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Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border
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Diseases that were declared eradictaed are making a come back. How?
Well this year we are projected to receive 1.5 million migrants from our southern border. This article states that the government KNOWS they are sick partially treats them and then relseases them into the interior of the country. Into your towns, your kids schools.

At the same time trump and the cdc are telling families they are the problem. Thry are not the ones brining in disease. You could have an entire country unvaccinated and healthy as long as millions of unvaccinated atent pouring through the border.

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/border-patrol-releasing-thousands-exposed-diseases-like-tuberculosis/
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What happened to the incubation periods at quarantine stations in Ellis Island? Why does coming here illegally exempt aliens from the laws on the books that make them inadmissible until we know they are not a threat?

On Sunday, Aaron Hull, chief patrol agent of the El Paso sector, divulged to the public what we already suspected but most government officials assiduously covered up. The head of the second busiest illegal immigration corridor told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is increasingly “caring for more and more sick people, because a lot of these aliens coming in are carrying contagious health conditions, things like chicken pox, scabies, tuberculosis, lice.”

Tuberculosis. That is the disease we sought to eradicate through our laws as early as 1907 by requiring every prospective immigrant to wait at Ellis Island, away from the population, until they got the green light to enter. That is a far cry from what a CBP official told me two weeks ago – that “we have not seen any specific, unusual, or alarming public health or infectious disease threats in persons in CBP custody.”

CBP declined to comment further on Hull’s revelation upon my request.

If border agents have confirmed the arrival of illegal aliens with tuberculosis who have not been treated in hospitals, what about all those exposed to it in close quarters who did not yet exhibit symptoms and were released within hours of apprehension? Unlike in the past, where illegal immigrants waited for days in ICE facilities before either being deported or released, CBP is directly releasing thousands of aliens into the interior within hours. A bunch of illegal aliens caught in Arizona and El Paso this past month were released in Tucson.

It is simply inconceivable that this is not a priority threat to the American people. It is certainly a violation of current immigration law. The law (8. U.S.C. §1182(a)(1)(A)(i)-(ii)) states clearly that any alien “who has failed to present documentation of having received vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases, which shall include at least the following diseases: mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus and diphtheria toxoids, pertussis, influenza type B and hepatitis B, and any other vaccinations against vaccine-preventable diseases” are inadmissible. Moreover, 8 U.S.C. § 1222(a) requires the government to detain them “for a sufficient time to enable the immigration officers and medical officers to subject such aliens to observation and an examination sufficient to determine whether or not they belong to inadmissible classes.”

DHS officials, including the current acting DHS secretary, have testified that these people have largely never “received immunizations.”



Insanity really


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA] * 5
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lice isn't a disease


chicken pox has never been claimed to be eradicated



scabies isn't a disease


measles was never declared to be eradicated, even in this country.  cases occur every year, just not on the scale that we're seeing currently.




HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!!111 :aweoverdose:

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Tulipslave]
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https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
Measles was declared eradicated in 2000.

https://www.who.int/neglected_diseases/diseases/scabies/en/
:shrug:

parasites carry diseases like typhus. Acute flaccid myelitus  popped up around 2014 which has been libked to viruses A16, EV-A71, & EV-D68. These viruses cause polio like symptoms. Complete paralysis mainly in children.
https://www.kcci.com/article/virus-linked-to-cause-of-paralyzing-polio-like-illness-in-children-researchers-say/27206748


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA] * 3
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In that case let’s build a wall around suburban antivax wine mom neighborhoods


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA] * 2
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JHOVA said:
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
Measles was declared eradicated in 2000.

https://www.who.int/neglected_diseases/diseases/scabies/en/
:shrug:

parasites carry diseases like typhus. Acute flaccid myelitus  popped up around 2014 which has been libked to viruses A16, EV-A71, & EV-D68. These viruses cause polio like symptoms. Complete paralysis mainly in children.
https://www.kcci.com/article/virus-linked-to-cause-of-paralyzing-polio-like-illness-in-children-researchers-say/27206748



Im not claiming that migrants aren't dirty or disease ridden, but dont you think the recent movement agianst vaccinating your children has something to do with it?

