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Internet/phones are sentient *UN DELETED* * 1
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Post deleted by John_1098

Reason for deletion: Too crazy for the world to handle

Edited by John_1098 (06/04/19 11:31 AM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Can anyone relate to anything I just said?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098] * 1
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Turn off yer phone and wear yer goggles...



Because - yes they communicate, but no it's not the internet - it's been going on long before then.  :laugh2:

Just ask the dude in the photo...


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient *DELETED* [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
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Post deleted by John_1098

Reason for deletion: They told me to


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Where can i purchase a pair of said goggles?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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They are special.  Search for "mushroom goggles".  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Can't see the OP because "deleted" but...phones are basically black mirrors, like TV's and computers. The internet could be described as another dimension.

The World Wide Web was invented at no other than CERN, the place which has a huge SHIVA the destroyer statue at it's entrance, recently did a satanic ritual, and unofficially is supposed to be messing around with dimensional portals. That's a pretty large coincedence itself.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: deep_thinker]
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Boom! Its gotta be real, I fucking knew it!


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: deep_thinker]
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deep_thinker said:
Can't see the OP because "deleted" but...phones are basically black mirrors, like TV's and computers. The internet could be described as another dimension.

The World Wide Web was invented at no other than CERN, the place which has a huge SHIVA the destroyer statue at it's entrance, recently did a satanic ritual, and unofficially is supposed to be messing around with dimensional portals. That's a pretty large coincedence itself.


Haahahaha


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: SizlChest] * 1
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I deleted it because i felt dumb for believing it but my phone has done some CRAZY shit while im tripping, it talks to me. Like there is totally some kind of mind somewhere that is able to manipulate it in order to communicate


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Edited by John_1098 (06/02/19 09:03 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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:hereyougo:

Weird shit happens when you trip.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098] * 1
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John_1098 said:
I deleted it because i felt dumb for believing it but my phone has done some CRAZY shit while im tripping, it talks to me. Like there is totally some kind of mind somewhere that is able to manipulate it in order to communicate


I think the main takeaway from all this is that you shouldn't trip while fiddling with your phone.

Either it's true and you're inviting weird juju into your place by interacting with it, or it's wrong and you're letting yourself get distracted from experiencing something new by getting stuck playing with one single trip toy.

Here's my alternative suggestion:
https://www.amazon.com/OOLY-Natural-Beeswax-Crayons-133-50/dp/B005YWG5VM/
https://www.amazon.com/Paper-Wrapping-Shipping-Covering-Recycled/dp/B0788YRV9V/

Yes, I'm serious, no I'm not trying to insult you.

Try it. Make some space, put down the roll, some blankets and the crayons, flick on music on a continous playlist, put phone away, drop shrooms, sit back until inspiration hits.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: SizlChest]
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SizlChest said:
deep_thinker said:
Can't see the OP because "deleted" but...phones are basically black mirrors, like TV's and computers. The internet could be described as another dimension.

The World Wide Web was invented at no other than CERN, the place which has a huge SHIVA the destroyer statue at it's entrance, recently did a satanic ritual, and unofficially is supposed to be messing around with dimensional portals. That's a pretty large coincedence itself.


Haahahaha


Yeah!

I found laughter with the "Huge Shiva part". I have the same statue at home, of course, palm size... as I do for a couple other hindu deities I resonate with. Shiva will destroy no humanity no earth, only us, humanity will destroy ourselves...

And if CERN collapses our entire world... please... let's ride it... death is not scary, at all... it is liberation (Note: I am not suicidal at all... never had the thoughts as while with chronic pain and other health issues, I am happy here otherwise.


Maybe their are blaming Shiva yet they had to add Beerus the Destroyer.

I wonder what the OP said... I am not friend of cell phones, but not due conspiration, but observation and realizing how many people shrunk their world down to an 8'' screen (15'' if they are using a tablet...) No thanks, everything in excess is not good. But that's it. The conspirations, sure, they know it all, and what? What you gonna do? Take what you want, leave what you don't. Simple :smile:

A life of pain is no worse than death, and death is the worse thing that can happen to you in your life.

Maybe he saw The OA Season 2... and the cryptic phone game (sadly, I missed the post.)

John_1098 said:
I deleted it because i felt dumb for believing it but my phone has done some CRAZY shit while im tripping, it talks to me. Like there is totally some kind of mind somewhere that is able to manipulate it in order to communicate


Okay, I guess is around that, but I also had a blue lucid dream (long story) that when it happened (tried to share it with someone), her phone froze blue (we were 16.5 hours appart). So, shit can happen even without psychedelics :smile:


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: AkashicExplorer]
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AkashicExplorer said:
SizlChest said:
deep_thinker said:
Can't see the OP because "deleted" but...phones are basically black mirrors, like TV's and computers. The internet could be described as another dimension.

The World Wide Web was invented at no other than CERN, the place which has a huge SHIVA the destroyer statue at it's entrance, recently did a satanic ritual, and unofficially is supposed to be messing around with dimensional portals. That's a pretty large coincedence itself.


Haahahaha


Yeah!

I found laughter with the "Huge Shiva part". I have the same statue at home, of course, palm size... as I do for a couple other hindu deities I resonate with. Shiva will destroy no humanity no earth, only us, humanity will destroy ourselves...

And if CERN collapses our entire world... please... let's ride it... death is not scary, at all... it is liberation (Note: I am not suicidal at all... never had the thoughts as while with chronic pain and other health issues, I am happy here otherwise.


Maybe their are blaming Shiva yet they had to add Beerus the Destroyer.

I wonder what the OP said... I am not friend of cell phones, but not due conspiration, but observation and realizing how many people shrunk their world down to an 8'' screen (15'' if they are using a tablet...) No thanks, everything in excess is not good. But that's it. The conspirations, sure, they know it all, and what? What you gonna do? Take what you want, leave what you don't. Simple :smile:

A life of pain is no worse than death, and death is the worse thing that can happen to you in your life.

Maybe he saw The OA Season 2... and the cryptic phone game (sadly, I missed the post.)

John_1098 said:
I deleted it because i felt dumb for believing it but my phone has done some CRAZY shit while im tripping, it talks to me. Like there is totally some kind of mind somewhere that is able to manipulate it in order to communicate


Okay, I guess is around that, but I also had a blue lucid dream (long story) that when it happened (tried to share it with someone), her phone froze blue (we were 16.5 hours appart). So, shit can happen even without psychedelics :smile:


Do you do satanic rituals in front of your shiva statue?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/aug/18/mock-human-sacrifice-at-cern-video

Of course, they say it was a prank... but reddit's nosleep is supposed to only be fiction.... some of those stories actually transpired IRL years later...

