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Stem cells
    #25983598 - 05/10/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Ive realized that stem cells therapy is another bullcrap gold mine in the health sector just as circumsiom is!!!


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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #25983608 - 05/10/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting. Here is a CR article from my 1st search. It explains things pretty well.
https://www.consumerreports.org/medical-treatments-procedures/trouble-with-stem-cell-therapy/


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In fact, stem cell treatments are widely accepted only for two broad medical indications: to help treat a handful of blood disorders—including leukemia and some forms of anemia—and in some cases to help burn victims. “Stem cells have taken on this sort of mythic power in people’s minds,” says Sally Temple, Ph.D., a scientist at the Neural Stem Cell Institute in Rensselaer, N.Y. “But there are real limits to what most of these cells can actually do.”

Greedy fuckers will always be greedy low life fuckers, but they do have some use, not to mention the embryo stem cells could be extremely beneficial but due to religious peoples ignorant way of thinking the testing is limited.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25983620 - 05/10/19 09:46 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Interesting. Here is a CR article from my 1st search. It explains things pretty well.
https://www.consumerreports.org/medical-treatments-procedures/trouble-with-stem-cell-therapy/

Greedy fuckers will always be greedy low life fuckers, but they do have some use, not to mention the embryo stem cells could be extremely beneficial but due to religious peoples ignorant way of thinking the testing is limited.




Fuck those religious assholes :crankey:


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Re: Stem cells [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #25983634 - 05/10/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Let me change that to "right to lifer" types, but most if not all of them are probably religious, and probably a bit fanatical if not full blown fanatics.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25983637 - 05/10/19 09:55 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Interesting. Here is a CR article from my 1st search. It explains things pretty well.
https://www.consumerreports.org/medical-treatments-procedures/trouble-with-stem-cell-therapy/


Excerpt:
In fact, stem cell treatments are widely accepted only for two broad medical indications: to help treat a handful of blood disorders—including leukemia and some forms of anemia—and in some cases to help burn victims. “Stem cells have taken on this sort of mythic power in people’s minds,” says Sally Temple, Ph.D., a scientist at the Neural Stem Cell Institute in Rensselaer, N.Y. “But there are real limits to what most of these cells can actually do.”

Greedy fuckers will always be greedy low life fuckers, but they do have some use, not to mention the embryo stem cells could be extremely beneficial but due to religious peoples ignorant way of thinking the testing is limited.




I like the the title. Gonna dig thru that later.
Suffiecient Stems cells occurs naturally during birth. Sadly the accepted standard delivery practice of the health sectors are too blame. Damn we always fuck with nature.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #25983641 - 05/10/19 09:57 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

How do you figure? Stem cell treatment has been shown effective in a variety of treatments.

They work.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25983649 - 05/10/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Let me change that to "right to lifer" types, but most if not all of them are probably religious, and probably a bit fanatical if not full blown fanatics.




Fuck those assholes :crankey:


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Re: Stem cells [Re: Cannabischarlie] * 1
    #25983667 - 05/10/19 10:14 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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How do you figure? Stem cell treatment has been shown effective in a variety of treatments.

They work.




Split opinion though im Not against it and the benifits are evident. Health sectors should fix their procedures 1st.

We are not meant to cut and clamp umbillical cords. Cord circulation continues for 30 min after birth, STEM CELLS, blood and vital nutrients are meant to be pumping into the baby. When the cord is clamped right away, the child usually gasps for air because they where recieving oxygen from the cord. This is why babies can be born underwater and not drown, as they don't need to use their lungs right away. Letting the cord detach on its own , like all animals in the Wild, allows for maximum STEM CELL and blood transfusion to the baby, leading to healthier, more developed babies. This is favors mtdna(mitochondrial eve)

Then whats next? Baby formula, prescription meds, then comes fcking expensive $$stem cells procedures? The health sectors should fix and review their prodedures first and foremost..


https://m.acog.org/Clinical-Guidance-and-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Obstetric-Practice/Delayed-Umbilical-Cord-Clamping-After-Birth


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Re: Stem cells [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #25983720 - 05/10/19 10:41 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Let me change that to "right to lifer" types, but most if not all of them are probably religious, and probably a bit fanatical if not full blown fanatics.




Fuck those assholes :crankey:



And I do like to do that!:smirk:


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Re: Stem cells [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25983726 - 05/10/19 10:42 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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tyrannicalrex said:
Let me change that to "right to lifer" types, but most if not all of them are probably religious, and probably a bit fanatical if not full blown fanatics.




Fuck those assholes :crankey:



And I do like to do that!:smirk:



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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25983738 - 05/10/19 10:47 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Split opinion though im Not against it and the benifits are evident. Health sectors should fix their procedures 1st.

We are not meant to cut and clamp umbillical cords. Cord circulation continues for 30 min after birth, STEM CELLS, blood and vital nutrients are meant to be pumping into the baby. When the cord is clamped right away, the child usually gasps for air because they where recieving oxygen from the cord. This is why babies can be born underwater and not drown, as they don't need to use their lungs right away. Letting the cord detach on its own , like all animals in the Wild, allows for maximum STEM CELL and blood transfusion to the baby, leading to healthier, more developed babies. This is favors mtdna(mitochondrial eve)

Then whats next? Baby formula, prescription meds, then comes fcking expensive $$stem cells procedures? The health sectors should fix and review their prodedures first and foremost..


https://m.acog.org/Clinical-Guidance-and-Publications/Committee-Opinions/Committee-on-Obstetric-Practice/Delayed-Umbilical-Cord-Clamping-After-Birth




According to the very link you posted, delayed cord clamping is recommended. I'm not following, are you suggesting a further delay?


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: Stem cells [Re: badchad] * 1
    #25983743 - 05/10/19 10:52 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

This may be it:

The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists also recommends deferring umbilical cord clamping for healthy term and preterm infants for at least 2 minutes after birth. Additionally, the American College of Nurse–Midwives recommends delayed umbilical cord clamping for term and preterm infants for 2–5 minutes after birth (6)


Looks like he is suggesting a 30 minute delay instead.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25983745 - 05/10/19 10:52 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

:jacked:


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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25983756 - 05/10/19 10:58 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

My aunt was cured of cancer with magical stem cells.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #25983780 - 05/10/19 11:12 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Stem cells is magical specially for all of us who didnt recieve it fully during birth.

Tyrann is right it need altest 30 min.
My peers observe a mentally impaired lady giving birth to a child a long the street holding a stone, not allowed help and done it solo. She chewed the cord after an hour as soon as she gained strength from the delivery.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25983790 - 05/10/19 11:19 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

primates clean and eat the amniotic sacks 1st with fully attached cord. This normally last around >15-20 min for the smaller life forms where they eventually eat both placenta and cord. Afterwards.



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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #25983845 - 05/10/19 11:48 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

So do some american Indians to this day, at least in my clinical in L&D in SE Oklahoma they do.


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Re: Stem cells [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25983866 - 05/10/19 11:58 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Nice to hear that 30min is being applied to this date i  other parts.

They eat the sack & placenta aswell? Although its gross i think the wild also beneifits from it being full of stemcells.


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    #25983878 - 05/10/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

i harvest aborted fetuses.

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Re: Stem cells [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25983895 - 05/10/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

OK is a different world man. There were a couple of men that made me leave the delivery room because they didn't want me seeing their wife naked, lol.


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