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
In that case let’s build a wall around suburban antivax wine mom neighborhoods



:thumbup:


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: MagicMush123] * 2
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And apparently some dirty Americans brought disease to costa rica :lol:




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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
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MagicMush123 said:








And apparently some dirty Americans brought disease to costa rica :lol:







Lord have mercy


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
In that case let’s build a wall around suburban antivax wine mom neighborhoods



I can get behind that

BUILD THE WALL !!!1111


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: YangSupporter] * 1
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Lol foreign countries have health warnings about traveling to the US because americans didn’t vaccinate their kids for measles. It’s not the immigrant you need to worry about. I wouldn’t be surprised if people in Central America have better rates of vaccination.

Yup

Measles


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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what does vaccination rate matter when sick people are coming across the border? obviously those people cant be bothered.


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
Measles was declared eradicated in 2000.

https://www.who.int/neglected_diseases/diseases/scabies/en/
:shrug:






okay, i stand corrected, one government organization DID declare it eradicated.  George W. Bush declared "Mission accomplished!"  clearly they were both wrong.  does it really matter?  it's still here.  cases still have happened in this country, despite what the CDC says.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Tulipslave]
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it matters. i dont want my kid getting TB do you?


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
it matters. i dont want my kid getting TB do you?



If your kid was born in the US, your kid more than likely does not have a TB vaccine. And is at risk.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
it matters. i dont want my kid getting TB do you?





i don't/won't have kids, so frankly i don't care :shrug:

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Tulipslave] * 4
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Most of the Central American countries are low incidence countries according to WHO. TB is a much bigger problem in Africa and Asia. Russia has three times the rate of TB than Mexico.

Central America has about the same rates as Eastern Europe. Central America has low rates of drug resistant TB.

The diseased foreigner is such an old worn out trope. JHOVA is an old school xenophobe.

I bet Fox News is telling viewers that people from all three Mexican countries are bringing in smallpox.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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Smallpox was recently declared eradicated, wasn't it? Or at least nearly eradicated? (don't remember the actual category name)

In Russia, you get vaccinated for TB as a baby. It leaves a pretty prominent scar, because they have to use a large-bore needle. Mine's about 6mm diameter, right in the gap between the delt and the tricep.

I also false positive on every TB test I take, since they test for antigens. Which, after one particularly annoying almost quarantine, means I take a fuckload of immunosuppressants (basically anti-AIDS drugs) whenever I have to get tested.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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why are there so many sick individuals crossing the border from countries with lower incidence thatn the US? that doesnt make any sense. data means jack shit when disease is showing up at your border every day. thats a reality i have to face in a border state that your secluded ethnostate dont koods.


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA] * 2
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Are there many? How many? Some guy who isn’t a doctor and probably doesn’t know the first thing about infectious diseases said something on Fox News. Did he give any numbers? It’s hard to take someone seriously when they scaremonger about lice.

As for the policy towards tuberculosis in 1907... you couldn’t cure TB back then. Now almost all cases of TB are cleared up with a course of antibiotics. It’s also not very contagious. People lived with TB patients for years without contracting the disease.

Edited by koods (04/30/19 08:29 PM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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read the article for yourself big boy


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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How many cases of TB have they discovered? Why don’t they say?

Quote:
Guatemalans are already 83 times more likely to have tuberculosis than Americans and seven times more likely than legal immigrants, according to the CDC.




Wrong

https://extranet.who.int/sree/Reports?op=Replet&name=/WHO_HQ_Reports/G2/PROD/EXT/TBCountryProfile&ISO2=gt&outtype=pdf

The article you posted is garbage

But, let’s just say it’s all true. Donald Trump is releasing people with TB into the US. How are his policies not totally impotent.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (04/30/19 09:01 PM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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koods said:
How many cases of TB have they discovered? Why don’t they say?

Quote:
Guatemalans are already 83 times more likely to have tuberculosis than Americans and seven times more likely than legal immigrants, according to the CDC.




