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Never tripped balls * 1
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I've been doing psychedelics for several years, mostly mushrooms, and I've been growing them for almost a year and a half. The highest dose of mushrooms I've ever taken was 1.5g and my average "trip" dose would be 1g to 1.2g on average. Most of the time, I'll take around .7 to .8 while smoking a lot of oil just to get in the headspace.

A lot of people are shocked that I've never even taken an 1/8th, despite the fact I've grown hundreds of mushrooms, and have been microdosing for more than a year. I love and preach the benefits of mushrooms, but I've never had a full blown psychedelic experience. Honestly, the reason is I'm scared the experience will simply be far too intense in a negative way. Like, I imagine I'd get transported to a world similar to LSD Dream Emulator (look it up if you don't know what what I'm talking about).

I've read countless trip reports and fully understand the mental and physical effects of mushrooms, but I'm just scared to take that full on plunge out of reality. I wanted to make this thread to get some input from someone that might've been in this same situation. It just boils down to the fact I'm worried about being completely mindfucked by some visually disturbing shit.

edit: another thing is I had one SUPER intense body load come up experience that has made me permanently fear the come up phase of tripping on mushrooms. I understand that the physical anxiety and heaviness is just part of the experience and can cause mental panic and fear, and I can see past that, but it's just very unpleasant. But the peak of euphoria always makes up for it and you kinda look back and always wish you ate more.

Thats one thing I forgot to mention. EVERY dose I ALWAYS tell myself "man, i could've handled more", but of course I only feel that way once I've peaked and all of that aching and physical anxiety has washed away.


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 2
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For me it's never been the visuals that scare me
It's the headspace and body/physical effects felt. I hate the body trip that's usually required to get well lifted on shrooms and the mental part can be great until you forget that time ever existed or that the reason you're feeling so fucked up is because of the drug you took or when you hit the loop and all you can remember is fractions of info like one tiny thing at a time.

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: StillSong] * 1
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If you’re cool hanging out where you’re at just keep hanging out there. Trips below 2 dried grams are a real joy. You definitely trip and it tends to remain within the “aesthetic range” of effects (I.e. not yet “heavy.”

With heavy trips the cool effects and distortions just keep proliferating until reality as you know it falls apart and you end up dissolving into, or becoming unable to differentiate between yourself and the visions and distortions. It feels serious. Lol.

I guess some people find it fun but for me it’s a serious endeavor in search of humility and insight; but I always come back to that same place and the thought rings in my head, “why do I keep coming back here?”

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 4
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That’s similar to how I feel about dmt.  It’s not the high or visuals it’s the uncomfortable feeling that the universe has beef with me and I’m doing it all wrong.  When you start figuring the meat and potatoes of this life there is a progression and eventually you notice all of what you weren’t noticing and it gets into the death factor and how easily this whole thing could and will go to shit...  everything gone, family, friends, good times, even yourself..gone.

I don’t even consider my body mine.. everything down to the last second is given, and taken.  At baseline I can ‘believe’ and feel the comforting lie that we all live to 80 and then you die and go to heaven where it gets even better..... then the shrooms come in and go, “not exactly”.

I’ve had this one salvia trip where the entire universe was angry at me, the anxiety was like acid in my blood (not the good kind of acid).  And then they wear off and I’m so happy to be back in this somewhat comfortable head space and that’s where the gold comes in because you honestly understand that any of us could go at any minute so every second becomes more lucid, legit and real as opposed to when you just ‘repeat’ all the sayings of being thankful... you actually are thankful.

There is no way this is a fluke, this life.  There is no chance this is random happenstance like the tv strongly suggests to you.  Absolutely zero, and when you understand how absurd it is we’re all here as guests it becomes clear, almost like you’ve been given new eyes and a new mind.  You’re no longer living an illusion, you can ‘see’ life as it actually is, you become reborn almost :hatsoff:

Say a prayer, give thanks and eat an 1/8.  Do it with the understanding you could die, or live forever, or anything inbetween.

What you’re looking for is what is outside your very controlled mindset that keeps you stuck in tunnel vision.  Think of it like walking, if you never go where you haven’t been you’ll never learn, grow, become a much more complex, understanding being capable of existing outside of your comfort zone and that’s when you become a self contained complete creature because you don’t have a part of your head sleeping in a state of sloth... look at it like lifting weights, you have to add more weight and discomfort to be better but instead of your biceps it’s your mind, you.

