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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26501556 - 02/24/20 01:17 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Forgive me if this is getting off subject but I do have a mix of Coir/verm/Gypsum /peat is this over kill or should i just use it because I have it? What are the benefits of using just verm? Another question is that should I wait to case until the whole top of my sub is colonized? I've spent the last three months reading shroomery posts my head is like bees hive of information. lol I see how people go into the mushroom business after growing. lol many thanks!
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: SeraphimLumin]
#26501610 - 02/24/20 01:39 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would probably work. I usually case once the tub is at around 80-90%.
The casing is supposed to be separate from the sub, so casing with coir can work but it’s more like just extending the sub. As long as it holds water and has no nutrients it should work for casing.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26502574 - 02/25/20 04:39 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made ny first shoebox on 2'19'20, and stuck as closely as possible to the original tek. I had 1 PE brf cake that produced a couole blobs, but otherwise had been doing nothing. Also 1 PE brf had just been birthed. I pasteurized some coir <field capacity, and made a simple casing >field capacity. Mixed sub 11:1.5, the substrate was less than 3 quarts, so the sub isn't quite as thick as I'd like. Oh well! Evened out the mixture in the tub, applied the moist casing, evened out, there's ~3 quarts total. Casing was misted, then the box was sealed with plastic wrap, with 2 small polyfill vents.
I'm thrilled! At day 5, the myc is eating through the casing fast. One note: put the tub where it won't have to be moved. In moving mine, a lot of condensation probably went straight to the bottom. Day 1, before casing was applied:
 Day 3:
 Day 5, side shot:
Also, my first brf grow, GT, had 2 strong flushes, but was 'going senile'...sitting there doing nothing. I prepared coir, <field capacity, grated up the brf cake, and set up a 6 cup mini tub with plastic wrap and polyfill, as in the other, larger tub. Casing is >field capacity, moist. I'm hopeful!

I'll keep y'all posted!
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26502709 - 02/25/20 07:47 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok so I couldn't find my casing mix last night so I cased my tubs with just verm. Then I woke up this morning and realized that I just put DRY verm on my colonized PE. I misted the verm to get it wet, ugh, Did I just fuck this shit up?
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: SeraphimLumin]
#26502968 - 02/25/20 11:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol i really don’t know but I’m sure it’ll be fine. A few hours of dry verm on top shouldn’t hurt it.
I’m curious how that gt cake does. Seems like it’ll be weak after two flushes but you never know.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26503162 - 02/25/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here’s my shoebox home base. And a fun pic of one my paintings. 3 Burma brf cakes in coir verm. 2 PE rye berry into coir verm with just verm casing, and my last two are PE millet into coirverm with coir verm peat lime casing. Either I’ll have a shit ton of mushies or something lol. Either way I’m having a lot of fun.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: SeraphimLumin]
#26503841 - 02/25/20 06:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know each batch of coco is different, but as a rule of thumb, I tend to use 5x the weight of coco in water to get close to field capacity. So, 3.25 litres to a 650g block.
For this tek I'm thinking I might try 4x water? That is, 2.6 litres?
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: bongoman]
#26503939 - 02/25/20 07:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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So.. been tryin this tek out and things were looking good and BAM! had to be out of town for work for 6 days, and I don't think my "caretaker" even stopped by onc e because I came home to these pics. My Ecuador's grew few, monster fruits that spores everywhere, even on top of the lid! Are they still good to eat? Is my shoebox done with all those spores? My GT's look like they rotted and were small, is this box done too? This would be first flush on both

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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: Sikjakass]
#26503940 - 02/25/20 07:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I suck at this loading pic thing
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: Sikjakass]
#26504655 - 02/26/20 10:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those look fine to eat 
I’d be cautious about the rotten ones tho.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: staytrippy420]
#26505305 - 02/26/20 06:04 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said:I usually case once the tub is at around 80-90%.
So you’re not casing at the time of spawning to coir? What are the advantages of casing once there's been some colonisation?
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: bongoman]
#26505443 - 02/26/20 07:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
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A.k.a said:I usually case once the tub is at around 80-90%.
So you’re not casing at the time of spawning to coir? What are the advantages of casing once there's been some colonisation?
You know I don’t remember for sure that’s just how I read to do it. I think it doesn’t make a lot of difference but might help to make sure the casing doesn’t get super over grown. One of my pe clones is doing it right now. Grew into the case so much it’s like it’s not there.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: SeraphimLumin]
#26505870 - 02/27/20 04:37 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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A.k.a.--so far so good. You can see the myc through the plastic, fuzzing up.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26507848 - 02/28/20 09:24 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I spawned to shoeboxes yesterday and it looks like it's too wet! Should I wipe the excess water out?  Also you may have noticed they're in totes. Because we have tons of nats here, just trying to keep them out. Thanks for your time
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: Inthepit] 1
#26507980 - 02/28/20 10:58 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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@Inthepit I would leave it mine looked like that. Now 10 days later there pinning like mad 🤟🏻
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I had a good first flush and soaked my substrates for a few hours before draining.
But now I can’t read surface conditions - I’m not getting any surface beading at all and when I mist it doesn’t bead up, it just looks wet for a while then the surface looks dry again but I’m not even certain if it is actually dry. I’ve just got flipped lids at the moment but feel I’ve lost my way with these boxes.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: bongoman]
#26509914 - 02/29/20 03:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Today I dropped one of two trays spilling half the contents of the tray ! Luckily it all fell inside of a clean tote. How far back will this set that tray ? Also it seems much slower colonization with WBS than I had with Rye. I was eyeing pins at this point 2 weeks in with Rye berries on my last shoebox. Any input would be appreciated
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: Bsfixit]
#26509924 - 02/29/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bongo I was having problems after soaking too, so I started just filling the shoebox up like 1/3 of the way and leaving it for an hour max, then spraying down the top. Soaking the whole thing for hours was giving me waterlogged mushrooms.
Fixit how far along was the one you dropped? It shouldn’t be a big deal. If it was still new enough to crumble then it’ll probly just set it back a day or two, if it was well colonized then it might not do anything to it. People break subs in half on accident a lot.
I don’t think the grain makes a difference in time, conditions and genetics can vary widely. I’ve got a Burma clone that takes as long as pe to pin when the ms grow it came from was pretty quick.
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Re: SFF Shoebox Assembly TEK (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26510132 - 02/29/20 05:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks A.K.A.. it was two weeks tomorrow none of it clumped together yet .. it was like I just mixed it I used G2G with some of the Rye used in my last shoebox , I made transfers in my SAB before I mixed the rest with coir which turned out quite successfully I might add.
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