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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25998318 - 05/17/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Yangs not for free college because he recognizes that about 45 percent of college goers don't finish there degree in six years.



Apparently Yang doesn't realize that many people drop out of college because they simply can't afford it.
Cost is certainly a factor but with his plan to force schools cut administrative bloat he would deny them federal funding to do this. This would decrease tuition and with a UBI a state school becomes very affordable even for the poorest person. On top of that you would still have pell grants and scholarships the skies the limit.

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He does have plans to forgive student debt and find ways to cut administrative bloat a primary cause for skyrocketing tuitions.



Now I'm really confused.  Why does he want to forgive student debt but not make public college free?  Sure, everyone wants to reduce the cost of college, but saying that means nothing.
By reducing useless administrator postions and forcing colleges to operate more efficiently this brings down tuition. Making college tution free full stop would be incredibly wasteful if it was for every degree the college offered. Many college graduates end up in jobs that do not require the degree in the first place. Now if you were to make tuition free for useful college degrees like engineering and medicine that would be a good use of funds.
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Yang also wants more Americans to learn valuable trades compared to other European nations we have a very low participation rate in the trade industry.



So does Bernie.
Thats good I believe the US has like 8 percent or something in trade and technical schools and in Germany its much higher. Those are good careers.
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The fetishization of a college degree is old thinking that no longer applies in the 21st century.



Does Yang actually believe that, or is that your two cents?
Thats my opinion but its true pushing so many students into college and claiming its a magic get of being poor card is a bad policy. College is one of many paths to be successful and right now the education system does not teach that and it should.





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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #25998322 - 05/17/19 04:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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IQ accurately predicts who will do well in school and work, and who will not. Countries and people with low average iq’s have low time preference, high crime rate, high rape rate, low deferred gratification, high std rate, low marriage rate and high rate of violence.



That has more to do with poverty and poverty has been shown to reduce IQ. Raise the standard of living and meet peoples needs and watch the society improve.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: YangSupporter]
    #25998334 - 05/17/19 04:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

This is old news mate. Genetics plays a significant if not insurmountable role in peoples plights in life. Religiosity, sexual orientation, political preference and IQ.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #25998338 - 05/17/19 04:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

This is old news mate. Genetics plays a significant if not insurmountable role in peoples plights in life. Religiosity, sexual orientation, political preference and IQ.



I question the scientific accuracy of that "study" it seems highly suspect. From my experience people are more likely to be violent when they are backed into a corner usually that means growing up in poverty. When survival is all you think about it is very likely that your intelligence is not going to be performing at peak efficiency.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA] * 2
    #25998340 - 05/17/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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IQ accurately predicts who will do well in school and work, and who will not. Countries and people with low average iq’s have low time preference, high crime rate, high rape rate, low deferred gratification, high std rate, low marriage rate and high rate of violence.




People I shoot in the face have a high rate of bleeding and dying.

Ergo I’m shooting all the people who are gonna die.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25998539 - 05/17/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

are we talking about iq or killing people?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

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] Intelligence in the normal range is a polygenic trait, meaning that it is influenced by more than one gene,[3][4] more specifically, over 500, and is thought to be 50% to 80% genetic in origin.[5][not in citation given]

The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%[6] with some more-recent estimates as high as 80%[7] and 86%.[8] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood. This phenomenon is known as the Wilson Effect.[9] Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[10] however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.[11][12]





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
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The British psychologist Charles Spearman in 1904 made the first formal factor analysis of correlations between the tests. He observed that children's school grades across seemingly unrelated school subjects were positively correlated, and reasoned that these correlations reflected the influence of an underlying general mental ability that entered into performance on all kinds of mental tests. He suggested that all mental performance could be conceptualized in terms of a single general ability factor and a large number of narrow task-specific ability factors. Spearman named it g for "general factor" and labeled the specific factors or abilities for specific tasks s. In any collection of test items that make up an IQ test, the score that best measures g is the composite score that has the highest correlations with all the item scores. Typically, the "g-loaded" composite score of an IQ test battery appears to involve a common strength in abstract reasoning across the test's item content. Therefore, Spearman and others have regarded g as closely related to the essence of human intelligence.[citation needed]

Spearman's argument proposing a general factor of human intelligence is still accepted, in principle, to be the most important construct to intelligence by many psychometricians, though none would say that it is all there is to intelligence. Today's factor models of intelligence typically represent cognitive abilities as a three-level hierarchy, where there are a large number of narrow factors at the bottom of the hierarchy, a handful of broad, more general factors at the intermediate level, and at the apex a single factor, referred to as the g factor, which represents the variance common to all cognitive tasks.