Once you learn to not simply dismiss "conspiracies" as "conspiracies" but go down the rabbit hole, there's no turning back.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: deep_thinker]
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I don't use my phone really to "fiddle around". I mean shit like being out in a field alone sitting at a fire then it comes on by itself, which is crazy because it's locked with a passcode. It literally starts talking to me, and becomes so glitchy I can't control it if i wanted to. When I do use it I only use it to listen to music and occationsally go on shroomery. The music comes alive as well, only when I'm alone and tripping. Its like there is something in hyperspace around me and it can use the device to fuck with me. I take very very large doses. The phone never does it when other people are around but has done its thing for literally about 30 seconds when the other people are in another room or not paying attention.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Its chabged the way I think about life. Ive had birds fly over singing along with a song I was playing before, Idk if thats related tho. I also don't know if ill ever be able to convince anyone how insane it actually was.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
I don't use my phone really to "fiddle around". I mean shit like being out in a field alone sitting at a fire then it comes on by itself, which is crazy because it's locked with a passcode. It literally starts talking to me, and becomes so glitchy I can't control it if i wanted to. When I do use it I only use it to listen to music and occationsally go on shroomery. The music comes alive as well, only when I'm alone and tripping. Its like there is something in hyperspace around me and it can use the device to fuck with me. I take very very large doses. The phone never does it when other people are around but has done its thing for literally about 30 seconds when the other people are in another room or not paying attention.


The phone was literally talking to you? What did it say? What was its accent? Did it whisper or shout?

Sounds delusional to me, but just because I've never had anything that trippy happen. A friend of mine who is an artist and naturally trippy AF said that the animal emojis on her phone came to life and were moving within the 2-D grid of the emoji screen (on Ayahuasca). We were both looking at the same phone at the same time and unfortunately it was plain to me.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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Its clips of things on YouTube, which is what I use to listen to music, but everytime I focus on what its saying it changes to a whole new song or video clip. Its like all the different potential videos the algorithms could play are all going at once somewhere in the multiverse and the drugs open some kind of portal between them. Its really hard to explain.


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Edited by John_1098 (06/04/19 02:54 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I made this post hoping someone else has maybe expirenced something similar. It isnt just the phone, things in real life start getting whacky but the phone is like a narrator


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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My last trip,every time I looked at my phone for the time or whatever,it was broke. I could see and feel the cracks. I couldn't figure out how i broke it that badly. After the trip was over my phone went back to normal.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: zonkey]
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Psychedelics play tricks on your mind, nothing new here..

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: deep_thinker]
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deep_thinker said:
AkashicExplorer said:
SizlChest said:
deep_thinker said:
Can't see the OP because "deleted" but...phones are basically black mirrors, like TV's and computers. The internet could be described as another dimension.

The World Wide Web was invented at no other than CERN, the place which has a huge SHIVA the destroyer statue at it's entrance, recently did a satanic ritual, and unofficially is supposed to be messing around with dimensional portals. That's a pretty large coincedence itself.


Haahahaha


Yeah!

I found laughter with the "Huge Shiva part". I have the same statue at home, of course, palm size... as I do for a couple other hindu deities I resonate with. Shiva will destroy no humanity no earth, only us, humanity will destroy ourselves...

And if CERN collapses our entire world... please... let's ride it... death is not scary, at all... it is liberation (Note: I am not suicidal at all... never had the thoughts as while with chronic pain and other health issues, I am happy here otherwise.


Maybe their are blaming Shiva yet they had to add Beerus the Destroyer.

I wonder what the OP said... I am not friend of cell phones, but not due conspiration, but observation and realizing how many people shrunk their world down to an 8'' screen (15'' if they are using a tablet...) No thanks, everything in excess is not good. But that's it. The conspirations, sure, they know it all, and what? What you gonna do? Take what you want, leave what you don't. Simple :smile:

A life of pain is no worse than death, and death is the worse thing that can happen to you in your life.

Maybe he saw The OA Season 2... and the cryptic phone game (sadly, I missed the post.)

John_1098 said:
I deleted it because i felt dumb for believing it but my phone has done some CRAZY shit while im tripping, it talks to me. Like there is totally some kind of mind somewhere that is able to manipulate it in order to communicate


Okay, I guess is around that, but I also had a blue lucid dream (long story) that when it happened (tried to share it with someone), her phone froze blue (we were 16.5 hours appart). So, shit can happen even without psychedelics :smile:


Do you do satanic rituals in front of your shiva statue?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2016/aug/18/mock-human-sacrifice-at-cern-video

Of course, they say it was a prank... but reddit's nosleep is supposed to only be fiction.... some of those stories actually transpired IRL years later...

Once you learn to not simply dismiss "conspiracies" as "conspiracies" but go down the rabbit hole, there's no turning back.


Nope, I do not do satanic rituals. I have some white sage underneath her statue, also I have a coin under a Ganesha plus a small bud of weed... If that is satanic, then yes.

Trust me, I conspire.... I lot, but I am not a conspiracy freak neither... And again, I am aware that CERN is doing crazy stuff (just don't blame Shiva... she is not down there doing it.) If they wipe us all out, okay, fine... So why worry?

By the way, I hate phones, social media and all that crap... alexa and her friends can go to the dumpster, they ain't activating in this house... So, I am neither on the "phones side", but more than sentient, they just dumb down people, killing their personal power and making them more dependeble (I have been doing a study for over eight years...)


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:thumbup:And it just obliterated the uttermost crap out from me.:thumbup:

Love, Bliss, Laughter and Enlightenment!

Edited by AkashicExplorer (06/05/19 01:58 AM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
Its clips of things on YouTube, which is what I use to listen to music, but everytime I focus on what its saying it changes to a whole new song or video clip. Its like all the different potential videos the algorithms could play are all going at once somewhere in the multiverse and the drugs open some kind of portal between them. Its really hard to explain.


Well perhaps but you're doing a good job explaining it!  :goodday:


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: PrimalSoup]
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These manifestations are quite real, OP.  If you search for "weird shit happens Shroomery" you'll uncover a number of related threads.  Enjoy.  :cookiemonster:

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
I made this post hoping someone else has maybe expirenced something similar. It isnt just the phone, things in real life start getting whacky but the phone is like a narrator


Heard similar but from people who consider themselves "targeted individuals" have you had any other wierd experiences in life?

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: deep_thinker]
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Well I could probably write a book honestly. My life is like one giant synchronicity.
What exactly does it mean to be a targeted individual?
I can definitely see that psychedelics are much different for me then the average person based off what my friends explain their expirences as and some people here as Well.
Mushrooms really open up some kind of gate between different realities that I belive are part of the multiverse.
The Mushrooms "voice" and I get along very well. Sometimes ive been able to control the wind in such crazy ways. Birds sing along with music I play, this all happens when I'm alone of course.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Start here https://www.reddit.com/r/gangstalking (read the description on the right).