Wrong

https://extranet.who.int/sree/Reports?op=Replet&name=/WHO_HQ_Reports/G2/PROD/EXT/TBCountryProfile&ISO2=gt&outtype=pdf

The article you posted is garbage

But, let’s just say it’s all true. Donald Trump is releasing people with TB into the US. How are his policies not totally impotent.



He's releasing them into democrat cities, though. So that democrats can get sick and die and lead to a glorious Republican White Christian Fatherland that can rule for a thousand years!

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Lol NYC and San Fransciso have the longest life expectancies in the country. New Yorkers live almost 7 years longer than people in West Virginia. Trump supporting counties have unusually low life expectancies mainly due to drug overdoses, alcoholism and suicide. You guys will lose this game of attrition.

Life expectancy top ten (all voted for clinton)
Hawaii 81.3
California 80.9
Connecticut 80.8
Minnesota 80.8
New York 80.5
Massachusetts 80.4
Colorado 80.2
New Jersey 80.2
Washington 80.2
Vermont 79.9

Bottom ten (all Trump states)
Indiana 77.2
South Carolina 76.8
Tennessee 76.1
Arkansas 75.8
Kentucky 75.8
Oklahoma 75.7
Louisiana 75.6
Alabama 75.4
West Virginia 75.3
Mississippi 74.7


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (04/30/19 09:44 PM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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No they won't. That idea is fundamentally stupid as long as state borders are porous. Anyone can travel wherever they please in the US.

If we were to limit travel between states, requiring some sort of citizenship test, then you're correct. They will lose the war of attrition. Then again, the people who matter will all leave before the people that don't die out.

You know, I used to love this game called "Ruler 2020" as a kid. Loved the shit out of it. One of the scenarios was that the US broke into separate countries by state.

I always played either Pennsylvania or Brazil. Brazil had more resources by far, but not really a good position. Pennsylvania didn't really have *more* resources, but they had enough strategic resources to go to war and conquer the surrounding few states, which gave access to the resources needed to conquer the world. You just had to take NY, Mass, Conn, and a chunk of Ohio, WV, and Virginia for a nice buffer zone. Great lakes on one side and the ocean on the other limited ground attack, and a bunch of AA flak kept Canada and the other northern states off your back. Which was doable if you converted Detroit to making tank parts right away. Then you had access to resources and people, which provided a solid economic base. Of course, the biggest problem was doing that without pissing off the states that have Uranium, since that was far, and you needed nukes to keep taking land easily. Or at least, to prevent Russia or China from nuking you of existence.

God I hope it's not an accurate idea of the future.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos]
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if that were true, West Virginia would be empty already. Trump supporters would rather die in a shithole like Alabama than thrive in California. They’re that stupid.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos]
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the top states people are moving to are red states. i personally know dozens that have moved to texas and arizona. boomers cant afford the rent in CA plain and simple. you dont know shit about CA koods.


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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA] * 1
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So poor, non productive people who can’t even afford to have a place to live are leaving California for Texas and Arizona. Sounds like a win for California.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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To both above comments:

It's not stupidity or preference. It's economic reality.

Red states are cheap because they get subsidized by blue states. People move there for cheaper living, and their kids stay there because they're too poor to leave. That's the point. A couple more debt slaves.

It's another Gilded age. Down to the Teapot Dome scandals. The system is fucked, people are realizing it, and it will not end well.

I just hope the trauma plate I ordered six hours ago can catch the result without fucking my chest over too bad.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos]
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get an NIJ level IIIA soft vest with a carrier that takes the hard plates you ordered.  That way, you have a chance to stop a rifle round with both or if its too hot and uncomfortable in the summertime, the soft armor will still stop a .44 mag or 12 gauge slug.  Also, even if you don't want to carry a firearm, maybe keep bear mace handy like a fire extinguisher.  It'll fuck over everyone in the room if you have to use it, but I doubt anyone will do much shooting.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa]
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pretty harsh rhetoric for the boomers koods. i didnt know you hated boomers too. its like we are bonding.