Eat that 1/8.  You may take a spin through some uncomfortable territory but you’ll be glad you did it.


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Amanita86] * 2
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I think that did it for me Amanita. Very inspiring!!!


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 1
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As long as you don’t have an underlying mental illness, you will be fine. Don’t be afraid of the difficult trip. They encourage mental and spiritual growth.


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus]
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magicschoolbus said:
I've read countless trip reports and fully understand the mental and physical effects of mushrooms, but I'm just scared to take that full on plunge out of reality. I wanted to make this thread to get some input from someone that might've been in this same situation. It just boils down to the fact I'm worried about being completely mindfucked by some visually disturbing shit.


I share such feelings of trepidation, and have been inching upwards in doses with great caution (though I too microdose regularly). I have gotten up to 3.5g with underwhelming results. Neither profundity, nor mindfuckery. Mild 3D OEVs, and a communication from a "cat goddess" to go forth and rescue kittens (yeah, seriously ... no, seriously silly).

The only useful thing I can say is that I've found lemon balm tea to be very effective against apprehension of the come-up.

P.S. Didn't you report taking 4g a year ago?


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 3
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I have officially become a ‘post terrence clips’ guy... :cookiemonster:

I snagged these because I think they hit on some good parts of the subject.  There’s a lot of his clips you can look up, I like hearing him talk because it makes me feel like I have a teammate and we’re in it together.  Essentially, know that you could become scared, that way you aren’t blindsided.  You may want to exercise first to burn off extra energy and to dump feel good drugs into your mind.  Be hydrated etc. and enjoy it. :thumbup:







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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 1
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I have a similar feeling as well.

The way i see it is preparing for such a trip is absolutely critical. Make sure u are in a comfortable place (like at home or at a friends house whos also doing shrooms) and make sure your mental state is clear of negative stuff (makes the trip easier).

Its sorta like flying in an airplane. Its scary to board the plane, if u think u might crash, but once your high flying in the air, its not scary anymore. U just ride it out when the moment is happening. Thats how i feel about shrooming on larger doses. Its scary to think about but once youre there, the fear dissolves as your world transforms before your eyes and ears.

And u dont even need to do a whole 3.5 grams, u could do 2.5 grams instead and "baby step it". Whatever youre comfortable with.

Intense trips can be scary but i find them so intriguing and deep, that once youre inside the trip, those fears will mostly dissolve away. Just remember the importance of set and setting and u will be fine :thumbup:


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 1
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As the mother queen of tripping balls, at this point I would just advise not to do it. Drugs need to be used sensibly (preferably as entheogens IMO but I'll accept as reasonable anything that sounds like it could be), rather than just for the hell of it. With all due respect to your bravery for doing drugs at all (most people would be scared as fuck to do what you've done already), you sound like you just want to trip balls to know what it's like.

I'll tell you, in a nutshell, what it's like. At least 15 times I smoked a full bowl of 60X salvia with a torch lighter in a single hit. Salvia is arguably the most powerful drug there is on Earth. I completely lost control of my body because of what my mind was telling me, there was no mind-body filter like there is in a sane mind. I felt like I was being pulled by the vagina to the end of the universe (which will never actually happen but that's another topic) and slowly, over the entire trip, floating back. Motherfuckers have climbed phone poles and jumped off on fucking drugs, man.

I've had to go through 12 years of mental health treatment because I'm a hardened drug addict that refused to quit for all that time. Now I just get high on being well. I've been concentrating on getting my psychiatric drugs right. I've had to ask university-educated professional drug dealers for 3mg risperidone, 1.2g sodium valproate and 50mg promethazine daily. That might work for someone else who's fried her/his brain on recreational drugs so I'm posting it. It's a stupendous amount of pharmaceutical-grade medicine in case you might be ignorant about this kind of drugs.

I realize this opinion is going to be out of place on a magic mushroom forum but your post made me see a red flag.

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: CountHTML]
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CountHTML said:
If you’re cool hanging out where you’re at just keep hanging out there. Trips below 2 dried grams are a real joy. You definitely trip and it tends to remain within the “aesthetic range” of effects (I.e. not yet “heavy.”

With heavy trips the cool effects and distortions just keep proliferating until reality as you know it falls apart and you end up dissolving into, or becoming unable to differentiate between yourself and the visions and distortions. It feels serious. Lol.