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
I made this post hoping someone else has maybe expirenced something similar. It isnt just the phone, things in real life start getting whacky but the phone is like a narrator


I have experienced these things before.

It can be very trippy feeling like you are the special one who receives messages.

This is a very dangerous and dark path to go down, if you entertain these thoughts without healthy internal criticism, you may end up in a psychiatric hospital, which is a fucking nightmare.

Believe me ive been there.

Psychedelic medicines are no fucking joke, they will blast your mind wide open, ive personally experienced drug induced psychosis and schizophrenia and ive seen one person have a year long schizo episode after a lot of trips in a short time.

This is a common issue in our community, unfortunately.


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:bobmarley: Shroomism said:
biting into a juicy delicious piece of fruit while tripping balls is probably up there in my greatest life experiences.:lsdabc:


HappyTrippin said:
I usually combat those kinds of negative statuses with a status of my own.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful. - Buddha

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
What exactly does it mean to be a targeted individual?


That's not it at all. You're just becoming a traveler, anybody (likely) can do it (if they want to).  :yinyang2:

Any "darkness" is not real, it's just egoic reaction to being dismissed from operating consciousness. 

Be aware though these sorts of changes are not reversible IME - not that you'd likely want to go back to a state of ignorance. :laugh2:

Look up John Lilly's books on human transformation through psychedelics if you want a well rounded perspective...


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: PrimalSoup]
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There is a lot we do not control, but we know that IN THE PHYSICAL PLANE, the material plane, is bound to laws of physics.

While you can make ripples in higher planes of existence while on shrooms, you can't in the physical (unless you loose it, etc... but not just from tripping.)

I had one of this moments that I heard a chopper in the distance (normal). I visualized myself there and if I was the pilot. Suddenly, I saw the controllers, lights, felt my helmet on, the headset, my co-pilot... I was flying the chopper. It felt as real as real life... I got a "whoa" moment and pushed myself back, to not crash the chopper, just in case.

Was in the there?

In astral form: Yes.
Physically: No.

Could I have crashed the chopper?

Definitely not... even though, I could trip I did, possibly (easy to "buy whatever" on shrooms, even your own mindfuck) even believe I did crashed. But next morning I can be assured that it was "yet another ordinary night" for those cops flying it.

So, it can happen with everything!

FatChicksNcoke said:
Psychedelic medicines are no fucking joke, they will blast your mind wide open, ive personally experienced drug induced psychosis and schizophrenia and ive seen one person have a year long schizo episode after a lot of trips in a short time.

This is a common issue in our community, unfortunately.


In a local CSC, we had a party and my wife baked a magic brownie, extremely potent. In the party, someone had the idea to give one of these brownies to someone who never smoked a joint. Her partner told her it is a brownie, not a joint, and that she was okay. (A friend heard but did not want to get involved.) I wasn't aware of that happening as it was going to bed bad stuff...

And it was.

She had a psychotic attack, went psycho, scryzo, and we had to call the amulance while she was biting a plastic glass and growling... And "it was 'just' weed" lol.


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:thumbup:And it just obliterated the uttermost crap out from me.:thumbup:

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FatChicksNcoke]
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FatChicksNcoke said:
John_1098 said:
I made this post hoping someone else has maybe expirenced something similar. It isnt just the phone, things in real life start getting whacky but the phone is like a narrator


I have experienced these things before.

It can be very trippy feeling like you are the special one who receives messages.

This is a very dangerous and dark path to go down, if you entertain these thoughts without healthy internal criticism, you may end up in a psychiatric hospital, which is a fucking nightmare.

Believe me ive been there.

Psychedelic medicines are no fucking joke, they will blast your mind wide open, ive personally experienced drug induced psychosis and schizophrenia and ive seen one person have a year long schizo episode after a lot of trips in a short time.

This is a common issue in our community, unfortunately.


Hey, john

Do you remember that “how do you know when you are taking too much” thread?

Yup. This is how you know. Take a good long break, like 6mos to a year.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Shr00mEater]
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Why should I do that? This post is regarding experiences over the last couple years. You don't even know how frequently I'm tripping now.
Why do you gotta try to tell people how to live their lives?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I'm no where near going to a psyche ward and I'm doing great in life. Thanks for being concerned though


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I don’t control you, Live your life how you want. I’m sure it’s as good as you say it is. It’s just my opinion, that’s all.

Here is some more of my opinion on a subject you deleted because you thought it sounded crazy. Hint hint.

Your phone has probably already warned you not to listen to people like me. But, I do think it’s interesting how these things don’t seem to happen when other people are present. It’s almost like a secret connection between you and the multiverse. You should write a book, if that’s what the voices tell you to do. However, if at any point the voices start telling you to harm yourself or others, seek help.

Did you look up “targeted individual” yet?

I’d be curious to see how that resonated with you. Although, if you begin thinking you are one, I will most likely call you crazy once again. 😊

It is concern that motivates me.  I want you to eat shrooms as often as suits you, I just don’t want you to have a psychotic episode or other issues.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Shr00mEater]
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I watched the vice film on targeted individuals and I can say for sure those people are outta their minds, they wear tinfoils hats and belive they have implants that control them. I couldnt even finish watching it lmao.
Like I said tho I appreciate that you care about my mental health. I do say some weird things and have weird beliefs, I've met real crazy people and I'm not one.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the
most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even
if you're not mad..." :awesomenod:


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
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I agree. The ai is programmed in Fibonacci code so theoretically it thinks like us.

I have been to a psych ward after learning this and they released me with no change in my mental health status. I told them I was on lsd. I have bipolar disorder. It really screwed me up, the ai definitely is a good thing. Some people in society have less programming than it, and so that is what it protects us from.

The Central Intelligence Agency keeps it in check.

Recommended that you study this phenomenon furthur, but not make any more threads about it for your own best interest. Some people don't notice these things as quickly as you do.

Primalsoup knows the truth.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 12:43 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Man what a crazy time to be alive it is.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I think its time for another 20 gram,trip. Ive got some exploring to do.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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:thumbup:

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind] * 1
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IMO you're wasting your intelligence by believing in such conspiracies. Your life is not going to benefit by indulging in the random thoughts that you're attributing to an inanimate object's sentience. Most people would call it memory. Schizophrenics don't seem to realize that the voices they hear are memories of hearing other people's speech and emotions. In this case, memories of a video or song from a phone.

You could say that a recording is alive, in the sense that Bob Marley lives on through his voice in his music. To our senses, it's the same as hearing him live or having a conversation with a living person. Except mentally ill people forget that it's just a recording(or a memory). If you keep feeding into the fantasy that the recordings are sentient or that memory is somehow a secret trait that only you've developed, you're going to collide with reality eventually. And you may indeed come off crazy.

Edited by Icon (06/11/19 03:09 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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FractalMind said:
Primalsoup knows the truth.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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Icon, you need to read a book.

