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Boogieman47
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: Mad Season]
#25964052 - 04/30/19 08:45 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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and if you are using that home made Injection portion would recommend refraining from using that .. if you want to use a port you can either buy the actually plugs or buy premade lids https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07JGHNNH5/ref=sspa_mw_detail_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1 these are injection ports .. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XXM94N5/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=A3RWBUARKB9UWS&psc=1
Those are the kids for liquid cultures but would work the same for grain .. I would just recommend making traditional lids and making a still air box ..
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771.
Also popcorn isnt a good grain to use .. a few people have chimed in and explained some good procedures.. but I'd stick to what you got for grain or use wheat, oats ect..
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: Boogieman47]
#25964123 - 04/30/19 09:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for all this info.
To answer the questions:
LIQUID CULTURE >How are you making your liquid culture? Liquid cultures are hard to get right and almost impossible to make cleanly from a spore solution.
This is made from putting the end of a commercially bought syringe into a sterilised jar of honey water
FILTER >This filter.. What is it? Has holes in it..
It's made from a breathable DIY painting suit. The holes aren't all the way through! Would you suggest something better?
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: Boogieman47]
#25964147 - 04/30/19 10:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said:
Those are the kids for liquid cultures but would work the same for grain .. I would just recommend making traditional lids and making a still air box ..
Are "traditional" lids what I'm using or are plugs traditional please?
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Boogieman47
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: debord]
#25964200 - 04/30/19 10:48 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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1/4" holes with poly stuffed in the hole tight or an sfd like I have here ...
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Mad Season
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: Boogieman47]
#25964214 - 04/30/19 10:54 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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debord said: Thanks for all this info.
To answer the questions:
LIQUID CULTURE >How are you making your liquid culture? Liquid cultures are hard to get right and almost impossible to make cleanly from a spore solution.
This is made from putting the end of a commercially bought syringe into a sterilised jar of honey water
Yeah... LC is considered more advanced than agar for sure, simply because it's best to inoculate it with a clean agar wedge, then test it with agar again to see if it's clean. It's for this reason that LC is frowned upon for beginners.
Learn to agar before you play with LC. It will save your future grows to always know you're starting with 100% clean inoculant.
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debord said: FILTER >This filter.. What is it? Has holes in it..
It's made from a breathable DIY painting suit. The holes aren't all the way through! Would you suggest something better?
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Boogieman47 said: 1/4" holes with poly stuffed in the hole tight or an sfd like I have here ...
 There's also Bod's easy af polyfil lid tek https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24125953
found in his links list, stickied at the top of the mush cult forums https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
Also, if you don't have one, make a SAB https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23990888#23990888
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: debord]
#25964224 - 04/30/19 11:06 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: And have you tested your LC on agar ? Do you have an sab? Flowhood ?, what do your lids look like ?
No to SAB - not sure what that one is and no Flowhood, not even one on the oven and I haven't learnt how to do agar yet either! All this said, I am committed to learning
That might be a lot of you problems. Have to have clean myc inorder to have clean spawn.
SAB is easy to make and use!
-------------------- JJ
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: Mad Season]
#25964231 - 04/30/19 11:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow - so fully just a hole stuffed with polyfil and then inoculated in the box!
And a new thing to learn - THE AGAR!
Thanks guys
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Re: Jars keep failing - It's driving me BONKERS! [Re: debord]
#25964369 - 04/30/19 01:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Micropore tape is also handy for filter.
Agar is actually not as daunting as it first sounds I'm a noob and have had decent agar work. I just started with pre mixed agar packet off eBay - just add water, so I knew I couldn't balls it up. Ill mix up my own in due time. Simple SAB made. First few transfers are nervy but once you get a procedure down I actually like doing it now!!
I'm at the stage of trying to get a decent grain Tek established playing around with cooking times. I'd say you're near there a few tweaks with moisture level and you should be set. Good luck!
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