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    #25966412 - 05/01/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

just went to see the movie last night and......what in the actual fuck? so many questions....main one(s?) why is tony dead?/cant they just go back and get a previous tony like 2014 gamora?..and what the fuck if old gamora went to future the  she would not have died, thanos would not have gotten stones.....my head hurts...


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #25966429 - 05/01/19 02:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

They'd have to take Tony out of that timeline then. Gamora could be fine out of her timeline but you can't have Avengers without Iron Man :shrug: The real reason would probably be: It's a comic movie and it's probably best to not look to much into it. I'm more interested in what Loki's up to since he managed to escape with that Tesseract in the 2014 timeline.


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: Eminence]
    #25966434 - 05/01/19 02:38 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

yeah but they went back off camera further to go get it again. and gamora was supposed to be sacrificed so thanos to get soul stone so.....if shes in future then thanos isnt going to sacrifice her therefore not getting soul stone :/


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #25966444 - 05/01/19 02:45 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Ohh, for a second there I got confused between the scepter and the tesseract. If he couldn't sacrifice her I guess shit didn't go down like it did in the "current" timeline so I guess that's good for both universes right? Damn I don't know. Time travel plots in movies are always weird like this.


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #25966472 - 05/01/19 03:02 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I can’t believe Superman did that thing with the bad guy.


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: Eminence]
    #25966490 - 05/01/19 03:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Ohh, for a second there I got confused between the scepter and the tesseract. If he couldn't sacrifice her I guess shit didn't go down like it did in the "current" timeline so I guess that's good for both universes right? Damn I don't know. Time travel plots in movies are always weird like this.



right? that means time is not a closed loop....which means its multiple universes which means all the originals are still dead and gone......like rick and morty lol


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    #25966493 - 05/01/19 03:18 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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I can’t believe Superman did that thing with the bad guy.



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    #25966580 - 05/01/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I guess so. I also think Tony's death was a way to end the avengers, because this (actually the next Spider-man) was supposed to be the last of this phase of the MCU. Which means I think I'm done with Marvel movies now because the new stuff isn't going to be made for me really.


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    #25966594 - 05/01/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I agree. tony was the reason I even got into the films. I just loved his character. if it really is different dimensions they could just kidnap, we will call him c-38, tony and bring him to c-37 letting c-38 go to hell?.....couldnt that cause a reaction where infinite dimensions kidnap anothers tony?.... :mindblown:


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #25966731 - 05/01/19 06:22 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

If they go back in time, they risk losing the glove to Thanos since Tony uses it to destroy Thanos. In other words, i see it as too risky because they would go back in time and someone would have to steal the Infinity Stones from Thanos in that one perfect moment and then destroy the glove like Tony did. I also remember them saying that there was a limited amount of those "red particles" they use to time travel.

As for Gamora, they sacraficed Natasha to get the Soul Stone. So someone *has* to die to get that Soul Stone away from Thanos.

I was confused on the portals that everyone stepped out of. Did Dr. Strange make those portals by "cursing" the Time Stone in Infinity Wars? Why didnt everyone just vanish forever when Thanos snapped his fingers in Infinity Wars? Did everyone just go to a previous timeline instead of dieing in Infinity Wars? How did Dr. Strange know when to step out of that alternative timeline to attack Thanos's huge army? Were they "hiding" in another dimension this whole time?

I loved Endgame despite all the confusing unexplained events. One of the best movies Ive ever seen in my life :awesome:


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25966808 - 05/01/19 07:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Damn people really do like these comic book movies huh

I still haven’t watched star wars all the way through. I thought it was kinda gay

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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: mendocino_beano]
    #25966834 - 05/01/19 07:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I love the sci-fi/fantasy aspect myself. Plus time-travel is too fuckin cool! :datass:

I wish they would make a movie about the book The Time Engine. Thatd be dooooope.

So u havent seen Star Wars Episodes 1-6 before?


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    #25966840 - 05/01/19 07:37 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Here’s my thing... I love sci-fi but hate fantasy. Like the nerdy costume stuff lol. Never got into comic books either, or video games for that matter. So I’m just not the target audience lol

I watched parts of the first Star Wars but could never get into it.

I think Alien is a way better movie, for example.


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    #25966846 - 05/01/19 07:41 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Movies are very subjective, like all art really. My GF doesnt like superhero movies either, she thinks they are silly and too intense. She likes musicals and romantics, like most women do.

Im kinda borderline on medievil fantasy. Part of me likes it, part of me thinks its too "ancient" :lol:

But when u blend sci fi with medievil fantasy, mmmmmmmm.....thats the good stuff!


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    #25966851 - 05/01/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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If they go back in time, they risk losing the glove to Thanos since Tony uses it to destroy Thanos. In other words, i see it as too risky because they would go back in time and someone would have to steal the Infinity Stones from Thanos in that one perfect moment and then destroy the glove like Tony did. I also remember them saying that there was a limited amount of those "red particles" they use to time travel.

As for Gamora, they sacraficed Natasha to get the Soul Stone. So someone *has* to die to get that Soul Stone away from Thanos.

I was confused on the portals that everyone stepped out of. Did Dr. Strange make those portals by "cursing" the Time Stone in Infinity Wars? Why didnt everyone just vanish forever when Thanos snapped his fingers in Infinity Wars? Did everyone just go to a previous timeline instead of dieing in Infinity Wars? How did Dr. Strange know when to step out of that alternative timeline to attack Thanos's huge army? Were they "hiding" in another dimension this whole time?

I loved Endgame despite all the confusing unexplained events. One of the best movies Ive ever seen in my life :awesome:



yeah which they went back and got more...which makes me think they are not even dealing with time but dimentions


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Re: endgame discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS, CLICK AT OWN RISK) [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #25966863 - 05/01/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Time is a dimension. Its like a place, a location on a timeline. At least thats how i understand it.

I liked Bruce's explaination of time-travel: "When you travel thru time, your future becomes your past and your past becomes your future!". In other words, u enter a new timeline when u time-travel.

Perfect explaination. Thats how its explained in UFOlogy as well and Im sure they got the concept from UFOlogy as well.


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    #25966868 - 05/01/19 07:51 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

hmmm.....I agree. its like they went to a different dimension/time and fucked it/helped it (example killing 2014 thanos) now that timeline is safe.


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    #25966872 - 05/01/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I never read comics (although I would watch Spider Man and X-Men on Saturday mornings), so I am somewhat surprised I got into these movies as much as I did. I like the fact that they even poke fun at the corniness of comic characters within the movies though. It makes it less corny in a way.

Maybe you should check out Watchmen sometime. Their costumes are very corny I admit, but it's got a very serious tone with some deep dialogue. It's kind of the inverse of Marvel movies I think in some ways.

Also, I don't like any of the Star Wars movies except the original 3.


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    #25966877 - 05/01/19 07:56 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I just watched Endgame again at home. Such a good ending. Doubt Marvel will make another villain that's even close to Thanos though. What a badass.


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    #25966927 - 05/01/19 08:17 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

yeah it was epic no doubt :rockman:


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