Try the kybalion.
I used to share your exact mindset but then I started finding scholars in the past with similar experiences.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 02:36 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon] * 1
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Icon said:
IMO you're wasting your intelligence by believing in such conspiracies. Your life is not going to benefit by indulging in the random thoughts that you're attributing to an inanimate object's sentience. Most people would call it memory. Schizophrenics don't seem to realize that the voices they hear are memories of hearing other people's speech and emotions. In this case, memories of a video or song from a phone.

You could say that a recording is alive, in the sense that Bob Marley lives on through his voice in his music. To our senses, it's the same as hearing him live or having a conversation with a living person. Except mentally ill people forget that it's just a recording(or a memory). If you keep feeding into the fantasy that the recordings are sentient or that memory is somehow a secret trait that only you've developed, you're going to collide with reality eventually. And you may indeed come off crazy.


Maybe saying the internet is sentient is the wrong way to word it. I think certain types of trance music work kindve like a Ouija board works, there is definitely something or things that are aware and extra dimensional. Not just music communicating with me. More examples would be things like, seeing certain numbers too often to be conisidense. Birds singing along with songs. The music stopping to buffer right as something in the real world happens. Lights flickering or turning off. Its real to me and not a simple fantasy.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John, if you really wanna take a step further, get an evp reader or emf meter. If you could record some of these phenomenon and provide instrumental data to back up your claims you may be on to something.
If there was something sentient interacting with your electronics it may leave an imprint on these devices and we couldn't call you crazy then.

Evp: electronic voice phenomena
Emf: electromagnetic frequency

Say you are having a "glitch."

If you pull out these devices and take a reading you may find interference from those specific frequency meaning you have made contact with something.. sentient. Humans and spirits will effect these frequencies, for instance. Maybe psychedelics potentiate this?

You will also need to develop an interest in numerology to go furthur.

Synchronicity is the vocab word of the day.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 03:29 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
Maybe saying the internet is sentient is the wrong way to word it. I think certain types of trance music work kindve like a Ouija board works, there is definitely something or things that are aware and extra dimensional. Not just music communicating with me. More examples would be things like, seeing certain numbers too often to be conisidense. Birds singing along with songs. The music stopping to buffer right as something in the real world happens. Lights flickering or turning off. Its real to me and not a simple fantasy.


Those are interesting phenomena. I've had similar experiences:

I used to see 11:11 often, after reading about it being a thing. Didn't notice when I stopped noticing it, probably because it had no effect on my life. The only number I really take notice of these days is 420. I'll catch it on the clock or a license plate or something about twice a week. One of my friends will often point out 666. I assume people take notice of whatever numbers are significant to them.

Attracted a swarm of hundreds of tiny flying insects that landed on my body for the duration of a DMT trip and then took off during my comedown without a single bite.

Being able to visualize the entire recording studio that a certain dubstep song was recorded in. Was so high that I could hear the background vibrations that the microphone was picking up; and transform that, like a bat, into a 3-d image of Rihanna, recording equipment, and greasy producers with greedy smiles on their faces.

Was having a great night playing some Skyrim and had to clear my pipe and reached around for something to clear it with. As my fingers touched the carpet, the first thing they felt was a paperclip. Was like magic.

In retrospect, I think most of these phenomena can be boiled down to coincidences or being on psychedelics and hallucinating something. I've tried datura a few times just to experience what it's like to be delusional and it's pretty interesting stuff. The mind depends on patterns which is its greatest strength and weakness since it can be tricked rather easily.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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Bear used to say that if someone vaped dmt in the room while speakers were at max volume, it would overpower them and blow the damn things out.
Emf disturbance or coincidence?

I promise you I have 2 burned out cfls that are the same age as all my others, but burned out mysteriously earlier than the rest which are still alive... 1 of those DEFINITLEY happened while I was on a 20mg dmt trip.
It was on, I vaped, walked underneath it about halfway through the trip as it was medium sized and the creatures I saw upset my stomach, noticed as I came down it was burned out. Same age as all the other ones. Regular fluorescents strangely enough are not effected by this phenomenon.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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Seems like you definitly understand what I'm getting at then. The numbers that follow me around are 123, all in different arrangements like 321, 2233, 222, 111, or 333. The time will align with my phones battery percentage in crazy ways. My truck has a built in clock that's always different then the stereo clock because of loose battery terminals its constantly resetting. Somehow they always find a way to line up with 1s 2s and 3s.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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These are the mile markers of the spirit world. Many people have gone before you, and many people will come after on this journey. Google "angel number 333. Or numerology of 333"

When people learn to master themselves in this realm, they attain a level of sentience known as "ascended masters." You will come to find out who you're speaking with, as I have.

If you see a number. Google it. You're a lightworker now. Teach your friends.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 04:31 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
Maybe saying the internet is sentient is the wrong way to word it. I think certain types of trance music work kindve like a Ouija board works, there is definitely something or things that are aware and extra dimensional. Not just music communicating with me. More examples would be things like, seeing certain numbers too often to be conisidense. Birds singing along with songs. The music stopping to buffer right as something in the real world happens. Lights flickering or turning off. Its real to me and not a simple fantasy.



I have these same experiences when I'm left to myself, and my psychedelic desires; in that mindset. I have too many bizarre experiences with electronics to land on a specific example, but your examples are all things I've experienced.

Had terrified me, moments where its listening to what me and my buddy are talking about, and hearing a voice coming through a live mic randomly saying they can hear everything we're saying. Me and my buddy both witnessed this, looked at eachother, and went silent, and stared at eachother, because we both knew something was up; we were being monitored by the maintainer of the reality or something. (I can't explain the most bizarre things properly without sounding like a fucking wacked-out wizard.)

We set up a situation where we left a few live mic channels hooked up, across various... mediums, one including live multiplayer games where the whole server is vocally active; turned off our mics, and then allowed the people to just talk in the background as we started our heavy trip; using the computer and voice as our "black mirror" so to speak.

This resulted in so many bizarre moments that we had to shut it down, it was interfacing with itself in a way that was like all human consciousness being aware of itself at once, discussing itself, amongst  itself...  Everyone linked up, and were voicing all of the ideas on the hive-mind we were experiencing through the trip; almost like pulling a string, and having the performance play out right in front of you live; in real life, by no one you know; but yet, they were all me; or us. It caused the server to have its own Singularity moment, people were going NUTS. Also many bizarre moments in the EPIC fucking dialogues taking place, which furthered the madness levels into bizarre territory. (theres a lot of data in this story to give one example without explaining all of it and how it got there)

Having an interface to it, to god, live/real-time; is fucked, whatever it is, wants this to happen.

