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bodhisatta said:
1. The stickys at the top of the forum
2. You don't need an air filter. My grows are in the same room as two litter boxes used by my two cats. My house is 80+ years old. Doesn't matter

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bodhisatta said:
People act like having a 40+ hour a week job, and sleeping mean you can't grow mushrooms. It really doesn't take that much work to get some baseline results

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I know this is an old post, but 40 hours a week + sleeping sounds like heaven. Don't have kids!

Jokes aside, time is money, and regrettably I did not see this post before encountering a Canadian kit vendor and making a spur-of-the-moment decision. I'll just run it as a side project. If it does anything that isn't embarrassing I'll share it on the forum.

The only concern I really have about it is I don't actually have a way of knowing I'm not growing poison? It would be a weird way to murder someone, but psychos do psychotic things. I suppose I'll be able to get it id'd here to be safe, assuming I grow anything at all?

The kit looks like a much simpler version of whatever is described in the main post--just a very disposable looking fruiting chamber, a litre of spawn, straw, casing soil, a "mixing bag" (lol), a spray bottle (lolol), and an instruction booklet I will probably ignore. The price is cringeworthy, but I've made worse mistakes, and it'll be nice to have something to contrast with the proper PF grow I'll be doing in the next room.

Thanks tons for this post. It looks like it helped some folks. I probably would have ignored it, because drunk noobs gotta drunk noob, but I really appreciate everything I've learned reading this forum over the past week or two. You guys rule.

Nice to meet you all. Dont hold my kit against me. I'm learning fast.

James

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McShroomface said:
I sined and bought a kit, but will never do that again...

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Hey at least you learned...

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bodhisatta said:
If they actually were foolproof we wouldn't be littered with grow kit fail threads. They get hate because we see noobs fail and get turned off to the hobby all the time because of kits

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Yep! Better to do the research and do your own prep work.

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westdrayton said:
I have bought grow kits and stuff so that i need only to inject into the growing pots that they provide and later to put the white cakes into open air to grow. Very easy. But not so expensive because people put much bigger amounts of money under they hobbies. For example monthly alcohol costs or billiards costs are much higher for some people than a grow kit cost. So i don't think that the price is too high. Most people will grow and try only 1 time in their life. It is like the high price of taxi cab or renting a car price that is high but you use it rarely.
Secondly, those grow kits/things are fool-proof and will guarantee to work.
I have enjoyed those grow kits and started now to learn next level things to reduce costs.

I believe those grow kits are good things.

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the_sonic16 said:
It's understandable why someone would want to buy one though. This site is great, but to its detriment, there is SO much information it can be hard to digest. There are so many different formats for grain spawn, a variety of substrates and ways that you can do a spawn run, and plenty of options for fruiting chambers. One essentially has to read all the info and piece together an option that works best for their growing limitations and goals. E.g. are you limited on space, do you have the ability to grow in open sunlight, how much are you trying to grow, etc.

I could see why it'd be easy to succumb to the appeal of a one-stop use X, do Y, and you will get Z. Hell, I came close myself after I spent days reading tutorials on here and still had my fair share of failure. I think the more important things that need to be communicated, beyond you can find the info here are:

• There are many ways to grow mushrooms of any type
  
• Any method requires a ton of patience. No, like more patience than that.
  
• You will likely encounter failures, regardless of whether you are experienced or a newbie. Contamination, failure to colonize/fruit, etc. are all challenges that you will encounter. They must just be learned from and persevered through.
  
  

Having said all that, I'm FINALLY seeing mushrooms after having lost a handful of batches. I tried a few invitro bag grows, which all failed. I then had some grain jar contamination. I also botched a half a dozen petri dish cultures. (Needless to say, I kind of assembled as much knowledge as I could and jumped head first, vs just following the PFTEK and taking baby steps).

Anyway, it's all thanks to the information I read on this site and in a few Paul Stamets' books. Thank you, everyone for the knowledge you've contributed on here and thanks even more to the OG's who patiently answer repetitious noob questions. You guys rock!

For anyone wondering what finally met my needs:
- Golden Teacher MS syringe I made from a spore print
- Pop-corn tek for grain (Consistently grew WAY faster than the birdseed I tried to grow on)
- 50/50 verm/coir substrate with a handful of gympsum
- Shoebox with fan and spray. (Uncased, but I'll probably case it with the next flush).

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