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OfflineMrFahrenheit
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These ready for fruiting conditions? Also: good heat sources?
    #26041974 - 06/09/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Edit for another Q:
Anyone know good alternatives to space heaters to keep a greenhouse tent warm? You can see my setup (minus a couple improvements) in my sig...
Those trays on the bottom always get hella dry from being directly exposed to the warm air coming out.
I've just put an old SGFC lid under them to hopefully mitigate this. Would having the heater up top make more sense?



Hey guys, quick question for you...
I just introduced 7 trays to fruiting conditions today. Most are about ~80% surface colonized. Just wondering if maybe it was a bad idea. Here are pics



Sorry some pics are a bit bad. Took them on my way out. Two are lagging a bit behind. I assume they are dry as they are on the lowest shelf of my greenhouse tent with the heater on the bottom. Still think it will be okay?


Edited by MrFahrenheit (06/09/19 10:27 PM)


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: MrFahrenheit]
    #26042007 - 06/09/19 03:08 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Hey bud. No worries- the consensus anymore is that there is no distinction between spawning to sub & fruiting conditions- it's all the same. Most everyone anymore spawns to sub and immediately introduces it to fruiting conditions. No more taping up holes or leaving it in the dark. I wouldn't worry. You're good


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: sillypsilocybe]
    #26042098 - 06/09/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Spawning conditions are fruiting conditions. Plugging off air and putting them in the dark is stalling conditions and outdated, incorrect and counter productive information.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X]
    #26042104 - 06/09/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X] * 1
    #26042110 - 06/09/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Professor X said:
Spawning conditions are fruiting conditions. Plugging off air and putting them in the dark is stalling conditions and outdated, incorrect and counter productive information.





More advice like this.
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'Stalling conditions' ..I likes.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: mushboy]
    #26042123 - 06/09/19 03:56 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
Quote:

Professor X said:
Spawning conditions are fruiting conditions. Plugging off air and putting them in the dark is stalling conditions and outdated, incorrect and counter productive information.





More advice like this.
:nodofunderstanding:

'Stalling conditions' ..I likes.




Not doubting this, as it seems to be the most current way of thinking, but my thought about fruiting at spawn was always that uncolonized substrate is susceptible to contamination, which is why we used to let the mycelium get a foothold before introducing to open air.  Why is that not the case?


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: unfortunategent]
    #26042136 - 06/09/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It's already in open air. Everything is open air execpt the colonization of spawn.

Someone tells you uncolonized sub/air contaminates things then they are flat out wrong or some noob:shrug:


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: unfortunategent]
    #26042143 - 06/09/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The grain is colonized and the non nutritious sub is sterile. The cube is going to win that one every time. I left some coir to the open air to see if it would mold and over a month later it was still like it was when I made it, no mold.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X]
    #26042164 - 06/09/19 04:26 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Most coir is not sterile as bucket tek and pasteurization is never giving you a sterile end product.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: mushboy]
    #26042168 - 06/09/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I PC mine to be sure. I pack it in an oven bag and run it with 7qts of grain. 2 hours at 15-20. I've used eco earth without PC with no issues but I don't recommend that. I have extra spawn so a loss doesn't hurt like it would someone that just started.

Lost another shoebox to mean green yesterday mid 2nd flush, it already spit out a canopy of 1.5oz dry from a quart of sketchy spawn so no big loss. I've decided whole grain rice is bad, 100% of the time it contaminates after the 1st flush whereas I've had WBS bacterial subs go 7 and 8 flushes with no mold.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X]
    #26042835 - 06/09/19 10:25 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Appreciate the advice guys. Had holes taped and lights off up until now. Didn't wrap them or anything. Next time I'll immediately introduce fruiting conditions. Nothing worse than wasted efforts.

Also edited the original post with a second question I just had now. Hope that's alright.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: MrFahrenheit]
    #26042867 - 06/09/19 10:48 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Room temperature is optimal. No need for a heater. Anywhere between 68 - 80 is fine. Heaters just cause problems.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X]
    #26042877 - 06/09/19 10:54 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Room temperature is optimal. No need for a heater. Anywhere between 68 - 80 is fine. Heaters just cause problems.




Unfortunately I live a ways up north and with no heater my therm dips to about 40-50 down there at night sometimes.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: MrFahrenheit]
    #26042882 - 06/09/19 10:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

If you must use a heater keep it away from the gh.

Heat the room. Heating inside a gh sounds ... I dunno.. like a bad idea?:shrug:


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: MrFahrenheit]
    #26042888 - 06/09/19 11:00 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I hear you. You could use an extra tub lid to deflect the direct hot air. A thermostatic controller would be a good investment.

I agree with mushboy, heating the gh sounds like a bad idea. Much better to heat the room.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: Professor X]
    #26042956 - 06/09/19 11:51 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

If I could do that I would but this is in the corner of an unfinished basement. The space heater would be running 24/7 and I'd rather avoid the extra electrical costs.

I like the tub lid idea might try that if the other sgfc lid doesn't quite cut it. Thanks.


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Re: These ready for fruiting conditions? [Re: MrFahrenheit]
    #26042974 - 06/10/19 12:20 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Get a mini fridge to store agar and spore syringes and what not in your basement and then leave them on or around that. It gives off a fair amount of heat and should keep them warm.

Unfortunately I have the opposite issue with ambient temps over here consistently reaching around 30 degrees c!


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