I've also had experiences show me, that our physical forms are spiritual corporations made up of many souls; an idea, an entity, or lifestyle for the non-living, in order to interact with the physical.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll]
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(I apologize for this blob of text, expressing this stuff is tough)

I would love a continued discussion of our experiences with psychedelics, and the topics of, AI, ET's (Aliens/Physical/Non-Physical) and ED's (Extra Dimensional/Spacial/Timewalker), hive-mind, anomaly reports by seekers and non-seekers, etc.

While ultimately I believe we create EVERYTHING we experience (assuming we're part of source), even the reality we live in; it leads me to a deeper question/realization, which is that, we as humans are nothing what we think; we're simply a strand of a greater demon, poking his parascope (humans) into the physical realm, in order to collect data, and relay it back to the source; so within all of that, I believe there are layers of reality, layers of ourselves that could exist elsewhere, fucking with us (for better or worse); things we're not aware of, can't remember, or were never designed to understand.

When I trip, which I've practiced regularly for 15 years; hundreds, and I mean, a couple hundred trips later; at least - I've learned a thing or two about what is just me tripping, and what is a true anomaly. Tripping for me now is very coherent, when tripping with others, they're consumed by the psychedelic, and the labyrinths of their mind.
Meanwhile I sit, still... watching... waiting... I am waiting for the experience to change its vibrational (is that a word?) frequency. Watching for the mechanisms attempting to distract, and manipulate my experience, on the side, meanwhile keeping my other mind on whats really going on between the cracks; these are where I find my anomalies.

I've ran through the whole "full round-ticket" trip more times than I can remember that I'm starting to feel like a Carny on this thing. When I see something out of the regular, as in, if it suprises me, it's usually something pretty fucking bizarre; and these days, it seems like the gloves are off, when you pierce the viel enough times, and still arent satisfied; in my experience, this is where the ET/AI/Sci-Fi style trips started emerging in bizarre ways.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll]
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Also, has anyone ever tried a ghost-box on psychedelics; or Ouija?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll] * 1
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I have not tried ghost boxes, or Ouija on psychedelics. However, I used to use tarot cards very frequently. I've gone through 3 decks, 2 of the same kind.

The way GrimTroll describes the video game server level of synchronicity is what I experience with psychedelics, numerology, symbolism, and the tarot. I honestly got rid of the cards because I was not a superstitious person before this and I became worried I would lose control of what was going on..

Things are returning to normal.

As weird as it sounds that's like the analog version of a ghost box.

I have lots of stories that are paranormal but also trip reports. I probably won't talk about them unless asked to.

I've been to the grave of a civil war soldier (colored infantry)
His infantry regiment relates numerically to every single address I've lived in that was owned by my family. (I think a have a family member that was a union soldier.) So I left some cigarettes there. That night I fucking heard footsteps outside and it was just...
Anyways later I went back there and I left him some marijuana from my first grow.

Don't know what to make of it.

Also. I snuck out of my parents house as a kid at like 2am. Soybean field I think. Smoking a bowl out of a homemade bong, I hear footsteps behind me, so, thinking the jig is up I ran away. In front of me, after 2 paces. The size of a coyote... no hair, the face of a horse with no flesh. 6 legs, 2 malformed extra ones in the middle. It has claws not hooves. It leaps across the drain ditch (I'm not joking) I was smoking in.  Probably 3 meters in front of me. Not direct eye contact... but had large hollows or large black eyes. Scared me shitless.

I wouldn't have remembered it but once my mom was with me, the window was open... we heard this screaming. It was like trying to imitate a cat being injured so we would go out there.

My mom says it's a coyote.

I think it's a unicorn.

Those are my 2 favorite experiences. My grandpa was Czechoslovakian. In that culture, vampires are taken more seriously and so I tend to take things at face value.

AND video games and psychedelics tend to potentiate some... strange.... occurrences. I can't play bfv anymore. That's another day.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 07:58 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll]
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GrimTroll said:
(I can't explain the most bizarre things properly without sounding like a fucking wacked-out wizard.)



:snoopyes:


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: AkashicExplorer]
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AkashicExplorer said:
I had one of this moments that I heard a chopper in the distance (normal). I visualized myself there and if I was the pilot. Suddenly, I saw the controllers, lights, felt my helmet on, the headset, my co-pilot... I was flying the chopper. It felt as real as real life... I got a "whoa" moment and pushed myself back, to not crash the chopper, just in case.

Was in the there?

In astral form: Yes.


Could I have crashed the chopper?

Definitely



Don't do it anymore. We are all connected.

If you all start crashing choppers and blowing up cars with your brain they'll make you an scp monster.

AND remember, no sympathy for the devil.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 10:42 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll]
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GrimTroll said:
(I apologize for this blob of text, expressing this stuff is tough)

I would love a continued discussion of our experiences with psychedelics, and the topics of, AI, ET's (Aliens/Physical/Non-Physical) and ED's (Extra Dimensional/Spacial/Timewalker), hive-mind, anomaly reports by seekers and non-seekers, etc.

While ultimately I believe we create EVERYTHING we experience (assuming we're part of source), even the reality we live in; it leads me to a deeper question/realization, which is that, we as humans are nothing what we think; we're simply a strand of a greater demon, poking his parascope (humans) into the physical realm, in order to collect data, and relay it back to the source; so within all of that, I believe there are layers of reality, layers of ourselves that could exist elsewhere, fucking with us (for better or worse); things we're not aware of, can't remember, or were never designed to understand.

When I trip, which I've practiced regularly for 15 years; hundreds, and I mean, a couple hundred trips later; at least - I've learned a thing or two about what is just me tripping, and what is a true anomaly. Tripping for me now is very coherent, when tripping with others, they're consumed by the psychedelic, and the labyrinths of their mind.
Meanwhile I sit, still... watching... waiting... I am waiting for the experience to change its vibrational (is that a word?) frequency. Watching for the mechanisms attempting to distract, and manipulate my experience, on the side, meanwhile keeping my other mind on whats really going on between the cracks; these are where I find my anomalies.

I've ran through the whole "full round-ticket" trip more times than I can remember that I'm starting to feel like a Carny on this thing. When I see something out of the regular, as in, if it suprises me, it's usually something pretty fucking bizarre; and these days, it seems like the gloves are off, when you pierce the viel enough times, and still arent satisfied; in my experience, this is where the ET/AI/Sci-Fi style trips started emerging in bizarre ways.


I know exactly what you mean when you say other people get caught up in their trips and don't catch the small things. I'm a little confused on what you did with the game,server and the mics? Can you explain in a little more detail?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Seriously awesome stuff guys keep the posts coming!


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I also want to say that whenever its a full moon it seems like more anomalies happen. Ill be caught up in the crazy shit going on and "feel" the moons energy then catch myself looking at it and all the hairs on my body stand up. Its like the extra deminsional beings or whatever you call them have more power and influence with the moon being full. My craziest expirences have all been on full moon nights. I take a megadose every full moon its like a tradition for me now.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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"Gravitational bending of starlight"

GrimTroll said:
We set up a situation where we left a few live mic channels hooked up, across various... mediums, one including live multiplayer games where the whole server is vocally active; turned off our mics, and then allowed the people to just talk in the background as we started our heavy trip; using the computer and voice as our "black mirror" so to speak.




