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Novo help
    #26000671 - 05/18/19 10:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Transplanted a couple weeks ago now
It ain't looking so hot


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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26005668 - 05/21/19 02:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Can anyone send me some advice on what to do about
getting her green and healthy again?

I'm familiar with growing bud, but I'd imagine their
nutrient needs differ.

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26006124 - 05/21/19 07:10 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

What kind of soil?

Watering schedule?

Lighting?

What's the humidity like?

I've never grown this plant just trying to help.

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Re: Novo help [Re: BattyKoda]
    #26006233 - 05/21/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Soil is mixed. All kinds of things. Some general gardening
soil. It's usually a houseplant but I bring it out when it's
warm. When indoors I water when the soil feels dry. When
outside I water more. Full sun when it's warm out, window and
some light hitting it from a grow lamp when indoors.

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26006820 - 05/22/19 06:00 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

How old is your E. novogranatense plant, and have you ever experienced it going deciduous? For my Erythroxylum spp. plants, it's a recurring phenomenon. Sadly I never managed to comprehend why they do this. These plants are quite finicky -for me anyway- and are rather sensitive to changing growing conditions.

One of my E. novogranatense is also exhibiting chlorosis, even though they were repotted a couple of weeks ago. Other Erythroxylum plants in the same soil mixture are doing better and are growing fresh lime green leaves, so that couldn't be the problem. They were once again affected by spider mites though, so that might be a cause. Have you already checked your plant for pests?

Also check out this post I made in the 'Erythroxylum growers unite'.

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Re: Novo help [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26007128 - 05/22/19 10:15 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks. Mine is 2.5 years old. No signs of spider
mites. An occasional fungus gnat.

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26007335 - 05/22/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I have grown a few novo´s.
I tried many types of soil and strangely it seemed like the more i tried special soils the worse the plants looked.
Now, i just use plain soilmix for houseplants from the garden shelf at our local food store and it seems to work ok.

Also it´s seems like cocas thrive after i pick very many leafs off the plant and it induces them to start flowering after and they get a growth boost.
One can vary the lights also.
I changed from 13 hours of light to 11 hours and that also made them flower.

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Re: Novo help [Re: Mateo]
    #26007384 - 05/22/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you. Ill prune some of the trashy leaves

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26007720 - 05/22/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

So your E. novogranatense has never gone deciduous in those 2,5 years? I believe that's an accomplishment in itself, since more people have experienced their Erythroxylum spp. going deciduous. If you haven't given them a vastly different soil mixture and they're not affected by pests, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Also, great to have you back, Mateo. Hopefully all has been well!

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Re: Novo help [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26007740 - 05/22/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Ok. Let me ask this. Deciduous as in losing leaves?

Ive lost a leaf or two at times. Flowered twice.

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26007795 - 05/22/19 05:06 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I probably didn't use the correct word, but I mean chlorosis of the leaves followed by most if not all of them falling off. Like the plant on the right in the picture below. That plant was already starting to grow new leaves though. A couple of weeks before taking that picture, it would have only had those three yellow, cut in half leaves . I believe your E. novogranatense might be undergoing the same, judging from the picture.




And another example. These are E. coca though, but the same phenomenon occurs.


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Re: Novo help [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26007799 - 05/22/19 05:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Oh ok. Thanks. I feel a little better
now lol. Ill prune her yellows and
see if that helps.

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26007835 - 05/22/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I think your cocas in the pics look fine.
A few dried leaf is no big deal, maybe you have done something that changed humidity?
Or they got more/stronger light suddenly?
Things like that can make a few leaf dry and fall off.
They still look very good.

Poison Drink, are you sure bugs/mites have nothing to do with the leaf falling off?
I have had similar but after a spray or 2 they came back with new leafs everywhere.


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Re: Novo help [Re: Mateo]
    #26007848 - 05/22/19 05:27 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah the introduction to full sun may be it!!

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Re: Novo help [Re: myceliups]
    #26011576 - 05/24/19 06:55 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

All my e.coca's drop every leaf evry single one every year sometimes twice. They look like dead twigs for a while then they boom back shoots everywhere. Mine are about 5 year old now.


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    #26011905 - 05/24/19 11:53 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Your coca doesn’t look bad to me either. Coca is known to need more iron, and iron only goes into solution in an acidic pH. I bet if you lowered your pH and added a liquid iron supplement to your water you’ll see it get greener in a few days. BTW, liquid iron supplements are very acidic, you’ll kill two birds with one stone. I don’t recall the exact values, but I’d say shoot for a pH of 5-6. This has worked for me on several occasions. Mine were looking pretty sickly after the winter indoors. I repotted, added a pH reduced to the soil, and fertilized. They already look better after 3-4 days although I’m apparently out of iron supplements. I’ll get some iron and add it to the next feeding. I love the way coca responds to good care, results usually come fast and usually a fresh flush of flowers comes with it


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    #26012098 - 05/25/19 03:59 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Mine is kept at ph5-6 closer to 5. Always has perfect green leaves.


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Re: Novo help [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #26012437 - 05/25/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Poison Drink, are you sure bugs/mites have nothing to do with the leaf falling off? I have had similar but after a spray or 2 they came back with new leafs everywhere.




Maybe you're right, even though other plants affected by spider mites don't end up with chlorotic leaves.


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All my e.coca's drop every leaf evry single one every year sometimes twice. They look like dead twigs for a while then they boom back shoots everywhere. Mine are about 5 year old now.



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Mine is kept at ph5-6 closer to 5. Always has perfect green leaves.




So the leaves don't turn chlorotic right before they fall off?

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Re: Novo help [Re: Poison Drink]
    #26013627 - 05/26/19 01:15 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I have bags full of green leaves that fell off in my freezer.


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