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Offlinefaelr
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how or why.......what's the better question?
    #2599859 - 04/25/04 01:32 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

just thought i'd ask everyone's opinion on this.

when someone asks a queston should it start of with the how or why type of analysis?


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599870 - 04/25/04 01:36 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

both...

why come from just one perspective?

how would one way be better than the other?? 

:grin:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2599877 - 04/25/04 01:37 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

just for the sake of learning i guess....maybe it does depend on perspective but that's what i'm after.:)


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599896 - 04/25/04 01:43 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

to make my queston a little more clear.
example:
why do we exist? vs. how do we exist?
why do people jack off? vs. how do people jack off?
why do you have to find the G-spot? vs. how do you find the g-spot!?! :lol::lol:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599898 - 04/25/04 01:43 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"just for the sake of learning i guess....maybe it does depend on perspective but that's what i'm after"

:thumbup:


super sweet!!!

also I think it depends on the situation at hand too.

starting out with what... who.... or where...also helps. each gives it's own unique peice of information



"there is no god"

how did you come to that conclusion?

why do you think this is true?

when did you first start believing this?

what piece(s) of information/ experience did you have to come to this conclusion

etc...


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2599906 - 04/25/04 01:47 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

kaiowas is right.  The g-spot is a whole 'nother matter.  :grin:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599908 - 04/25/04 01:47 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"why do we exist? vs. how do we exist?
why do people jack off? vs. how do people jack off?
why do you have to find the G-spot? vs. how do you find the g-spot!?!"

ahhh!!!!


ok....I did misunderstand


hmmm...damn now I don't know!!!!  or maybe it' becuase I didn't know in the first place...good question!!!

but i still think each can give a piece of the information

ask someone

how do you jack off....
why do you jack off...
where do you jack off...
when do you jack off..
what do you jack off with....
who do you think about when jacking off...


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2599917 - 04/25/04 01:50 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

why?
:lol::lol:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599923 - 04/25/04 01:52 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Both are good in their own way. Depends on the nature of the information.
Sometimes, the best way to extract information from a source is to use the"why", and at other times it's the "how". Neither is "better" than the other, as each serve to provide us with information in their own unique way that none the other can accomplish.

Just a side thought: It seems that "how" relates much more to the scientific qualities of the object, and deals with the mechanics of it. Whereas "why" applies to a broader scope of the objects nature. Why is also much more likely to be open to interpretation.


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599944 - 04/25/04 01:58 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe to know the WHY is to know the HOW, but to know the HOW is to not know the WHY.

In other words if you really, really know WHY, you will also know HOW.


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2599947 - 04/25/04 01:59 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

for the sake of amusment I'll answer these


how do you jack off....my hand (sometimes vaseline helps)
why do you jack off... my gf left me and I have no SO
where do you jack off...in my room
when do you jack off..at night around 1:07 am Pacific Standard Time
what do you jack off with....(first question answered this one)
who do you think about when jacking off...(any woman that I haven't thought of yet, though sometimes there are the inevitable repeats)

in this case the why question gave more information

how do you find that g-spot vs, why do you find that g-spot


in this case the how question gaves more information.

so I guess (just liek the diapers) it depends.


note: I'm sorry if this is degrading your post. mods: I will delete it if people get offended or if you find it degrading

hehe


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: kaiowas]
    #2599958 - 04/25/04 02:04 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

kaiowas said:
for the sake of amusment I'll answer these


how do you jack off....my hand (sometimes vaseline helps)
why do you jack off... my gf left me and I have no SO
where do you jack off...in my room
when do you jack off..at night around 1:07 am Pacific Standard Time
what do you jack off with....(first question answered this one)
who do you think about when jacking off...(any woman that I haven't thought of yet, though sometimes there are the inevitable repeats)

in this case the why question gave more information

how do you find that g-spot vs, why do you find that g-spot


in this case the how question gaves more information. 

so I guess (just liek the diapers) it depends.


note: I'm sorry if this is degrading your post. mods: I will delete it if people get offended or if you find it degrading

hehe



:lol: fucking hilarious!:lol: not offending at all!
the spot has always been in the same area to my knowledge the next question is why do some girls like cunnilingus more than intercourse? hahahha :lol: rhetorical question but if anyone wants to answer than be my guest!;)


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2599969 - 04/25/04 02:08 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

" the next question is why do some girls like cunnilingus more than intercourse?"

The same reason why some guys prefer a good BJ over intercourse. No effort involved, just get to sit back and enjoyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: manna_man]
    #2599980 - 04/25/04 02:15 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Um, OTD???  :lol:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2600570 - 04/25/04 10:19 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

In the "why" approach, your going to get "meanings" which are totally subjective; the only meaning something can have is a meaning that an individual gives it.

In the "how" approach, your going to get "reasons" which describe processes of existance and actuallity; this knowledge is often useful.

It really comes down to whether you are seeking truth truth (harsh realities that are sometimes hard to cope with) or made-up truth (can be anything, and lets you dellude yourself into a dream world)

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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2600758 - 04/25/04 11:35 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

how or why.......what's the better question?
Don't you mean which is the better question?  Hahahah, my question just kicked your question's ass!

(Ignore me)  :crazy2:


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: Viaggio]
    #2600781 - 04/25/04 11:45 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

You should answer how first, if they're asking you about it as to establish what you're talking about (as I notice many of the disagreements people have come from not speaking on the same definition...) and then answer the why after the how's established


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #2600841 - 04/25/04 12:03 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

In the "why" approach, your going to get "meanings" which are totally subjective; the only meaning something can have is a meaning that an individual gives it.



...which is the only method you can apply to elements in your own life. Life in its entirety is a subjective experience. Hardly worthless.
Besides, "why does a rock fall to the ground" hardly requires a subjective response.

Quote:

In the "how" approach, your going to get "reasons" which describe processes of existance and actuallity; this knowledge is often useful.



"Reasons" are answers to the why question, as "reasons" are subjective. When it comes down to living, what use is it to the average person to know how planets four light years away move?

Quote:

It really comes down to whether you are seeking truth truth (harsh realities that are sometimes hard to cope with) or made-up truth (can be anything, and lets you dellude yourself into a dream world)



If you wanna be an hardcore objectivist about this, I'm not gonna stop you. Nevertheless, subjectivity can provide just as much truth as objectivity can, and we don't even have to include religion into this equation to see this.
While seeking 'truth' is a noble goal, the desire to seek it out is subjective. So I ask you, which is more important? Satisfying the desire to find truth, or the act itself? Finding out what you want in life, or finding out how things work? To live or to know?


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2601133 - 04/25/04 01:08 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

In science:
Physicists ask why?
and
Engineers ask how?

Which you use depends on what you are asking. Changing one word, why to how, completely changes the question.


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Re: how or why.......what's the better question? [Re: faelr]
    #2603590 - 04/26/04 02:38 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

How am I supposed to know, and why do you ask?


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