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Giving da homie shrooms
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I got this depressed friend and Im tryna help him out.
I gave him 1.5 to test the waters but he slept through the first 3 hours of the trip. (the important part) so he only experienced the happy afterglow

dat niga funna be moving away for a few years and this may be the last chance he'll have with shrooms. And I only got em wet rn.

Since this may be the last time he takes mushrooms, I feel like 6g would be a good trip to last a few years. All it takes is 1 good trip and it can change yo life.

Lowkey scared he might kill himself if he has a bad trip doe...

Edited by Da Savage (05/19/19 04:41 AM)

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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1.5 is dipping your toe in the water, 6g's is jumping right into the deep end. not a good idea.

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Dorfnob] * 1
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how about 4 gs

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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probably something you should talk with da homie about and see what level they want to get on and then do a little research on dose/effect.

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Dorfnob]
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1.5 g - 6g is a ridiculous step think about the fact how he experienced nothing on the first trip go 2.5-3g next time, and if that’s not enough if he wants too he can find mushrooms wherever he moves to.

Not everyone is going to completely up and change their life after just 1 psychedelic experience, when you have the experience for the first time it raises more questions than answers, and I feel if you don’t have much understanding after 1 experience (no one does lol) and feel you’d like to go back there’s no reason not too.

To tell you the truth, before your friend moves away you’re probably not going to change his life, unfuck the past who knows how many years, or cure his depression by having him experience mushrooms a couple times. It’s a long road and that’s one small part of it all, if you have no interest in your existence usually, and never think about who “you” really are, where you came from, what’s going on here what we’re all doing, and don’t intend to act on the insights, psychedelics are not going to help you.


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: The lurker]
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The lurker said:
It’s a long road and that’s one small part of it all, if you have no interest in your existence usually, and never think about who “you” really are, where you came from, what’s going on here what we’re all doing, and don’t intend to act on the insights, psychedelics are not going to help you.


Id agree with you for a normal person who has done other drugs

but mushrooms is the first drug he tried. Its all he knows

When people take acid, they try mushrooms with the recreational mentality.
But when you go straight to mushrooms, you go straight to that mentality that you described.

So he's probably on that mindset right now.

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage] * 2
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That’s true and that’ll help, but I’m just saying based off of personal experience, it takes real action by the person involved to create a real change in one’s life especially for this sort of thing involving depression/suicidal tendencies. The mindset might change but it only will temporarily, and it’s very easy to fall back into the same sort of thing you were doing before which will only cause more discouragement until action is taken to actually make a change.

So yeah, one productive psychedelic experience could be all an individual needs, but I don’t think there’s anyone who’s ever made a full on change and has never fallen back into the same sorts of things that led them into having a psychedelic experience in the first place, they could correct it based on the experience, but all the experience will do is give you the vision, it’s all up to the individual. More often than not, follow up experiences have the potential to be more helpful than making changes based off of one or two experiences you’ve had in the past, so believing something like “a single psychedelic experience will change your life” is probably a bit of false hope and it should be stated clearly he’s the one who has to make the changes, not “these mushrooms will change your life brooo”


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: The lurker]
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Na u just haven't had that ONE trip that makes you say.

"Damn there is no trip that could be better"
and your eyes are unfogged and life looks brighter than ever.

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage] * 2
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4 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, and he'll have little to no issues, even with 6 grams. You can give a newbie a full on dose, with Lemon Balm, and the come up is so smooth, not chaotic in the least bit, little to no anxiety, no panic, no real paranoia, and little to no intensity (if you desire, depends on the dosage of Lemon Balm, 3 to 4.5 grams is what i go for). It doesn't take away from the benefits or the higher states of awareness/consciousness or the teachings, but it sure does very much so come in handy for beginners or those who are afraid of a bad trip. Sure, Lemon Balm may make things a bit more recreational in terms of how relaxed and loosey goosey things feel, but set and setting still apply, and so it's what you make of it. Tune out external distractions, maybe listen to some good instrumental music or something with headphones, lay down and close your eyes and go within, have your experience, that's the way i do it.