I guess some people find it fun but for me it’s a serious endeavor in search of humility and insight; but I always come back to that same place and the thought rings in my head, “why do I keep coming back here?”


Couldn't agree more.  The revelations and mysteries I experience during a mushroom trip can be tapped into at a large range of doses, both large and small.  The answers I sought at high doses would have been given to me at lower doses if I was willing to just sit still enough and listen but it took me a bit to understand that.  I only like heavy trips for being able to just close my eyes and easily dissolve into space but those trips can really be physically and mentally draining


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Edited by Psicomb (05/27/19 10:32 AM)

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Psicomb] * 1
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Heavy doses / trips are great in the sense that there is the near guarantee of profound effects and experiences, regardless of how resistant or lumpen one may be. I think going deeper on lower doses is actually a good sign.

The person who goes through the door in the wall will never quite be the same upon returning. For some, coming back to consensus reality after 6 hours will have left them “well-traveled” in ways few can understand — which is why processing the experience post hoc in places like this is important.

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Alyssa] * 4
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A full bowl of 60x salvia is an entirely different beast than 1/8 of shrooms.

They’re completely different drugs and you’re comparing a rather mellow dose of shrooms to a massive overdose of salvia..:shrug:


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Amanita86] * 2
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3.5 grams of medium-strong shrooms is considered on the lower side of a high-dose.

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus]
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magicschoolbus said:
A lot of people are shocked that I've never even taken an 1/8th, despite the fact I've grown hundreds of mushrooms, and have been microdosing for more than a year. I love and preach the benefits of mushrooms, but I've never had a full blown psychedelic experience. Honestly, the reason is I'm scared the experience will simply be far too intense in a negative way. Like, I imagine I'd get transported to a world similar to LSD Dream Emulator (look it up if you don't know what what I'm talking about).


There's only one way over that hurdle and you already know what it is. :yeahthatsright:

Say your prayers and take the medicine.  You may not want to go back there but at least you'll have gone there so you'll know. :yinyang2:

Tea is helpful if you make it right, because the comeup becomes really short and you slide into the peak without having time to worry about it...


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
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OP, you might find 3.5 grams surprisingly manageable.  I understand there's a certain logic to steeling your mind for the possibility of a tough trip, but unless you're super sensitive, your concerns might be better saved for a 5+ gram trip.

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Alyssa]
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Alyssa said:
...your post made me see a red flag.


Nevermind. 

Edited by PrimeNumber (05/27/19 10:55 PM)

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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: PrimeNumber]
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watercolors said:
magicschoolbus said:
I've read countless trip reports and fully understand the mental and physical effects of mushrooms, but I'm just scared to take that full on plunge out of reality. I wanted to make this thread to get some input from someone that might've been in this same situation. It just boils down to the fact I'm worried about being completely mindfucked by some visually disturbing shit.


I share such feelings of trepidation, and have been inching upwards in doses with great caution (though I too microdose regularly). I have gotten up to 3.5g with underwhelming results. Neither profundity, nor mindfuckery. Mild 3D OEVs, and a communication from a "cat goddess" to go forth and rescue kittens (yeah, seriously ... no, seriously silly).

The only useful thing I can say is that I've found lemon balm tea to be very effective against apprehension of the come-up.

P.S. Didn't you report taking 4g a year ago?


I just re-read that post. When I did that, that mushrooms I used weren't completed dried for sure and I knew that going into it.


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: magicschoolbus] * 1
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3 to 4.5 grams of Lemon Balm tea with the mushrooms, smooths out that intense come up. Thank me later lol


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Re: Never tripped balls [Re: Sabnock]
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I mean, do you even really want to have the full on experience? You don’t need to have it right this second or even ever no one’s forcing you, only do it if you really want to do it for you.

The only thing to fear is fear itself, I mean you’re resisting the experience just typing this out, let go, man.

You won’t be able to control the experience even if it does go down the “intensely negative” path which has to do with how you’re perceiving the experience and resisting it, all there is to do is to close your eyes and let it happen, it will NOT physically harm you and you WILL come back. So what are you really scared of? A little intensity during the moment? Let goooo! You’ll come back In a few hours.

I’m like this with dmt so I completely understand, but i can tell you for a fact it’s all irrational fear since these substances at proper dosage cannot physically harm you or kill you, what’s so bad about putting in a few rough hours that have the potential to immensely help you in your life/completely change your perspective of reality?


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