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Social correlations
School performance
The American Psychological Association's report Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns states that wherever it has been studied, children with high scores on tests of intelligence tend to learn more of what is taught in school than their lower-scoring peers. The correlation between IQ scores and grades is about .50. This means that the explained variance is 25%. Achieving good grades depends on many factors other than IQ, such as "persistence, interest in school, and willingness to study" (p. 81).[9]

It has been found that the correlation of IQ scores with school performance depends on the IQ measurement used. For undergraduate students, the Verbal IQ as measured by WAIS-R has been found to correlate significantly (0.53) with the grade point average (GPA) of the last 60 hours (credits). In contrast, Performance IQ correlation with the same GPA was only 0.22 in the same study.[107]

Some measures of educational aptitude correlate highly with IQ tests – for instance, Frey and Detterman (2004) reported a correlation of 0.82 between g (general intelligence factor) and SAT scores;[108] another research found a correlation of 0.81 between g and GCSE scores, with the explained variance ranging "from 58.6% in Mathematics and 48% in English to 18.1% in Art and Design".[109]

Job performance
According to Schmidt and Hunter, "for hiring employees without previous experience in the job the most valid predictor of future performance is general mental ability."[110] The validity of IQ as a predictor of job performance is above zero for all work studied to date, but varies with the type of job and across different studies, ranging from 0.2 to 0.6.[111] The correlations were higher when the unreliability of measurement methods was controlled for.[9] While IQ is more strongly correlated with reasoning and less so with motor function,[112] IQ-test scores predict performance ratings in all occupations.[110] That said, for highly qualified activities (research, management) low IQ scores are more likely to be a barrier to adequate performance, whereas for minimally-skilled activities, athletic strength (manual strength, speed, stamina, and coordination) are more likely to influence performance.[110] The prevailing view among academics is that it is largely through the quicker acquisition of job-relevant knowledge that higher IQ mediates job performance. This view has been challenged by Byington & Felps (2010), who argued that "the current applications of IQ-reflective tests allow individuals with high IQ scores to receive greater access to developmental resources, enabling them to acquire additional capabilities over time, and ultimately perform their jobs better."[113]

In establishing a causal direction to the link between IQ and work performance, longitudinal studies by Watkins and others suggest that IQ exerts a causal influence on future academic achievement, whereas academic achievement does not substantially influence future IQ scores.[114] Treena Eileen Rohde and Lee Anne Thompson write that general cognitive ability, but not specific ability scores, predict academic achievement, with the exception that processing speed and spatial ability predict performance on the SAT math beyond the effect of general cognitive ability.[115]

The US military has minimum enlistment standards at about the IQ 85 level. There have been two experiments with lowering this to 80 but in both cases these men could not master soldiering well enough to justify their costs.[116]

Income
While it has been suggested that "in economic terms it appears that the IQ score measures something with decreasing marginal value. It is important to have enough of it, but having lots and lots does not buy you that much",[117][118] large-scale longitudinal studies indicate an increase in IQ translates into an increase in performance at all levels of IQ: i.e. ability and job performance are monotonically linked at all IQ levels.[119][120] Charles Murray, coauthor of The Bell Curve, found that IQ has a substantial effect on income independent of family background.[121]

The link from IQ to wealth is much less strong than that from IQ to job performance. Some studies indicate that IQ is unrelated to net worth.[122][123]

The American Psychological Association's 1995 report Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns stated that IQ scores accounted for (explained variance) about a quarter of the social status variance and one-sixth of the income variance. Statistical controls for parental SES eliminate about a quarter of this predictive power. Psychometric intelligence appears as only one of a great many factors that influence social outcomes.[9]

In a meta-analysis, Strenze (2006) reviewed much of the literature and estimated the correlation between IQ and income to be about 0.23.[124]

Some studies claim that IQ only accounts for (explains) a sixth of the variation in income because many studies are based on young adults, many of whom have not yet reached their peak earning capacity, or even their education. On pg 568 of The g Factor, Arthur Jensen claims that although the correlation between IQ and income averages a moderate 0.4 (one sixth or 16% of the variance), the relationship increases with age, and peaks at middle age when people have reached their maximum career potential. In the book, A Question of Intelligence, Daniel Seligman cites an IQ income correlation of 0.5 (25% of the variance).

