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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: Patlal] 1
#25980229 - 05/08/19 04:41 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Patlal said: The US is so fucked up... Penalizing someone for what he does in his free time. Where's that freedom you guys keep yelling about?
the US isnt doing anything. private companies within the US are. they have the human right to freedom of association and are allowed to hire who they want. the government isnt forcing anyone to get drug tested to get a job. but if you want to sell your labour you have to accept the employers terms. when you take a job you enter into a voluntary agreement.
if you dont see the difference between a private company doing something and the government then you dont understand freedom. probate companies cant compell you to do anything. only the government can.
if the government gave everyone random drug tests without their consent that would be a violation of the human right to freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. when you sign a contract that allows your employer to test your urine for drugs your freedom is not being taken away.
Nothing to do with the employer.
It's the government's job to prevent by law companies from being able to ask for it. Just like we do. It's discrimination.
no. nobody is forcing you to agree to any drug tests. the employer is offering you a job at his own private company that he owns. you can take it or leave it. you think you should be able to force him to not only associate with you but pay your wages if he doesnt want to? thats like forcing someone to let you into their own private residence, or forcing them to let you use your own private property. you arent entitled to their money. you are selling labour on their terms. and if you dont like their terms dont enter a contract with them.
employers discriminate all the time. what if the person has a history of violence? what if they arent qualified? what if they act unprofessionally? the whole point of interviewing people is to screen them. if emoyers didnt discrimimate they would hire the first applicant and never fire anyone.
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flugelizor
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#25980239 - 05/08/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, what if a Hooters employee just doesn't ... have what it takes?
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: flugelizor]
#25980536 - 05/08/19 06:57 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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flugelizor said: Yea, what if a Hooters employee just doesn't ... have what it takes?
lmfao
imagine i wanted to be a professional athlete but didnt want to have to pass any physical fitness tests. so I said "how i train in my personal time isnt any of their business so if they assess my fitness level its discrimination. all i have to do is show up for the games."
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: searching]
#25980541 - 05/08/19 07:00 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man your wife is tripping, my Ex was just like that when I failed my drug test BUT was still bringing in more than her
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XnMe
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#25980564 - 05/08/19 07:15 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: XnMe]
#25980708 - 05/08/19 08:18 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haven’t looked it up but 95% sure drug results are not made public as it would fall into medical testing protected by HIPPA. Really no way around that and total bullshit for something in your past to stick like jelly in your future.
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XnMe
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: Gorlax]
#25980716 - 05/08/19 08:26 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Haven’t looked it up but 95% sure drug results are not made public as it would fall into medical testing protected by HIPPA. Really no way around that and total bullshit for something in your past to stick like jelly in your future.
Only time it would ever go on your records is if it was in violation of your probation and they had to report it. Or if you have certifications/license's that could be revoked cause of a positive on a test, but that info would only be kept by that company usually.
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: XnMe]
#25980861 - 05/08/19 10:09 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Psyche delics
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: XnMe]
#25980898 - 05/08/19 10:30 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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XnMe said: took a FAA DOT 5 pannel today, with 2 packs of surejell, creatine, b12 and a cup of coffee. lets see how my results go tomorrow.
they legally can't hold it on your records if you fail pre-employment, and normally with jobs they will contact you if you fail and try to set up another appointment the next day or so incase it was a false positive
Pretty sure they rule out false positives with LC/ms
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#25981012 - 05/09/19 12:29 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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my dad works in the oil sands at a drug and alcohol free camp and he needs to pass piss tests, there are drug dogs there and they search rooms. the smallest slip up and hes fired.
Lots of people in Ft Mac have medical cards though. Pretty sure that's a get out of jail free card. There is a doctor on skype in BC who hands out cards to everyone, even minors, you don't even have actually see him in person. The camp may be dry but they can't say no sleeping pills if you have a prescription.
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: Psyche delics]
#25981207 - 05/09/19 04:44 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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XnMe said: took a FAA DOT 5 pannel today, with 2 packs of surejell, creatine, b12 and a cup of coffee. lets see how my results go tomorrow.
they legally can't hold it on your records if you fail pre-employment, and normally with jobs they will contact you if you fail and try to set up another appointment the next day or so incase it was a false positive
Pretty sure they rule out false positives with LC/ms
what is LC/ms?
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: XnMe]
#25981229 - 05/09/19 05:07 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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XnMe
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: psi]
#25981309 - 05/09/19 06:36 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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guess it all depends on the test and giving the person the 'benefit of the doubt'
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#25983811 - 05/10/19 11:28 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: XnMe]
#25983847 - 05/10/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love it when people progress!
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#25983881 - 05/10/19 12:08 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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has anyone ever ingested a bunch of drugs just to fuck with the lab people? I would love to gauge their reaction when they notice the clusterfuck of chemicals in someones piss.
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Re: Failed a drug test after 26 days sober [Re: Sham87]
#25983923 - 05/10/19 12:26 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not me, lol. Some friends and I wanted to get a non alcoholic keg once to see how many people would act drunk, I guarantee you at least a few would.
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