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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
get an NIJ level IIIA soft vest with a carrier that takes the hard plates you ordered.  That way, you have a chance to stop a rifle round with both or if its too hot and uncomfortable in the summertime, the soft armor will still stop a .44 mag or 12 gauge slug.  Also, even if you don't want to carry a firearm, maybe keep bear mace handy like a fire extinguisher.  It'll fuck over everyone in the room if you have to use it, but I doubt anyone will do much shooting.



That's exactly what I bought, actually. 3A vest with a trauma plate pouch and a plate rated for type 4 AP rounds.

I personally follow the mantra of "guns are for show, knives for a pro".

Bear mace clouds will disable me as well, so...eh? My potential shooter in my classroom idea so far was smash a gallon of acetone on the floor and set the world on fire, because I can deal with fire better than I deal with bullets. I've walked into fireballs before, and while I've had guns pointed at me twice now, I've never actually been shot at. Considering a vest, that may change.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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You’re never gonna wear that thing. It will hang in your closet until the day you die in a mass shooting .


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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Advertised as less than 8 pounds and breathable, so...I hope you're wrong. Worst case, I'll just slip the trauma plate in my backpack's laptop pocket and use my bag.

Edit: I'm also looking at other work. Fuck teaching, I don't get paid enough to dodge bullets. I ain't Boris the bullet-dodger.

Edit2: Moist definitely not getting paid to eat one for a student.

Edited by Kryptos (04/30/19 11:58 PM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Wearing a bulletproof proof vest whenever you leave the house is even crazier than carrying a gun every time you leave the house. They both show a total lack of perspective on risk


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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It's not for whenever I leave the house. I plan on keeping it in my car and putting it on for campus only. Which is a few hours a day.

Thing is, YOLO is both a blessing and a curse. Yeah, I'm a little fucked up about it. Ever read the short story "Trauma Plate"? I read it four hours before there was a shooting at my place of work. Over lunch. It was recommended by someone I know.

Edited by Kryptos (05/01/19 12:01 AM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos]
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too bad it ain't legal to buy groin armor, amirite?

If you're handy, you might look into ultra high molecular weight polyethylene textile and some resin to go with it.  You can use it to make your own plates and custom items.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa]
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Way ahead of ya there. That was a plan as well. I think you and I watched the same youtube video.

Course, the plan was, if there was a government collapse. It might be a day to day thing.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: Kryptos]
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I used to sell bulletproof shit on ebay
I was trying to ride the 2012 prepper wave
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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Most of the Central American countries are low incidence countries according to WHO. TB is a much bigger problem in Africa and Asia. Russia has three times the rate of TB than Mexico.

Central America has about the same rates as Eastern Europe. Central America has low rates of drug resistant TB.

The diseased foreigner is such an old worn out trope. JHOVA is an old school xenophobe.

I bet Fox News is telling viewers that people from all three Mexican countries are bringing in smallpox.





by all three Mexican countries, you mean Canada, USA, and New Mexico, right?  :wink:

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa]
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Give it till 2020. I still think Trump's got it, but lately I'm not so sure.

Plus, there's the democrat kid prepper wave. I'm not the only person I know who bought a vest today.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa]
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I’d require the seller test his goods before buying anything like that on eBay. I want video.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: koods]
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i didn't sell homemade shit. the manufacturers guaranteed it all not me.

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: ballsalsa]
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This was my thought:



Plus, I've worked with fiberglass construction before when I fixed up sailboats, so...shouldn't be an issue.

Edited by Kryptos (05/01/19 12:24 AM)

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
read the article for yourself big boy



Says the guy who just got through saying "data means jack shit".


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: Tuberculosis, scabies, measles, chicken pox, and lice are coming across the border [Re: JHOVA]
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I remember riding a Greyhound across the US south some years ago. Some old racist bastard got on and sat next to me, and spent the entire ride with his tshirt pulled up over his face. He told me it was to protect him from the Mexicans bringing in TB.

I just couldn't stop thinking at how much of an idiot he looked like. Even if he was 100% correct, a tshirt ain't gonna do shit.


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