A 2002 study[125] further examined the impact of non-IQ factors on income and concluded that an individual's location, inherited wealth, race, and schooling are more important as factors in determining income than IQ.

Crime
The American Psychological Association's 1996 report Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns stated that the correlation between IQ and crime was −0.2. It was −0.19 between IQ scores and number of juvenile offenses in a large Danish sample; with social class controlled, the correlation dropped to −0.17. A correlation of 0.20 means that the explained variance is 4%. The causal links between psychometric ability and social outcomes may be indirect. Children with poor scholastic performance may feel alienated. Consequently, they may be more likely to engage in delinquent behavior, compared to other children who do well.[9]

In his book The g Factor (1998), Arthur Jensen cited data which showed that, regardless of race, people with IQs between 70 and 90 have higher crime rates than people with IQs below or above this range, with the peak range being between 80 and 90.

The 2009 Handbook of Crime Correlates stated that reviews have found that around eight IQ points, or 0.5 SD, separate criminals from the general population, especially for persistent serious offenders. It has been suggested that this simply reflects that "only dumb ones get caught" but there is similarly a negative relation between IQ and self-reported offending. That children with conduct disorder have lower IQ than their peers "strongly argues" for the theory.[126]

A study of the relationship between US county-level IQ and US county-level crime rates found that higher average IQs were associated with lower levels of property crime, burglary, larceny rate, motor vehicle theft, violent crime, robbery, and aggravated assault. These results were not "confounded by a measure of concentrated disadvantage that captures the effects of race, poverty, and other social disadvantages of the county."[127][128]

Health and mortality
Multiple studies conducted in Scotland have found that higher IQs in early life are associated with lower mortality and morbidity rates later in life.[129][130]




iq is 50%-80% heritable, it predicts your job attainment, educational outcome, proclivity to drug use, proclivity to committing crime, proclivity to engage in unsafe sex. Its false to say an iq test tests for intelligence. it tests for abstract thinking ability and g factor to be exact, which are large components of intelligence as a whole.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #25998797 - 05/17/19 09:19 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

[not in citation given]


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #25999418 - 05/18/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Thats reality. Whites and asians have thr highest sat/act scores which corresponds with their iq test hierarchy.
These graphs are from the people behind the adversity score college admission affirmative action.





Asians are so far ahead of whites in mean SAT scores they don't even have room to show the right tail of the normal curve.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Brian Jones] * 3
    #25999482 - 05/18/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Here’s another graph.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25999497 - 05/18/19 08:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Here’s another graph.






That's a good one. At the bottom right, lowest IQ and highest religiosity there is the most concentrated grouping of scores.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26000726 - 05/18/19 10:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-religious-countries/

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Rounding out the top 10 nations based on this data are:

China
Japan
Estonia
Sweden
Norway
Czech Republic
Hong Kong
Netherlands
Israel
United Kingdom




thanks for reinforcing my point that asians and whites have the highest iq. :rofl: 
sweden isnt going to stay non religious nor will uk due to birth rates of muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country
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the most religious countries

Djibouti 98% 2%
Mauritania 98% 2%
Sri Lanka 99% 1%
Malawi         99% 1%
Indonesia 99% 1%
Yemen         99% 1%
Niger         100%    0%
Ethiopia 100% 0%
Somalia[a] 100% 0%
Bangladesh 100% 0%





by mycolorados graph what hes saying is africans and middle easterners are the low iq.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26000821 - 05/19/19 12:50 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Yang doesn't realize that many people drop out of college because they simply can't afford it.



Cost is certainly a factor but with his plan to force schools cut administrative bloat he would deny them federal funding to do this. This would decrease tuition and with a UBI a state school becomes very affordable even for the poorest person. On top of that you would still have pell grants and scholarships the skies the limit.



He says he wants to reduce administrative bloat, but who doesn't want to?  What's his plan to do it?

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Why does he want to forgive student debt but not make public college free?