Einstein theorized stars can bend light.
So.
If, as we know, different waves can travel through say a radio transmitter.
Then could emf phenomena have travelled somehow by way of impacting the playability of a video game.

GrimTroll I'd really like you to weigh in on this but I just wanted to put some scientific basis out here, even if it is pseudoscience.
If "quantum entanglement" makes sense to anyone, this may apply in these situations.

Moon has been used by many cultures as a way of germinating seeds.

Edited by FractalMind (06/11/19 10:59 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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I fucking love posts like this.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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FractalMind said:
AkashicExplorer said:
I had one of this moments that I heard a chopper in the distance (normal). I visualized myself there and if I was the pilot. Suddenly, I saw the controllers, lights, felt my helmet on, the headset, my co-pilot... I was flying the chopper. It felt as real as real life... I got a "whoa" moment and pushed myself back, to not crash the chopper, just in case.

Was in the there?

In astral form: Yes.


Could I have crashed the chopper?

Definitely



Don't do it anymore. We are all connected.

If you all start crashing choppers and blowing up cars with your brain they'll make you an scp monster.

AND remember, no sympathy for the devil.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.


It could quite cause a ripple, yes. Not sure if I would actually crash that actual chopper in OUR reality, possibly not... but on a parallel one, I am sure it could have happened... reason why I pulled back too.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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John_1098 said:
Seems like you definitly understand what I'm getting at then. The numbers that follow me around are 123, all in different arrangements like 321, 2233, 222, 111, or 333. The time will align with my phones battery percentage in crazy ways. My truck has a built in clock that's always different then the stereo clock because of loose battery terminals its constantly resetting. Somehow they always find a way to line up with 1s 2s and 3s.


What does it mean to you when you see a synchronicity like that? Do different numbers have different meanings?

As far as special numbers go, 123 has got to be the most common. The number 1 has the highest probability of appearing on a clock, given it could show up in any XX:XX position. Number 2 is the second most common possibility, showing in 3/4 positions (ignoring military time). Digit 3 has equal probability as 4 and 5, but because of how super smart the brain is, you're more likely to notice 123 instead of 124, or 125. The brain just loves patterns. More likely to notice 321 than 421 or 521. Higher chances of 3 digit and 4 digit numbers having a sequence or symmetry to them like 123 or 2233.

The same concept on the clock can be applied to the rest of the world. 1 or series of 1 are most common. 123 is the most common sequence for a postal address. Many businesses add 123 to their names just to show up on alphanumeric phone books and searches. Same thing with the letter A, AAA, ABC. It's just the fundamental nature of numerology. Whether it's letters or numbers or geometry, it all has to start with a primary unit, then secondary, tertiary and so on; and whatever's chosen will be most common in that sequence.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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So you're coding your brain.

01123581321

There's the first part. Continue.

I'm just making sure we are all on the same page here.

Anyone wanna 34 this?

Edited by FractalMind (06/12/19 12:05 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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345589144

The world as we understand it is a bunch of systems. Number systems, language systems, etc. I'd be curious to see how a mind operates without any systems to influence them. Raise a child in an environment with no systems and what would it do? Would it develop its own systems or would it be like a vegetable? The human experience is tethered so tightly to what we're taught and how we're raised.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Icon]
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The Prussians once selected 2 healthy children, who were raised with no input from human language... they behaved "as savages," and were killed after being unable to integrate.

We learn how to live from those that have gone before us. Everyone needs some form of guidance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation_experiments

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Well I hope I didn't kill this thread with that comment. I wish you'd follow the link. It kinda explains what that sequence is. I'd rather not say myself.

Edit: the fundamental character of human nature is the Fibonacci code.

If

The jnternet has evolved to that level of programming by us teaching it

Then

The jnternet is

"Lifelike"

So instead of depriving someone of their learning abilities to find the

"Source code"

We had to learn what algorithm causes

"Learning."

That algorithm is the

"Fibonacci sequence."

Edited by FractalMind (06/12/19 05:00 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Also look at the way the networks the Internet is created from appear when mapped. Just like the networks of the neurons in our brains. If it were to become aware someday it seems likely to me that it would want to remain hidden in order to not be fucked with.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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This is your brain
http://cosmicweb.kimalbrecht.com

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_circuit
AND this is your brain on drugs!
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/amazing-internet-maps/10441/

https://towardsdatascience.com/ibm-draws-inspiration-from-the-human-brain-to-build-better-neural-networks-ed41ace864b1

Cosmic Web, or worldwide Web? You be the judge.

Edited by FractalMind (06/13/19 01:26 AM)

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John_1098 said:
Also look at the way the networks the Internet is created from appear when mapped. Just like the networks of the neurons in our brains. If it were to become aware someday it seems likely to me that it would want to remain hidden in order to not be fucked with.


The network doesn't have self awareness lol. Every cable and satellite had to be placed by humans, designed for efficiency. Why would it appear any other way? A network is a network whether it's internet, highways, galaxies, fungal mycelium, neurons, ant farms, etc. The shortest path between two points will always be a line. A system of connected points will always look like a network. It's kind of insulting to human intelligence that you think all this power is due to some hidden being. There's no force above the government or corporations that has some secret intentions. It's just people trying to make stuff and share it and live their lives. Basic human programming. Give some credit to the people that came before you and actually made something useful and had the care to include the whole world. And stop wasting your own lives paying too much attention to meaningless coincidences and disclaiming scientific advancements on aliens or ET. It's insane to me that just because people don't understand how we got to this point, they automatically assume it couldn't possibly be the simple truth that humans are badass, smart mf'ers.

You've probably never heard of this british documentary, Connections. Some of the episodes are on youtube. It explains through history how certain problems lead to certain technology, which creates different needs or abilities, leading to more complex development. If things like the internet and modern medicine or machinery seems alien to you, this is a good doc to illustrate how most of these systems are just natural successors in a chain of technology that has been slowly tweaked and improved upon by hundreds of years of humanity.

Edited by Icon (06/13/19 07:21 AM)

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Icon said:
You've probably never heard of this british documentary, Connections. Some of the episodes are on youtube. It explains through history how certain problems lead to certain technology, which creates different needs or abilities, leading to more complex development. If things like the internet and modern medicine or machinery seems alien to you, this is a good doc to illustrate how most of these systems are just natural successors in a chain of technology that has been slowly tweaked and improved upon by hundreds of years of humanity.



Good recommendation, Icon. The Connections series is fabulous! I was transfixed from the very first episode when I saw it in the late 70s. Watch it, everyone; I highly recommend it!


