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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: eieio]
    #26005386 - 05/21/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

these are the ones i should stay away from, but what are some great drugs you consider possible to use in moderation?

I really love opiates are there any safe options other than kratom?

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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #26005394 - 05/21/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Heinrik said:
what are some great drugs you consider possible to use in moderation?



Psychedelics.

Everything else should be handled with extreme caution, IMO.

I've found my life to be a lot better since I've renounced 'hard' drugs.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #26005395 - 05/21/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I really liked ketamine and other disassociatives but they can be really addicting too.. kinda just depends on if you can keep from abusing them.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #26005401 - 05/21/19 12:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Everything except weed and shrooms. And both of those with caution.
I've seen pot smokers almost as bad as heroin addicts with how they search for it. As far as shrooms, they can really confront you with things you don't want to think about


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #26005475 - 05/21/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Heinrik said:

I mean tramadol is an opiate, opiates are a very addictive class of drugs yet I can use it in moderation unlike alcohol.




A relatively small percentage of people who ingest opiates become addicts. Even if the number is as high as 10%, the fact that 9 out of 10 people don't fall in love with the drug should make us question the idea that opiates are addictive and can render people powerless.

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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #26005670 - 05/21/19 02:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Heinrik said:

I mean tramadol is an opiate, opiates are a very addictive class of drugs yet I can use it in moderation unlike alcohol.




A relatively small percentage of people who ingest opiates become addicts. Even if the number is as high as 10%, the fact that 9 out of 10 people don't fall in love with the drug should make us question the idea that opiates are addictive and can render people powerless.






I honestly don't feel any drug is inherently addictive. I feel addiction lays within the person WAAAY more so than the drug. I know physical dependance is something that occurs with opioids, but generally speaking I don't feel "addiction" is something that resides within the drug but rather it's something that's within the person.

What's addictive for one person isn't for another. Sure one can say things that cause a dopamine release/hit the pleasure/reward centers are addictive, but I feel it's far more complex than that....Why have I not become addicted to meth or heroin?


If drugs were inherently addictive...I'd be an alcoholic, a meth-head tweaker, a junky on heroin, and smoking cigarettes everyday....but I'm not, I've dabbled with all those things but have never become addicted to them in anyway.

I've dabbled with pretty much all the common things at one point or another over the years (i'm a curious fella) but I have never used anything regularly and haven't had any issues with addiction.



I feel addiction comes down to the person/individual, their life situation, the reasons why they are using the drug, their self control or lack of self control, and their knowledge about the drug....and doesn't have much to do with the drug specifically.





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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #26005723 - 05/21/19 03:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Alcohol, speed, and benzos wreaked havoc in my life when i was younger. Depends if you have an addictive personality. If you do, i would say to stay away from all substances besides maybe psychedelics. It's playing with fire if you do.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: HeadbandOG]
    #26005791 - 05/21/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

For me I won’t ever do anymore: meth,crack, frequent ketamine use,frequent coke use. Benzodiazepines have been a big blessing for my medical issues and big curse in every other respect has been awful


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26005796 - 05/21/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I really hate ketamine. Shrooms may feel worse sometimes as they hit you over and over, but ketamine feels so empty and bad


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #26005920 - 05/21/19 05:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

anything that has a comedown that is so dark, depressing, and hellish that it makes suicide seems like a decent idea at the time should probably be avoided

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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Nifflerz] * 2
    #26005940 - 05/21/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Anything that doesn’t grow from a seed or spore.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Antigov] * 3
    #26006006 - 05/21/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

what drugs should I tell you to stay away from? thats easy: my drugs! :crankey:


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26006062 - 05/21/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Any one say Datura/scopolamine yet?

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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Dorfnob]
    #26006121 - 05/21/19 07:08 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I would pretty much say stay away from most types if opiates and amphetamines. There are very few opiates that you can get away with using without risking hardcore addiction, kratom being one.

Amphetamines on the other hand I can't think of one that isn't terrible when abused.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: TNK] * 2
    #26006138 - 05/21/19 07:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Datura


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: grati]
    #26006173 - 05/21/19 07:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Datura



One of my biggest curiosities.
What a dark mistress.

Doubt I'll ever have the kahones to try it though.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Dorfnob]
    #26006265 - 05/21/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Dorfnob said:
Any one say Datura/scopolamine yet?




Totally forgot Datura. One guy in ODD said he smoked one dried flower and even that was causing side effect problems. Datura is some serious shit.

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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #26006717 - 05/22/19 03:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I ended up feeling deathly ill for weeks and the worst part of it for me was one of the symptoms was time distortion, a minute literally feel like hours, so I went through weeks of it but it felt like months or years, it felt like it was never going to end.




That also happens to me with opiate withdrawals.  A week of opiate withdrawal feels like it's about 2 months.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: AmericanPsycho] * 1
    #26006719 - 05/22/19 03:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

PCP can be psychologically very unforgiving, plenty of youtube videos to illustrate.


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Re: What drugs would you tell me to stay away from? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26006749 - 05/22/19 04:24 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

In addition to what’s been mentioned I only saw it alluded to but nicotine is a special kind of pain in the ass.  I’m not gonna diss your garden bakky but the Phillip Morris shit is what I would describe as almost evil in its way..:whattefuck2: 

And then factor in how many people pick it up on a whim without any idea what they’re getting into..


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