Trust me on this, no matter what anyone says or may believe, Lemon Balm, although seemingly mild on it's own, really shines when mixed with a Psychedelic, it's so noticeably obvious and i've given it to newbies with Ayahuasca, and Psilohuasca, and 4-ACO-DMT, and with the Lemon Balm in the mix, no one has had any problems, even with high/heavy dosages of the Huasca, especially oral DMT which is surprising considering how intense and fucking powerful it is, but with Lemon Balm, it becomes very user-friendly and quite tolerable/manageable. Sure, you could go for a lower dosage of mushrooms, like 4 to 5 grams, 2 to 3.5 imo is kind of a waste unless mixed with Harmalas/Rue/Caapi, which, Psilohuasca is definitely worth investigating imo, and can get away with 2 to 3.5 grams and a good dose of Rue/Harmalas and have a pretty full on experience, and of course, with some Lemon Balm added, it's smooth sailing, i tell ya. My gf and a few of my friends can attest to that. I gave one friend some Aya one time without any Lemon Balm, scared him shitless lol, thought he'd been poisoned and didn't know what the fuck was going on, but with Lemon Balm, didn't have any issues even with the same dosage of the Aya. Oral DMT is by far way more intense/powerful than mushrooms/Psilocin, and Lemon Balm cuts through that tension and intensity like a hot knife through butter, and so it's no issue at all when it comes to Psilocin, Psilocin is a good bit less intense and more relaxed compared to oral DMT, so with Lemon Balm in the mix, Psilocin is ultra freakin' smooth.

Don't believe me, try it for yourself and report back perhaps. You want 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, steep the dried leaves (or tea bags, but i've always used the actual dried loose leaf and weighed it out on a gram scale) in a cup of hot water for about 15 to 20 minutes, then filter/strain it through a coffee filter or something, add a bit of sugar or honey, drink while warm at the same time as taking the mushrooms, and there ya go.


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Edited by Sabnock (05/19/19 01:09 PM)

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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Da Savage said:
Na u just haven't had that ONE trip that makes you say.

"Damn there is no trip that could be better"
and your eyes are unfogged and life looks brighter than ever.


Bold of you to assume :lol:


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Sabnock]
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Sabnock said:
4 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, and he'll have little to no issues, even with 6 grams. You can give a newbie a full on dose, with Lemon Balm, and the come up is so smooth, not chaotic in the least bit, little to no anxiety, no panic, no real paranoia,


u tweakin dawg
tea comes up quicker

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Sabnock] * 2
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Sabnock said:
4 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, and he'll have little to no issues, even with 6 grams. You can give a newbie a full on dose, with Lemon Balm, and the come up is so smooth, not chaotic in the least bit, little to no anxiety, no panic, no real paranoia, and little to no intensity (if you desire, depends on the dosage of Lemon Balm, 3 to 4.5 grams is what i go for). It doesn't take away from the benefits or the higher states of awareness/consciousness or the teachings, but it sure does very much so come in handy for beginners or those who are afraid of a bad trip. Sure, Lemon Balm may make things a bit more recreational in terms of how relaxed and loosey goosey things feel, but set and setting still apply, and so it's what you make of it. Tune out external distractions, maybe listen to some good instrumental music or something with headphones, lay down and close your eyes and go within, have your experience, that's the way i do it.

Trust me on this, no matter what anyone says or may believe, Lemon Balm, although seemingly mild on it's own, really shines when mixed with a Psychedelic, it's so noticeably obvious and i've given it to newbies with Ayahuasca, and Psilohuasca, and with the Lemon Balm in the mix, no one has had any problems, even with high/heavy dosages of the Huasca, especially oral DMT which is surprising considering how intense and fucking powerful it is, but with Lemon Balm, it becomes very user-friendly and quite tolerable/manageable. Sure, you could go for a lower dosage of mushrooms, like 4 to 5 grams, 2 to 3.5 imo is kind of a waste unless mixed with Harmalas/Rue/Caapi, which, Psilohuasca is definitely worth investigating imo, and can get away with 2 to 3.5 grams and a good dose of Rue/Harmalas and have a pretty full on experience, and of course, with some Lemon Balm added, it's smooth sailing, i tell ya. My gf and a few of my friends can attest to that. I gave one friend some Aya one time without any Lemon Balm, scared him shitless lol, thought he'd been poisoned and didn't know what the fuck was going on, but with Lemon Balm, didn't have any issues even with the same dosage of the Aya. Oral DMT is by far way more intense/powerful than mushrooms/Psilocin, and Lemon Balm cuts through that tension and intensity like a hot knife through butter, and so it's no issue at all when it comes to Psilocin, Psilocin is a good bit less intense and more relaxed compared to oral DMT, so with Lemon Balm in the mix, Psilocin is ultra freakin' smooth.