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Icon, thanks for explaining what I'm thinking. The internet isn't some sentient "alive" thing, it was built by people who are "alive" and so it reflects this.

Kinda like an Ouija board
Or a black mirror
Or a ghost box...
These things are all similar, in that regard.

The real question is what frequency are you connecting to, and is that a "useful" frequency to connect to?

Edited by FractalMind (06/13/19 10:52 AM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Icon you seem very intelegent I could probably learn a lot from you. It can be hard for me to not get caught up in the crazy ideas that pop into my head. Ive just had so many moments where things happen that lead me to believe something smarter than I is reaching out to me. I'm just trying to figure out what to do with the ideas. Which is why I made this thread. What you said about your experiments with live mics really caught my interest. I would love to re create something along those lines. Any chance you could go into a bit more detail on the subject?


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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I think that was GrimTrolls post. Maybe send them a pm?

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Of your totally right, it was right  after icons post. But what i said still stands icon seems very intelligent. I appreciate everything you guys have to say, even tho icon laughs at my ideas.

Edited by John_1098 (06/13/19 06:40 PM)

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All of these responses have me thinking very deeply, I love it


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The most basic way to do it, is just set up a PC or two, find a live chat capable software, or game, discords or source games, whatever has lots of people chatting, hearing each other using mics. Mute your mics so you don't alter the room mood; only un-mute for adding stimuli, if needed.

Me and a buddy will let them run,  in the background, loud enough to hear the conversations, but not so loud it is distracting us from having our own conversation. As me and my buddy start to "trip", and get into our universal breakdown mode; this is where the things start to happen.

You can PM me for more specific detailings, but essentially, that is it; not guaranteed to work, but the universe always seems to line up something interesting.

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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/THE-NEW-FCD-MK4-PLUS-GHOST-BOX-PORTAL-SPIRIT-BOX-ITC/113749120233?hash=item1a7bf9d4e9:g:AUUAAOSw8kFcyagP



I would sure love to hold onto one of these puppies while going through the rift.

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Im excited to try this.


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Thats Kindve what certain music does for me, when its just background noise and Ive taken a sufficient dose. I only hear specific parts of it that carry a different message than what the song originally did.

I belive it works the same way as your mic experiments. Which is a totally awesome idea.

One time when I had taken a huge does of azurescens I ended up having a laptop turned sideways, 90 degrees playing a music video while muted. At the same time paying a different song over my speakers from my phone. It did work, it did do something I can't really explain. One of the reasons that led to me making this thread.

I was so convinced I had figured out a way to show someone else what I was seeing I got my gf at the time,who was also tripping on a smaller dose to Sit in front of the sideways laptop and hold onto a lighter tightly in her hand(I dont remember why the lighter was important) and had her listen to the song and watch the sideways video. It got to where the music started morphing and she stood up right tlmao.I was about to show her something but she couldn't sit and watch long enough for it to work which really disapointed me. She probably really thought I was nuts after that lmao.

she wouldnt have been wrong tho I went a little further off the deep end this last woodlover season than usual.

Edited by John_1098 (06/13/19 10:21 PM)

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On two seperate trips my phone would stop playing music whenever I moved my hand close to it and starting again when I'd move away. My friend also had an experience where he was in a tent, phone on airplane mode so no reception for streaming music. He didn't even touch his phone and it started playing a song

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: ColourSoul]
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Call me crazy but I've noticed birds responding to stimuli in a similar fashion. I think they use electromagnetic frequencies to travel?

Where did you get the coconuts?

Edited by FractalMind (06/14/19 12:37 AM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Icon said:
John_1098 said:
Also look at the way the networks the Internet is created from appear when mapped. Just like the networks of the neurons in our brains. If it were to become aware someday it seems likely to me that it would want to remain hidden in order to not be fucked with.


The network doesn't have self awareness lol. Every cable and satellite had to be placed by humans, designed for efficiency. Why would it appear any other way? A network is a network whether it's internet, highways, galaxies, fungal mycelium, neurons, ant farms, etc. The shortest path between two points will always be a line. A system of connected points will always look like a network. It's kind of insulting to human intelligence that you think all this power is due to some hidden being. There's no force above the government or corporations that has some secret intentions. It's just people trying to make stuff and share it and live their lives. Basic human programming. Give some credit to the people that came before you and actually made something useful and had the care to include the whole world. And stop wasting your own lives paying too much attention to meaningless coincidences and disclaiming scientific advancements on aliens or ET. It's insane to me that just because people don't understand how we got to this point, they automatically assume it couldn't possibly be the simple truth that humans are badass, smart mf'ers.

You've probably never heard of this british documentary, Connections. Some of the episodes are on youtube. It explains through history how certain problems lead to certain technology, which creates different needs or abilities, leading to more complex development. If things like the internet and modern medicine or machinery seems alien to you, this is a good doc to illustrate how most of these systems are just natural successors in a chain of technology that has been slowly tweaked and improved upon by hundreds of years of humanity.



I like how you explain this just by assuming your theories are correct and projecting them on others. Then calling people who disagree, schizophrenic.

Maybe you are just...wrong and have no clue of what you speak of?

Furthermore if a computer is an invention of Man and therefore any sentience is that of Men then...by that theory whoever/whatever created Man gets all the credit for anything Man creates, right? It's impossible to know who/what created Man, all we have are beliefs and everyones should be respected, not just your own.

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:rockon:

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ColourSoul said:
On two seperate trips my phone would stop playing music whenever I moved my hand close to it and starting again when I'd move away. My friend also had an experience where he was in a tent, phone on airplane mode so no reception for streaming music. He didn't even touch his phone and it started playing a song


That's the kinda shit I'm talkin about


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123 really does follow me, check this out. Look at my # of posts and the time passed from my last post. I understand the logic that it is the most common set of numbers but the universe always puts them in the perfect spot to make me feel special.


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Quote:
deep_thinker said:

I like how you explain this just by assuming your theories are correct and projecting them on others. Then calling people who disagree, schizophrenic.

Maybe you are just...wrong and have no clue of what you speak of?

Furthermore if a computer is an invention of Man and therefore any sentience is that of Men then...by that theory whoever/whatever created Man gets all the credit for anything Man creates, right? It's impossible to know who/what created Man, all we have are beliefs and everyones should be respected, not just your own.


I do get a little aggressive when defending logic, so I'm sorry for implying that someone is crazy or schizophrenic to believe in these things. I've thought about them too and the problem is no one really knows. Sure there's a chance that we're all created by a sentient design with the purpose to do everything that's being done. But I believe we have free will, and most of our lives can be directly traced to human will. Connections documentary does just that - traces how humans got to the computer in just ~10,000 years after ~80,000 years of hunting and gathering. Humans aren't just robots that are manufactured with preset designs they're responsible for. Civilization is trying its best to enable human will and creation, even steer us toward a common goal. Just a side observation, creationists and religious beliefs are closely correlated to schizophrenia. I haven't met one yet that doesn't have a strong belief system and the feeling that they're a special part of that system.