By reducing useless administrator postions and forcing colleges to operate more efficiently this brings down tuition.



What useless positions do colleges have?  How can they operate more efficiently?  This means absolutely nothing without a plan.

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Making college tution free full stop would be incredibly wasteful if it was for every degree the college offered. Many college graduates end up in jobs that do not require the degree in the first place. Now if you were to make tuition free for useful college degrees like engineering and medicine that would be a good use of funds.



What degrees do you think are wasteful?  While some degrees won't earn people as much money, I'm not aware of any that are wasteful.

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...its true pushing so many students into college and claiming its a magic get of being poor card is a bad policy.



Statistics show you are wrong:


Changes in Real Wage Levels of Full-Time U.S. Workers by Education, 1963 – 2012


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26000858 - 05/19/19 01:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

thats missing the point. there are tons of students dropping out every year wasting their money on something they shouldnt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickhess/2018/06/06/the-college-dropout-problem/#3a2001f25fd2

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How common is this? In a word: very. In 2016, more than 48% of first-time, full-time students who started at a four-year college six years earlier had not yet earned a degree. For these schools, the four-year completion rate—that is, the share of students who complete a bachelor’s degree in the time the program is expected to take—is just 28%. Put another way, nearly 2 million students who begin college each year will drop out before earning a diploma. The picture at community colleges is no better. At public two-year colleges, only about 26% of full-time, first-time students complete their degree within three years.

Lackluster completion rates yield significant costs. Students wind up burdened by debt, waste their time, and see their expected earnings markedly reduced. Taxpayers wind up shelling out for grants and subsidies that go to waste, and for federal loans that are unlikely to get repaid. (For more on the numbers, check out the new set of papers issued jointly by the education teams at the American Enterprise Institute and Third Way, at Elevating College Completion.)




academia isnt for everyone and the quality of schools is dropping fast.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #26001032 - 05/19/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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JHOVA said:
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-religious-countries/

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Rounding out the top 10 nations based on this data are:

China
Japan
Estonia
Sweden
Norway
Czech Republic
Hong Kong
Netherlands
Israel
United Kingdom




thanks for reinforcing my point that asians and whites have the highest iq. :rofl: 
sweden isnt going to stay non religious nor will uk due to birth rates of muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country
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the most religious countries

Djibouti 98% 2%
Mauritania 98% 2%
Sri Lanka 99% 1%
Malawi         99% 1%
Indonesia 99% 1%
Yemen         99% 1%
Niger         100%    0%
Ethiopia 100% 0%
Somalia[a] 100% 0%
Bangladesh 100% 0%





by mycolorados graph what hes saying is africans and middle easterners are the low iq.




Actually my point was that that you were being statistically inaccurate in lumping Asians together with whites, since by the metric you were discussing Asians are far superior. But thanks for pointing out that the Czechs (my people) are extremely high on the white people list. I can understand Norway and Sweden being higher. Those are two of my absolute  favorite socialist democracies. I question Estonia being the highest on the white people list. I mean WTF is up with that. But I'm not an authority on Estonia so I will defer.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Mycolorado] * 2
    #26001034 - 05/19/19 06:51 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Here’s another graph.






Not sure how helpful graphs are, but here are some more




To me, the most interesting factor appears to be the level of disagreement on how important religion/god is in Singapore
tho the discrepancy strikes me as a bit backwards as Singapore's largest religion is Buddhism
so having them rate higher on the "belief in god" scale than in the general religiosity scale throws me for a bit of a loop

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    Intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma.
    Intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs.
    Intelligent people may have less need for religious beliefs and practices.

Studies comparing religious belief and IQ

In a 2013 meta-analysis of 63 studies, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, a negative relationship between religiosity and IQ was particularly strong when assessing beliefs (which in their view reflects intrinsic religiosity) but the negative effects were less when comparing with behavior (such as church going). They note limitations on this since viewing intrinsic religiosity as being about religious beliefs represents American Protestantism more than Judaism or Catholicism, both of which see behavior as just as important as religious beliefs. They also noted that the available data did not allow adequate consideration of the role of religion type and of culture in assessing the relationship between religion and intelligence. Most of the studies reviewed were American and 87% participants in those studies were from the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. They noted “Clearly, the present results are limited to Western societies.” The meta-analysis discussed three possible explanations: First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma, however this theory was contradicted in mostly atheist societies such as the Scandinavian populations, where the religiosity-IQ relationship still existed. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, Intelligent people may have less need for religious beliefs and practices, as some of the functions of religiosity can be given by intelligence instead. Such functions include the presentation of a sense that the world is orderly and predictable, a sense of personal control and self-regulation and a sense of enhancing self esteem and belongingness.