Don't believe me, try it for yourself and report back perhaps. You want 3 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, steep the dried leaves (or tea bags, but i've always used the actual dried loose leaf and weighed it out on a gram scale) in a cup of hot water for about 15 to 20 minutes, then filter/strain it through a coffee filter or something, add a bit of sugar or honey, drink while warm at the same time as taking the mushrooms, and there ya go.


I started growing lemon balm because of your posts! Am excited to harvest some soon and try it out :yesnod:


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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Da Savage said:
Sabnock said:
4 to 4.5 grams of dried Lemon Balm leaf tea, and he'll have little to no issues, even with 6 grams. You can give a newbie a full on dose, with Lemon Balm, and the come up is so smooth, not chaotic in the least bit, little to no anxiety, no panic, no real paranoia,


u tweakin dawg
tea comes up quicker


Even with mushroom tea, the intensity will still be reduced, anxiety and panic relieved, and the come up so smooth. I used to make Acacia, and Mimosa teas, and would include Lemon Balm with them, and it still smoothed out the intense come up. So tea or actual mushrooms doesn't matter, Lemon Balm shines regardless. And the Lemon Balm tea, lasts for hours, so pretty much the entire experience.


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Sabnock]
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once u add da lemon balm
its no longer da OG mushroom experience

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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Da Savage said:
once u add da lemon balm
its no longer da OG mushroom experience


How do you know, if you've never tried it? Idk what you consider to be OG experience, but i assure you, even with Lemon Balm, the stuff is freakin' godly and insanely mystical/spiritual, at least it has been for me. And still plenty visual, plenty expanding, hardcore awesome amazing shit, just smooth sailing. Sure, the intensity and "holy shit" overwhelming nature of the unaltered/unflavored come up is worth experiencing imo, especially with the oral DMT, that shit is intense as all hell lol, but i think more people would benefit from these tools if they were more user friendly and smoother, less hectic, but still provides the benefits and therapeutic/medicinal/spiritual aspects. It just helps calm the mind, relax the body, raise the spirit, and reduces the intensity, so it doesn't detract or take away from the actual benefits, just makes it easier for people to obtain those benefits and have these life changing experiences without all the dreadful fear and hesitation that can go along with it because of the drastic change in consciousness during the come up.


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Sabnock]
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Also, as far as mushroom tea goes, you could also just drink the tea more slowly, like sip on it over say 10, 15 to 20 minutes, and the come up will be gentler compared to chugging/drinking it all down as quickly as possible. I learned that with my Acacia teas. It's so cool though how you can tinker with things and change things more to your own liking rather than thinking it's a one size fits all approach, a lot of people just take the basic Psychedelic and think that's all there is, but when you get into flavoring and altering it with like plants or oils or supplements or even other Psychedelics, things can get a lot more interesting when synergy is involved, therefore customizing the Psychedelic tool more specifically for you and your needs, rather than just consuming the basic Psychedelic on it's own, you can get so much more out of it that way.


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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Sabnock] * 1
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I gave him like ~50-70gs wet.
Told him to eat em
tonight

Everybody bless up

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage] * 1
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Bless up

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: FleeceManeLion]
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Lemon seems to really bring out ALL the actives/alkaloids in my plants in their raw form. Obviously the acidity of the pH has a role, but there also seems to be something more with organic lemons, or, in your use, lemon balm.

Everyone has a unique mental build to some degree thus the uniqueness of the effects, and in some everything can change in the blink of an eye. You never know how deeply any one moment will effect; sometimes you get it when you need it most.

I say do it with him in a positive, private (preferably in nature, with/on living things) setting.


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Oxygen. Water. Neil Young

Our word "planet" comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning "wanderer."

"There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: O_Dweeds]
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He took dem shits

Mushrooms is his first drug btw

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage] * 1
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Just talked to him

best night of his life

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Re: Giving da homie shrooms [Re: Da Savage]
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And..... how did this go lol


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