My experiences with you guys and with psychedelics have been one of the real highlights of my whole life.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: nooneman]
    #26297826 - 11/04/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

It's ridiculous paranoia to need tor or a vpn for anything on the net. I know computer security and really if you need either, it has to be a shared internet connection, and even then the hacker has to redirect the dns or in laymen terms net traffic to steal your data. Most of the time you need local access to hack or to virtually disguise yourself as an support techie to gain credentials to remotely access a system.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: FungiMaster] * 1
    #26298796 - 11/04/19 04:00 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, were you here two months ago for the hack that caused them to take down the whole Shroomery for a month? Are you aware how much behavioral data they collect these days on sites like facebook, google, amazon?

One database knows that FungiMaster is into shrooms and whatever other illegal things you talk about here. Another database knows Joe Blow lives at this address and likes to order manufacturing paraphernalia online. It doesn't matter what username you use or fake address you enter or prepaid card you pay with if it's all linked to the same Internet Provider # with all of your personal info.

IMO, a VPN is the foundation to any anonymous web activity. Without one, you're basically signing each post and link with your first and last name.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Icon]
    #26298945 - 11/04/19 04:59 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

They don't take data from sites like this bro. What the shroomery sells data on us? Bullshit.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: FungiMaster]
    #26299050 - 11/04/19 05:37 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

But they collect your IP address, which a hacker or detective could use to link to your facebook, gmail, instagram, etc. that are all logging in from that same IP. Or they could get a warrant for your internet activity from the internet provider which would show you visiting the shroomery.org IP address. With a VPN, whether you go to shroomery, dmtnexus or pornhub, it all looks like VPN.com to the provider. And all those websites record that they're being accessed by VPN.com in Argentina or wherever you choose to spoof from. 99% chance most people have never been the target of a hack or investigation, but it could happen and a VPN is pretty cheap and effective security if you think someone could gain from targeting you.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: kep]
    #26311305 - 11/10/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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kep said:
There really is no point.



:whathesaid:

No one has done anything on this site that law enforcement would be interested in besides the few people who have tried to buy or sell drugs using the PM system. And those people get banned.

20+ years of operation and 1000s of members posting their grow pictures
And in all that time not a single person has been targeted by the law for posting here or what they posted here.
Not a single subpoena request in all that time either. (Which would be challenged anyway)

If you think you need security here it only goes to show how little you actually know about security, laws, and internet OPsec.

In fact using tor or vpn is probably going to make you look more suspicious and a target for investigation if anyone happened to notice. And that most(all) people would eventually identify themselves by doing something stupid that tor or vpn wouldn't protect against anyway.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Icon]
    #26312344 - 11/10/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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But they collect your IP address, which a hacker or detective could use to link to your facebook, gmail, instagram, etc. that are all logging in from that same IP. Or they could get a warrant for your internet activity from the internet provider which would show you visiting the shroomery.org IP address. With a VPN, whether you go to shroomery, dmtnexus or pornhub, it all looks like VPN.com to the provider. And all those websites record that they're being accessed by VPN.com in Argentina or wherever you choose to spoof from. 99% chance most people have never been the target of a hack or investigation, but it could happen and a VPN is pretty cheap and effective security if you think someone could gain from targeting you.





Yah if you knew how the internet worked you wouldn't be so scared. So what if someone has your IP address they have not much man. They'd have to find out the ISP, call in and get an account name (which isn't going to happen, they don't release the info) to get a name for the facebook account.

And as for the police tracking you, they don't do that. It would have to be someone at the FBI dude. A Major investigation or something. It's not going to happen any time soon.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26312845 - 11/11/19 01:14 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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In fact using tor or vpn is probably going to make you look more suspicious and a target for investigation if anyone happened to notice.



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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: FungiMaster] * 1
    #26313109 - 11/11/19 07:10 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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FungiMaster said:Yah if you knew how the internet worked you wouldn't be so scared. So what if someone has your IP address they have not much man. They'd have to find out the ISP, call in and get an account name (which isn't going to happen, they don't release the info) to get a name for the facebook account.

And as for the police tracking you, they don't do that. It would have to be someone at the FBI dude. A Major investigation or something. It's not going to happen any time soon.




It happens all the time in criminal investigations for robberies and violent offenses. Most people aren't involved or affected by serious crime, but it does happen.

Give one example how using a VPN would make you more of a target than not. For someone to even discover that you're using a VPN, they would have to already be investigating you and targeting your internet data. You can't affect their suspicions until that moment that they either get your real data, or not. If you have nothing to hide anyway, then of course don't bother with a VPN. But if you think that not using a VPN is going to somehow let you hide in plain sight, that's ignorant of how an investigation works. Using a VPN doesn't pop you out of the masses of "normal" internet surfers until the moment it comes into effect by blocking a conscious party's attempt to interpret that data.

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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Icon]
    #26314760 - 11/11/19 09:59 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

It is my understanding that an ISP will know automatically when you fire up a VPN.


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Re: Do you use Tor/VPN for Shroomery? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26315188 - 11/12/19 06:21 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

They'll have a log of your traffic going to VPN.com instead of A, B and C.
They could run a search for all users accessing VPN.com, but I'd rather be on that list than being pulled up just as easily in a search for users accessing shroomery.org. ISP's will willingly provide data to law enforcement, whereas most VPN companies are not even American or within the "five eyes" of digital surveillance. Surfing in privacy is a right, and there's nothing LEO or ISP can do to access the real records, no matter how suspicious I make them.

In 2014, there were over 400 million VPN users. Today, western countries actually lag behind the rest of the world where an estimated 25% of world population uses a VPN. Whether it be to access websites banned in their country, hide traffic from the government, access banned websites at school/work, to torrent, etc.

Using a VPN is not a reason alone for a warrant, which they would already have had to be looking at your data anyway. So it blocks the warrant attempt and makes it impossible for them to get a warrant outside their jurisdiction. Unless they already have damning evidence to continue investigating, they're not going to become more suspicious when there's millions of other people in your state using the same service.

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