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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035572 - 06/06/19 01:12 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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The Occurrence of Cocaine in Egyptian Mummies -New research provides strong evidence for a trans-Atlantic dispersal by humans, "The genus name Erythroxylum refers to the characteristic red colored wood and the red bark of these plants . The original name coca originates from the Aymara word "khoka", which simply means „tree‟ in the language of this ancient American tribe."

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035587 - 06/06/19 01:23 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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The Last Step in Cocaine Biosynthesis Is Catalyzed by a BAHD Acyltransferase.

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035607 - 06/06/19 01:40 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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Variation of alkaloid content in erythroxylum coca leaves from leaf bud to leaf drop.

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035609 - 06/06/19 01:41 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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The Effects of Ambient Solar UV Radiation on Alkaloid Production by
Erythroxylum novogranatense var. novogranatense.

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035872 - 06/06/19 07:13 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Not asking for specific sources at all but are these available online or is it mostly trade between people in the know? I have searched for them before and came up dry. Think they'd go quite nicely with my kratom, salvia, peyote and cannabis.

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Re: Coca growers [Re: jellyfish]
    #26035909 - 06/06/19 07:52 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Most of them i found are online, but hard to find. Some are for sell, and the rest are sharing in the forum. Still looking for a few, if anyone have any, please share!
This ones:

1. Cocaine and Cinnamoylcocaine Content of Erythroxylum Species
Plowman, T.; Rivier, L.Annals of Botany (London) 51(5): 641-660 .1983

2. Effect of soil pH on mineral element concentrations of two erythroxylum species
, Emanuel L. Johnson , T. Austin Campbell  & Charles D. Foy

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26035925 - 06/06/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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Alright I downloaded that first paper. will find the other one in a sec. How do I share them


edit edit: can't believe I don't know how to attach a PDF on this forum...

Edited by jellyfish (06/06/19 08:21 AM)

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Re: Coca growers [Re: jellyfish]
    #26035948 - 06/06/19 08:14 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26035961 - 06/06/19 08:19 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)
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Thanks man. Do people trade e. novo in the marketplace forum? It's legality seems open to interpretation or am I wrong?

Edited by jellyfish (06/06/19 08:20 AM)

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Re: Coca growers [Re: jellyfish]
    #26035973 - 06/06/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

coca plants are on the forbidden items list in the marketplace

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26035978 - 06/06/19 08:27 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Alright sorry should have checked. Thanks. I'll find one eventually though it would be really cool to have.

I have access to a good number of journals so any other papers I can try to find but honestly sci hub is great

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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26036076 - 06/06/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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coca plants are on the forbidden items list in the marketplace




What about seeds ie berrys?
Are these allowed tradeitems?
I have read the marketplace rules and dont find any coca seed rules.
If you arent judging that a coca seed is a coca plant that is.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mateo]
    #26036145 - 06/06/19 10:09 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Generally it depends on US law, as to what is forbidden or not. Best to ask a marketplace mod for clarification on berries.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26036270 - 06/06/19 11:26 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I want all of you to be aware of this.Since Colombia is so diverse in coca genetics there was just a matter of time untill something spectacular will happen.
Unlike boliviana negra which is just a strain resistant to herbicide, this variety of Peruvian coca (E.coco var coca) and Pajarita ( E.novo var trux) gave a more productive plant. It might be the best of all yet. The thing with cocas in Colombia is that they mixed so much, i dont think you ll find pure E.Novo or pure E.coca easily. So no one knows whom are the parents of this Catatumbo strain, for sure it is not the product of the pure strains but a variation of all of them.(i had a scientific paper which said E.coca and E.novo are unlikely to breed)
I dont know the alkaloid concetration but just the abundace of leaf mass and size is what makes you want it, bigger E.coca leaf with bushiness of E.novo.
I ve seen a lot of videos and pictures from South America about coca but no plant looked as good as this one.
My advice is that you should try to grab that strain because it made itself stand out.Let me know what you think, check the video and pics.









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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26036283 - 06/06/19 11:38 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Well, im not going to make any Marketplace trades with coca berrys.
Im more intrested how EG judges a scenario where one member see another member posting pics of his berries and asks this member if he can share some.
Would that be against the rules?


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mateo]
    #26036330 - 06/06/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

That would be against the EG rules.
If berries are illegal under US law then that would be against the Shroomery rules in general and forbidden to trade in the marketplace or via pm/journals.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #26036361 - 06/06/19 12:26 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

OK, then there is no doubt about that anymore.
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Re: Coca growers [Re: Tim0ne]
    #26036527 - 06/06/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I want all of you to be aware of this.Since Colombia is so diverse in coca genetics there was just a matter of time untill something spectacular will happen.
Unlike boliviana negra which is just a strain resistant to herbicide, this variety of Peruvian coca (E.coco var coca) and Pajarita ( E.novo) gave a more productive plant. It might be the best of all yet. The thing with cocas in Colombia is that they mixed so much, i dont think you ll find pure E.Novo or pure E.coca easily. So no one knows whom are the parents of this Catatumbo strain, for sure it is not the product of the pure strains but a variation of all of them.(i had a scientific paper which said E.coca and E.novo are unlikely to breed)
I dont know the alkaloid concetration but just the abundace of leaf mass and size is what makes you want it, bigger E.coca leaf with bushiness of E.novo.
I ve seen a lot of videos and pictures from South America about coca but no plant looked as good as this one.
My advice is that you should try to grab that strain because it made itself stand out.Let me know what you think, check the video and pics.











These coca plants look as they grow very good and are really bushy.
I wish my plants looked like these ones, maybe with time they can be large and bushy also.
They say in the video its some cross between two kinds, E. Coca v. Coca and E. Novo v. novo.
I think they look very much like my E. Novogratinese var. Truxillence, allthough mine is very small.
Same look on the leafs and i dont see any parallell lines or maybe faint ones (in one pic when he put the leafs in front of his eyes).
I imagine Truxillence coca could look something like the plants in the video if grown in perfect conditions.

I think the different variations of coca has allways mixed and new crosses emerges, especially when humans alter their growing conditions in different ways.
Beautiful plants but sad conditions for the people living there.


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Re: Coca growers [Re: Mateo]
    #26036545 - 06/06/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Coca berries are no-go, but Novo's berries are still fine right?

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Re: Coca growers [Re: JoeMama1992]
    #26036579 - 06/06/19 02:31 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

How is that, are E.Novo really legal in the US?

Many countries have outlawed all plants containing cocaine alkaloids, but seeds are mostly legal as they are free from the alkaloids.


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