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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: 2Experimental]
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2Experimental said:
"Maybe God knew we were going to choose Him because He already knew us. Keep in mind that this presumes that we are all Christians in this discussion"

God IS us... we are the very essence of 'him' so yes, that statement is correct... except the part about being christian... who is to say a druid or catholic does not know god?? Even though many people distort public religion, there are many who would seem blasphemous to the christian religion, who are actually closer to god tha n themselves


I agree with you 100%. I am not judging who does or doesn't know God. When I talk about God, and being a Christian, I am coming from my own perspective, my own beliefs. Don't lump me in with all the other Christians. I am not a fundamentalist. I would also appear to be blasphemous, if they could hear the things I say here (I quit going to church a while ago), yet I love God very much.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: Frog]
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God is nothingess of pure LOVE nothing more nothing less.
Love is infinity. Everyone needs it.
If humans didnt have love for each other ever we wouldnt of passed stone age. ETC

When we make love we 'create' life.
Creating life is a 'GODLY' act. The Sacred of the Sacred.
And if you have sex with a gal for pleasure doesnt the relationship crumble?

Love is the glue that holds everything together.

Hell i call the plane of punishment , god doesnt send you there
you send youself there by sinning. Hell is not eternal.
maybe 50 years at the most.

say you enjoy burning ants.
in hell ants crawl all over you.
But you only had a 60 year life say and 2 years where spent on burning ants . 2 years those ants torment you.

its only Fair!!

need i say anymore?...

P.S. love is caring for others well being etc NOT SEX


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Im not loved because im worthy, Im loved because youre good - Matthew West (Good)

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Edited by OOISI (04/25/04 02:00 AM)

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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: OOISI]
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need i say anymore?...

Hell, yes!  Explain your entire post in the context of anything I said!  :grin:


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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: Frog]
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whoops ... wrong thread
sorry

Does that answer your question???

the correct one was
god and its lack of unconditional love (forgive and judge)
... i think


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Im not loved because im worthy, Im loved because youre good - Matthew West (Good)

You never know, when and where the shrooms will grow.

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Edited by OOISI (04/25/04 02:12 AM)

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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: Frog]
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ok, I am glad you clarrified :grin:

If only the masses could see it this way.

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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: OOISI]
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OOISI said:
whoops ... wrong thread
sorry

Does that answer your question???

the correct one was
god and its lack of unconditional love (forgive and judge)
... i think 


Well, quickly then, be gone!  To the right thread!  :grin:


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Re: God's sovereignty and man's free will [Re: 2Experimental]
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2Experimental said:
I think organized religion can offer many important things to being 'spiritual' but the whole force behind them is twisted and misconstrued... which is why I do not go to church anymore... every where around me is 'church'


Your right man church is the people not the building.


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