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Offlinetrsbelfil
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Do you change when you take shrooms only once?
    #2596514 - 04/24/04 12:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I have been seeing this guy for about a month now and two or three weeks ago he tried shrooms for the first time. In the past he smoked weed frequently and tired E and the next step was a 3g dose of shrooms. I have noticed a significant change in him, and his friends have also noticed this. He is much more lazy and mudane about life and relationships. I really care about him and I was wondering if the shrooms might have affected him this drastically after only one time?


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2596542 - 04/24/04 12:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yes tripping can change you psychologically, like any major life event can. 3g is a pretty big event for a first time tripper.

Is it possible he had a latent mental illness/history of family mental illness? Could simply be some apathy from realizing a lot of the trivial things in the world people get hung up on.

Regardless, I think you should talk to him about his experience and find out, or provide us with more details about his apathy and reasons.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2596544 - 04/24/04 12:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Its really hard to say, to many variables in this situation I dont know you. But to answer your question as best as I can. Sure, shrooms can change you, just like any other experience. Laziness is quite the opposite way I've seen it change people though. It sounds like he's going through a depression of some sort. Maybe he's just more down to earth? Laziness and stuff sounds like something more like a E crackout. Maybe his mushroom trip is lingering on him? Ask him about his trip... If it is that he'll eventually straighten himself out. If you two are younger a strong trip can make you do a whole lot of growing up in a few hours..

I would just stop worrying about it and let him straighten himself help, whatever the situation is. Just talk to him about it, and stop talking shit behind his back to your friends.  :lipsrsealed:


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2600098 - 04/25/04 06:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I've never heard of people losing motivation from mushrooms.

My first time was 3.5g, combined with several bowls of cannabis. It was certainly a life-changing experience, but not in a negative way at all.

You say he took E before and was "stepping up" to 3 grams of mushrooms? I'd say that's a step down. MDMA fucks with your body chemistry WAY more than psilocybin/psilocin and can cause bouts of depression (IE: so called "Blue Mondays").

Quite frankly... if you care for the guy so much, talk to him about it.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: ChiLong]
    #2602090 - 04/25/04 09:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never heard of people losing motivation from mushrooms.






I agree. People change by shrooms but it never seems to be negative. I would talk to him and see what is up.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2602365 - 04/25/04 10:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Also you gotta consider the fact that you've only been seeing him for a month and it had only been a week into it that the trip occured.

I'm no expert on relationships but I think that during this early phase of a relationship things can change in peoples personalities, once you grow more comfortable with each other and not so concerned about making a good impression, underlying aspects can come forward.

But yes there is certainly a chance that the shrooms also affected or exaggerated this. Like the others said, just talk to him about it. But not with the angle of 'man I think you're fucked up and I want you to see a psychiatrist'...just have a chat see whats up its most likely nothing too serious.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2602396 - 04/25/04 10:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You change every time you do ANYTHING.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: Strumpling]
    #2602404 - 04/25/04 10:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What he said


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2602410 - 04/25/04 10:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

change is relative.... :-)


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: Strumpling]
    #2602433 - 04/25/04 10:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Strumpling said:
You change every time you do ANYTHING.




So true. The idea of "drugs" we're brought up with makes us (before we go and smoke a joint and realize, hey, i love being stoned) worry about them, that they're capable of doing worse things to us than jaywalking at the perfectly wrong time could, or picking up a newspaper and reading something on a whim that might change the course of your life.

With shrooms it's just different, since the day after I always feel like, as I experience everything the world has to offer, my mind has to recatalogue it all and reacquaint itself with it, and learn to understand it again, this time with my widened perspective..


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #2603474 - 04/26/04 03:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Having said everything can change you, I would also add that one should not do shrooms if they don't fully understand this idea; the idea that during any portion of any second of any day, in any way, one's entire understanding of the world and one's understanding of their place in it can be flipped upside-down or shattered completely.

I think that understanding this can always ensure that one's trip ends up with a "safe arrival home."

Some of my most twisted trips have sent my mind into numerous unexplored realms of fear, the release of fear, anxiety, the release of anxiety, hatred, love, total comfort, and extreme discomfort (on many levels). Regardless of where I go during the trip, though, as I've gotten more trips under my belt, they all seem to fold up more perfectly in the end into something amazing, beautiful, and VERY personal.

Just remember that a trip is a trip, and that just like when one goes on vacation, one's "normal life," which may include loved ones, school, work, artwork, or whatever, will always summon one back home in one piece.

You are You, and nothing can change that - go ahead and try!


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: mrTtheH]
    #2621941 - 04/30/04 04:22 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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mrTtheH said:
change is relative.... :-)




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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2623364 - 04/30/04 10:42 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

I have changed a lot after taking shrooms. I precieve everything differently and I focus on certain things more often.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2623771 - 05/01/04 12:51 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

there will be no more as there once was,only shall there be what is to come.so,stop living in the past,I myself have become.


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: trsbelfil]
    #2624243 - 05/01/04 03:00 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

I change every time i see a nasty porn... :lol:


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Re: Do you change when you take shrooms only once? [Re: ivi]
    #2680971 - 05/15/04 03:00 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

but you are still undeniably YOU


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