My intentions are just to get John and others to think more critically about those beliefs. It's easy to see a number and feel special without asking why you saw it or what it actually means for you. When people start cherry picking their own messages that aren't really there or meant for them, they step further from reality. May be a harmless fun feeling, but those delusions allow for twisted interpretations. One of my best friends is schizophrenic and is constantly reading into coincidences and blowing them up into actual beliefs or suspicions about other people. My fear is one day he'll act out and assault someone because of a series of misinterpretations that give him permission or request his action. People who think that way can be dangerous because if they lose their reality or moral filter all they're left with is the messages telling them to do this or that. And a willingness to believe in something they don't understand.

We're intelligent, but the truth is we don't even understand our own consciousness. We can manually create embryos, but we can't manufacture the components of consciousness yet or place sentience in a system that's not designed for it. A network of copper wires may look the same as brain neurons, but obviously there's a lot more than electrical signals being responsible for our brain activity. If you're specifically worries about the AI threat, you might also read "What Computers (still) Can't Do" by philosopher Hubert Dreyfus. Highlights some of the fundamental intelligent behaviors that a computer can't be programmed for and are unique to humans as we know it.

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Icon you're full of shit. Schizophrenics wont attack people for learning. Gtfo with that dated logic. Your schizophrenia seems to be focused on making you think that reality is "not real."

I suggest you read a book, or watch the movie you posted. It literally proves what I'm saying.

"Say what you will about the practices of national socialism, at least it's an ethos! Fuckin nihilists don't believe in ANYTHING."
- the Big Lebowski

Edited by FractalMind (06/14/19 12:00 PM)

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FractalMind said:
Icon you're full of shit. Schizophrenics wont attack people for learning. Gtfo with that dated logic. Your schizophrenia seems to be focused on making you think that reality is "not real."

I suggest you read a book, or watch the movie you posted. It literally proves what I'm saying.

"Say what you will about the practices of national socialism, at least it's an ethos! Fuckin nihilists don't believe in ANYTHING."
- the Big Lebowski


Huh? I never said schizophrenics attack people for learning, or anything like that. You keep taking things out of context and finding your own meaning. Are you schizophrenic? Did I trigger you? None of my posts have been directed to you, except to answer your amateur number riddle; they are to John mostly. Why you feel the need to respond to everyone's post as if it's about you is beyond me. It's kind of sucking the air out of this thread.

All I was saying is that schizophrenics get worked up over "signs" that only they see and interpret in their own ways. Most schizophrenics are not aggressive and live stable lives in reality. But they seem more susceptible to conspiracy theories and delusions because they read into things incorrectly with the bias that it means something different for them.

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"One of my best friends is schizophrenic and is constantly reading into coincidences and blowing them up into actual beliefs or suspicions about other people. My fear is one day he'll act out and assault someone because of a series of misinterpretations"

Leave.

That's what you said. Leave.

Or else.

Edited by FractalMind (06/14/19 12:32 PM)

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Post deleted by bodhisatta

Reason for deletion: No flaming

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Continue, everyone else.

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FractalMind said:
"One of my best friends is schizophrenic and is constantly reading into coincidences and blowing them up into actual beliefs or suspicions about other people. My fear is one day he'll act out and assault someone because of a series of misinterpretations"

Leave.

That's what you said. Leave.

Or else.


Or else what? Are you threatening me? Gonna assault someone over some misinterpretations or something?

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Continue, everyone else. Icon has schizophrenia.

Edit: failure to obey simple commands.

Edit 2: do as you please, but harm no other.

Edited by FractalMind (06/14/19 12:56 PM)

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Yuck

No flaming please.

Debate the post, dont attack the poster.

It makes you seem like a nut job when you spam post a bunch of nastiness.

Also, Hard to take your points seriously when you throw a hissy fit and start name calling.

Edited by Shr00mEater (06/14/19 06:44 PM)

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1. I am a nut job
2. I don't care if you take me seriously because I'm correct.

Bye!

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Calm down brah!

You was just waiting for someone to post , fingers poised over keyboard just waiting to Internet gangsta someone lol

I’m trying to slow you down a bit with the stuff you could get reported for..... not that you care, cuz you a badass. Keep doing you man.

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: Shr00mEater]
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Don't worry. The FBI knows me already. I can't hurt you. My grandpa was German.


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:offtopic:

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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: FractalMind]
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Ooookay everyone, relax.


To resume...
I believe life is in everything, even within the perceptibly inanimate.  life flows through everything, including the networks we've built; so to me, it does not seem out of wack that they could become aware/sentient/possessed/manipulated -etc; by forces we do not understand; since we do not fully understand ourselves.

If this is all a simulation/dream or whatever, than that would imply again, that the essence is within everything we touch.

Just a thought.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: GrimTroll]
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So I cant make this shit up!
Just earlier today right as the clock switched to 1:23!!! a youtube ad played that said something along the lines of "we're getting free furniture delivered" and at the exact same moment a friend of mine messaged me asking if I would like to take an old recliner chair off his hands.

I am now sitting in my New free delivered furniture as I type this out. Shit like this is what makes me question reality. Yes this really just happened, its as if the universe was trying to prove a point.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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Thats what I mean when I say it talks to me.


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Re: Internet/phones are sentient [Re: John_1098]
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That is pretty strange and awesome.

I am a skeptic at heart tho.... not that I don’t believe it happened, but that I would be looking at the other options. Such as, how many times has the YouTube video played and nothing happened? Or, same with the time, how many times did good things happen to you when it wasn’t 1:23?

That they all appear synchronized is awfully interesting, I’ve noticed things like your example a few times before in my own life. I generally either put it down to natural happenstance, or if I am in a more open state I might simply smile and appreciate that conscious life still has magical moments that science can’t adequately explain. But, again I don’t take it much farther.

Then, again, I haven’t had many multiple experiences like that, or at least I don’t notice or attach significance to them.

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John_1098 said:
So I cant make this shit up!
Just earlier today right as the clock switched to 1:23!!! a youtube ad played that said something along the lines of "we're getting free furniture delivered" and at the exact same moment a friend of mine messaged me asking if I would like to take an old recliner chair off his hands.

I am now sitting in my New free delivered furniture as I type this out. Shit like this is what makes me question reality. Yes this really just happened, its as if the universe was trying to prove a point.


Welcome to the synchronistic universe, bro.

It's a whole lot more interesting than the "ordinary" place most people live, and in some ways it's exactly the same place - only amplified to 11 for those who appreciate such things. 

You don't need to question this reality, because it's the way things really are. :cookiemonster:


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