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Pandemoon
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Pandemoon]
#27143247 - 01/12/21 06:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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These are my recent boxes, 16" tubs. 2x AmazonasPES, 2x Mazatapec.
The two Mazatapec come along nicely, the two Amazonas seem to be bacterial due to the shitload of crazy mutants. I let them grow anyway.. 

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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Pandemoon]
#27143988 - 01/12/21 02:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I dunk it’s usually only for 30-60 minutes.
A lot of times I just soak the surface with the mister but it depends on how big the flush was among other things.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#27150182 - 01/15/21 05:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tacitus
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So dry coir mixed with mycelium? No FAE during the growing period?
This is completely different from everything else I have seen
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Tacitus]
#27156267 - 01/18/21 08:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tacitus said: So dry coir mixed with mycelium? No FAE during the growing period?
This is completely different from everything else I have seen
Double check the tek -- the coir is hyrdated via a bucket tek and the boxes aren't air tight, so there is FAE even with the lids on.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: jay.ach]
#27159584 - 01/20/21 01:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, I've been experimenting with 2nd and further flushes and I've found that the following works surprisingly well.
After harvesting everything I take a clean fork and puncture the substrate - not really all the way through to the bottom, more like halfway. When the fork is in, I twist it 90 degrees or so, so that the substrate is loosened around the fork. I'm not trying to plow the whole thing completely, just loosen the surface. I repeat the move in a quasi-regular pattern, every 3-5 cm or so - again, not very exact. After I'm done, I mist very well (30 seconds or so) and close the lid. No dunking.
The mushrooms seem to really like their new avenues to the surface. I get many fruits, not very large, but all over the place. Also, because the substrate gets pushed back against the sides of the box, there's less side pinning than I normally get with flushes 2+.
I need to do more runs to see how consistent this is.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Frrrunkis]
#27159728 - 01/20/21 02:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok this might be a dumb question, but I see people harvesting everything (large and small mushrooms) at one time. Wouldn't it be better to pick the big ones and let the smaller ones grow further? Or is it, when its time to harvest, it is time to harvest everything?
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Tacitus]
#27159733 - 01/20/21 02:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tacitus said: Ok this might be a dumb question, but I see people harvesting everything (large and small mushrooms) at one time. Wouldn't it be better to pick the big ones and let the smaller ones grow further? Or is it, when its time to harvest, it is time to harvest everything?
The goal is a even flush and at one time. If you pick when they are ready you’ll be picking every day every other hour and what not. Just not viable
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The boxes shown a few posts above gave me some really nice fruits.
Two boxes of Amazonas PES had some really fat mutants. Two pictures from two days before harvest, the other one right after harvesting showing some mutants, with a normal fruitbody to the very left. Three ounzes dry.
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The other two Mazatapec boxes truned out really nice, too. Drying now, but it should be also around 100g dry I guess.
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Is there a lack of potency with the smaller mushrooms or are they all about the same?
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Tacitus]
#27160246 - 01/20/21 07:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Supposedly they’re all the same. I kinda think smaller ones are actually more potent though.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#27160260 - 01/20/21 07:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've thought about how often I've heard this reported from people that the time they got the most fucked up on mushrooms in their lives was the time they had these "really little ones" or "really skinny ones", and this has gone back way before my cult days so it was different users from batches grown by different cultivators. SO this has lead me to believe, knowing what I do now that I cultivate lots of mush, is that the small/skinny ones are often the best dehydrated specimens from the random cultivators' batch, thereby lending to the best experience down the road when it finally reaches it's end user and is consumed. Extrapolate that out to many many cultivators over time, many of which have less than optimal drying practices, and you arrive at the reputation of the small ones being "the most potent".
I take the approach of leaving the biggest donger on the top rack and weighing it towards the end of the cycle every so often till it stops loosing weight and that way any mush anyone gets that was grown by me, no matter how big the fruits are, will still be as fire as the smallest driest mushy from the lot.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: EZPZyaBZ]
#27160550 - 01/21/21 12:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you chop your fresh mushrooms all into equal pieces of an inch or so before drying, you not only speed up the drying process enormously, but save a lot of storage space and also homogenize the potency variations that comes along with multispore grows. It's quite the same as powderizing a dry batch of shrooms.
It's a win-win-win so to say, and I wonder why only few people do this. You chop or grind the dried shrooms also before you eat them, so why not before drying? 
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Pandemoon]
#27160568 - 01/21/21 12:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: If you chop your fresh mushrooms all into equal pieces of an inch or so before drying, you not only speed up the drying process enormously, but save a lot of storage space and also homogenize the potency variations that comes along with multispore grows. It's quite the same as powderizing a dry batch of shrooms.
It's a win-win-win so to say, and I wonder why only few people do this. You chop or grind the dried shrooms also before you eat them, so why not before drying? 
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Mycanthrope]
#27160573 - 01/21/21 12:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, if your intent is to make profit..
People who grow for themself don't need to worry about such things.. 
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Pandemoon]
#27160996 - 01/21/21 09:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I only chop up big PE or really dense other cubes.
Mostly just cuz I don’t want to expose so much surface area, but really if you store them right that’s not even an issue.
I do cut the caps off a lot cuz it makes them easier to store. I usually really pack the jars full but there’s something about a complete intact mushroom that’s cool.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#27161087 - 01/21/21 10:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I only chop up big PE or really dense other cubes.
Mostly just cuz I don’t want to expose so much surface area, but really if you store them right that’s not even an issue.
I do cut the caps off a lot cuz it makes them easier to store. I usually really pack the jars full but there’s something about a complete intact mushroom that’s cool.
Took your advice and harvested the whole box while all the caps were in lollipop mode for the first time. Loading them into the jar was a million times more pleasant, holds more, and is def the prettiest jar of dried fruits I've got in the collection now.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: Pandemoon]
#27161969 - 01/21/21 05:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My intent is to definitely NOT make a profit.... my Jedi's are for me and the wife only
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: karri0n]
#27162097 - 01/21/21 06:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right on.
I always felt like pulling them before they opened was missing out on size but I think it’s just an optical illusion how big they look with wide open caps.
They’re definitely so much nicer with rounded caps.
I’ve posted this before but it’s still one of my favorite clones I did. All matured exactly the same speed and had nice round caps.

Plus waaay less crumbs in the bags or jars from disintegrating caps.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK [Re: A.k.a]
#27162244 - 01/21/21 07:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am newer to this, all my success has been in shoeboxes. I keep them in a grow tent with light on for 12hrs. Temp 24 c. Humidity is always around 30 here. At night i run a humidifier in the tent a couple time pumping the humidity to 70ish for the dark cycle. I find its really helped with moisture on tent in boxes. I have harvested 1 pound of dried fruit so far. This is my tent and one of my one APE boxes.
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