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Researcher Helmuth Nyborg and Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, compared belief in God and IQs.[3] Using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that the average IQ of atheists was 6 points higher than the average IQ of non-atheists. The authors also investigated the link between belief in a god and average national IQs 137 countries. (For the purposes of this article, it should be noted that ‘belief in a god’ does not correlate with ‘religiosity’. Some nations have high proportions of people who do not believe in a god, but who may nevertheless be highly religious, following non-theistic belief systems such as Buddhism or Taoism.) The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be “highly statistically significant”.[3]

The Lynn et al. paper findings were discussed by Professor Gordon Lynch, from London’s Birkbeck College, who expressed concern that the study failed to take into account a complex range of social, economic and historical factors, each of which has been shown to interact with religion and IQ in different ways.[4] Gallup surveys, for example, have found that the world’s poorest countries are consistently the most religious, perhaps because religion plays a more functional role (helping people cope) in poorer nations.[5] Even at the scale of the individual, IQ may not directly cause more disbelief in gods. Dr. David Hardman of London Metropolitan University says: “It is very difficult to conduct true experiments that would explicate a causal relationship between IQ and religious belief.” He adds that other studies do nevertheless correlate IQ with being willing or able to question beliefs.[4]

Other correlations between national IQs and other factors are available, Richard Lynn and Vanhanen claimed that national IQs are correlated with per capita income at a correlation of .73. However, when long GDP (1975 – 2003) were used, the correlations increased to .82 for 81 nations.[52] Further study confirmed the results for 185 countries (r =.65)[53] and for 152 countries (r =.76).[54]

According to biopsychologist Nigel Barber, the differences in IQ between atheists and religious people by countries is better explained by social, environmental, and wealth conditions than by levels of religiosity. He notes that countries with more wealth and better resources usually have more atheists and countries that have less wealth and resources have less atheists. For instance, countries that have poverty, low urbanization, lower levels of education, less exposure to electronic media that increase intelligence, experience diseases that impair brain function, low birth weights, child malnutrition, poor control of pollutants like lead, have more issues that reduce brain and IQ development than do wealthier or more developed countries.[55]

Researcher Gregory S. Paul suggests that economic development has a closer relationship with religiosity.[56] He argues that once any “nation’s population becomes prosperous and secure, for example through economic security and universal health care, much of the population loses interest in seeking the aid and protection of supernatural entities.” Other studies have shown that increased wealth is correlated with a decline in religious beliefs.[57][58] Indeed, the majority of the nations that showed a strong relationship between low religiosity and high IQ in the 2008 study were developed nations.[3]



http://www.thechristianmyth.com/religion-vs-iq/

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Why are you a Christian?
Top 5 Answers:

1.”Because my parents are Christian” 87%

2.”Because my friends are Christian” 3%

3.”Because I went to a Christian school” 2%

4.”Because I found God at Alcoholics Anonymous” 2%

5.”Because I found God while I was incarcerated” 2%

If you were born in Afghanistan, you would most likely be a Muslim, If you were born in India, you would most likely be a Hindu.





http://www.thechristianmyth.com/why-christianity/

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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26001038 - 05/19/19 06:55 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Actually my point was that that you were being statistically inaccurate in lumping Asians together with whites, ...




Asians r white and Andrew Yang is a proud White Nationalist like this dude:

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Asante said:
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It mystifies me how it chooses an entheogens forum of all places to manifest itself.









At a guess,
being brought up with an education system
that effectively teaches Psychedelics and Naziism to be socially taboo
that people feel more likely to have uncharacteristic ideas accepted here

perhaps when we reach a point where psychedelics move into the realm of acceptance
similar to how cannabis has
that maybe people will feel prejudiced ideas to be less welcome

tho my guess on this mostly stems from how socially isolated individuals
sometimes end up seeking group approval in the wrong places

https://nextshark.com/hank-yoo-meet-the-wannabe-asian-cowboy-who-wants-to-murder-blm-activists-and-muslims/







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Based on his caption hes certainly patriotic yet he also wants to kill Americans that are Jewish or Muslim, must be a complex dude.




