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ridley
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Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)?
#26003728 - 05/20/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I found a spot close to my house where these guys have been growing a lot lately. After doing a little research on mushrooms that grow in Northern Colorado (that's where I live), I think they *might* be shaggy mane (Coprinus comatus). If they are, that means they're edible, and I'd like to try them. However, I want to be absolutely certain before I even consider eating these things. I'm very new to mushroom identification, but i want to get better!
Habitat: I found a few of them growing in mulch in a man-made garden and a few of them growing in plain old grass and dandelions near the same garden. There is one tree in the same grassy field, but it's very far away. The tree is probably an ash of some sort, and the only other plants are grass and dandelions. These were found in Northern Colorado at relatively high elevation (at least a mile above sea level). I don't live in the mountains, but the mountains are only a few miles away from me.
Gills: The gills are black in the mature specimens (I used one of these for the spore print). They're white (almost tan) in the larger, more youthful ones. This is consistent with what I've read about Coprinus comatus. Apparently, the gills turn black with age. Even in the youthful mushrooms that have brown gills, they start to turn black as you get closer to the edge of the cap.
Stem: The stems are about 4.5 inches in length in the largest ones (2.5 inches in the shortest ones), no more than 3/4 inches in diameter. The stems are white, but they bruise black (as you can see clearly in the mature specimen - this is also consistent with my research on Coprinus comatus). The stem had a smooth texture in my hand, not fuzzy or rough at all. I'm not sure whether or not to call the stems hollow. In the picture here, you can clearly see a hole in the middle, which contained a threadlike material (probably mycelium?), but the stems are mostly solid.
Cap: The caps are all conical, but they expand outward as they age. The caps are mostly white, with some brown arch shapes radiating from the center of the top of the cap. The caps are mostly smooth to the touch, with some roughness at the brown spots. The caps are concave, but they spread out as they age (as most mushrooms do).
Spore print color: This is my first spore print! They're definitely black, which is consistent with my research on Coprinus comatus.
Bruising: Black.
Other information: These creatures smell kind of like the Crimini mushrooms you might buy at the super market, but a lot milder. Maybe I'm just hungry while writing this, but I think they smell pretty good.
One other weird thing: I found some red-ish liquid on the stem of one of the ones that were growing in the mulch garden as i picked it. It didn't seem to be coming from inside the mushroom. I almost wonder if it's from the mulch, which has a reddish color to it.
Again, just trying to determine whether or not these are Coprinus comatus (AKA Shaggy Mane). If they are, they'll probably be a part of my dinner this evening. My major concern here is poisoning, so please let me know if there are any poisonous lookalikes. Even if they aren't Coprinus comatus, this was still a fascinating little experience, and I'm excited to keep looking for wild mushrooms this rainy season.
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: ridley]
#26003827 - 05/20/19 04:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, they are Coprinus comatus. That third picture is especially nice.
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ridley
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: Anglerfish]
#26003830 - 05/20/19 04:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks so much, Anglerfish! I'm really excited to try them with some eggs for dinner in an hour. I have them chilling in the fridge right now in some ice water.
RE the third picture, unfortunately that one was taken a few days ago. Those mushrooms are dead now. It is a nice picture, though!
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: ridley]
#26003996 - 05/20/19 05:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think they are past their prime when they start to roll up on the cap margin
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ridley
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: Doc9151]
#26004116 - 05/20/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I only ate the first two in the very first picture (they seemed the freshest). They were very good! I could tell they would be even better if they were more fresh. I didn't have any eggs, so I just wound up cooking them with some pasta. I hope to find some more sometime soon (at least now I know where to look).
Thanks for your help, guys. I know where to come if I need help identifying mushrooms. It's been very rainy in Northern Colorado this month and there are so many mushrooms out there.
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: ridley]
#26004228 - 05/20/19 07:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coprinus has the nick name inky cap ya see why huh lol get em before they ink up and prep them ASAP . Or they goo up
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ridley
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Re: Are these Shaggy Mane (Coprinus comatus)? [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
#26004579 - 05/20/19 11:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hillbillyjohn said: Coprinus has the nick name inky cap ya see why huh lol get em before they ink up and prep them ASAP . Or they goo up
I thought that the inky cap is actually Coprinopsis atramentaria, not Coprinus comatus (or Shaggy Mane). Though, both of these species have been documented to produce the inky goo. I guess that's why people confuse these two species. Coprinus comatus (as long as it's properly cleaned and prepared) is generally safe to eat, but Coprinopsis atramentaria is not safe to eat when consumed with alcohol. This is because inky caps contain coprine, a mycotoxin that causes people to become very sick for several hours when combined with alcohol. Shaggy manes, on the other hand, contain no coprine. I believe you can eat Shaggy Mane with alcohol and you'll be fine. I haven't tried myself, but I don't drink alcohol anyway, so no need for me to worry about that.
I agree about prepping them quickly. I could see the white gills starting to fade just a couple hours after harvesting them. They quickly get past their prime. I didn't even bother cooking the ones that already had black gills. I just used them to make spore prints and threw them away.
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