He is just into White Power


article is kind of interesting tho,
talks about abuse growing up and college hazing rituals and stuff
him being anti-immigrant and everything,
and how he is adamant about White Power tho other people in the White Power sphere look down on him anyway



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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #26001056 - 05/19/19 07:22 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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thats missing the point. there are tons of students dropping out every year wasting their money on something they shouldnt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickhess/2018/06/06/the-college-dropout-problem/#3a2001f25fd2

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How common is this? In a word: very. In 2016, more than 48% of first-time, full-time students who started at a four-year college six years earlier had not yet earned a degree. For these schools, the four-year completion rate—that is, the share of students who complete a bachelor’s degree in the time the program is expected to take—is just 28%. Put another way, nearly 2 million students who begin college each year will drop out before earning a diploma. The picture at community colleges is no better. At public two-year colleges, only about 26% of full-time, first-time students complete their degree within three years.

Lackluster completion rates yield significant costs. Students wind up burdened by debt, waste their time, and see their expected earnings markedly reduced. Taxpayers wind up shelling out for grants and subsidies that go to waste, and for federal loans that are unlikely to get repaid. (For more on the numbers, check out the new set of papers issued jointly by the education teams at the American Enterprise Institute and Third Way, at Elevating College Completion.)




academia isnt for everyone and the quality of schools is dropping fast.




I agree with you that lots of students are wasting their time on things they shouldn't. I include myself on that list. I kept going to grad school because they kept paying me to do it, and I wasn't that concerned with making real money at the time. I agree that academia isn't for everyone. But when you say the quality of schools is dropping fast, that is only true at the bottom end. High and medium high level colleges are as good or better than they ever have been. But there has been a huge expansion of higher education since roughly 1970. Also compared to Europe, the American system does a very poor job of matching educational credentials with jobs that need filling. At the University of Illinois, a medium high level school, there was about 120 majors and about 20 of them were marketable.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26001578 - 05/19/19 01:14 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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JHOVA said:
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-religious-countries/

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Rounding out the top 10 nations based on this data are:

China
Japan
Estonia
Sweden
Norway
Czech Republic
Hong Kong
Netherlands
Israel
United Kingdom




thanks for reinforcing my point that asians and whites have the highest iq. :rofl: 
sweden isnt going to stay non religious nor will uk due to birth rates of muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country
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the most religious countries

Djibouti 98% 2%
Mauritania 98% 2%
Sri Lanka 99% 1%
Malawi         99% 1%
Indonesia 99% 1%
Yemen         99% 1%
Niger         100%    0%
Ethiopia 100% 0%
Somalia[a] 100% 0%
Bangladesh 100% 0%





by mycolorados graph what hes saying is africans and middle easterners are the low iq.




Actually my point was that that you were being statistically inaccurate in lumping Asians together with whites, since by the metric you were discussing Asians are far superior. But thanks for pointing out that the Czechs (my people) are extremely high on the white people list. I can understand Norway and Sweden being higher. Those are two of my absolute  favorite socialist democracies. I question Estonia being the highest on the white people list. I mean WTF is up with that. But I'm not an authority on Estonia so I will defer.



Hey! I'm czech as well!


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: YangSupporter] * 1
    #26001582 - 05/19/19 01:14 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Wait till jhova learns about phrenology.


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Re: Andrew Yang the democrat nobody is talking about but probably should. [Re: JHOVA]
    #26002598 - 05/20/19 12:00 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Yangs not for free college because he recognizes that about 45 percent of college goers don't finish there degree in six years.



Apparently Yang doesn't realize that many people drop out of college because they simply can't afford it.
He also doesn't realize that top universities have very good graduation rates, and if public universities were free, they would be very competitive and highly rated.



thats missing the point. there are tons of students dropping out every year wasting their money on something they shouldnt.

In 2016, more than 48% of first-time, full-time students who started at a four-year college six years earlier had not yet earned a degree.



As I said, free college would only be for public schools which would become very competitive because they are free.  And the graduation rate at top colleges is very high.

Bernie isn't trying to send everyone to college.  He only wants to send the best.


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