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thealienthatategod
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sex of the soul 1
#25959150 - 04/27/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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(assuming you believe in a soul/spirit)
psychedelic drugs have a triadic effect on mind, body, and spirit.
we can feel their effects in out minds and body, but what types of transformations does the spirit go through?
some plants/fungi clearly have a female spirit while other possess a male spirit.
do you think it's possible, that a female plant could alter a male soul into a female soul, or vice versa?
the saying mushrooms make you gay may have a lot of truth behind it.
is the legalization of cannabis a conspiracy to turn men into women?
(may be this should be in the conspiracy forum)
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porter
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I've been thinking about this things so much lately. Great post, hope more have stuff to say
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thealienthatategod
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Re: sex of the soul [Re: porter]
#25970103 - 05/03/19 12:41 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks for the reply, porter
it was a pretty clear message that i got based on my experiences,
my own messages and experiences,
but, i was wondering if others have had similar?
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What makes you think your soul has a gender?
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thealienthatategod
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Re: sex of the soul [Re: cez] 1
#25970452 - 05/03/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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i guess there is a chance that the message could have been referring to the gender of my mind.
as in some woman could have a tiny little alien pilet in their mind that is a male.
they would still be a women in body, but have a man mind.
i don't know if souls have genders
do mushrooms have a gender?
does cannabis have a gender?
does salvia have a gender?
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Plants usually have genders, yes
Pistils and stymens and all that.
It's generally said that souls don't have genders
At least in Hinduism.
Japanese might have a view of souls having gender.
Reason being ghosts, which are souls, would have gender usually.
Kami is a term, meaning God or soul or spirit,
Which would sometimes have gender.
Everything has soul in Japanese.
Kami are very interesting,
To look up; kami, Shinto, etc.
Basically supernatural beings are kami,
Usually, shape-shifters, guardian spirits,
And ancestors fall into this category.
Kami are more likely to... Well have gender I would say.
I believe the most well known, principal one is also the first one listed, Amaterasu. List is from the wiki article, kami
I don't know much about Japanese but Amaterasu may be connected with "living" as, ikitemasu means that.
Amaterasu Ōmikami, the sun goddess Ebisu, one of seven gods of fortune Fūjin, the god of wind Hachiman, the god of war Inari Ōkami, the god of rice and agriculture Izanagi-no-Mikoto, the first man Izanami-no-Mikoto, the first woman Kotoamatsukami, the primary kami trinity Omoikane, the deity of wisdom Sarutahiko Ōkami, the kami of earth Susanoo-no-mikoto, the god of sea and storm Tenjin, the poetry god Tsukuyomi, the moon god Raijin, the god of lightning, thunder and storms Ryūjin, the Japanese dragon god of sea and storms
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Mushrooms have genders, many of them actually. Their weird.
Marijuana, we smoke the female plant. Male plants produce pollen.
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sex and gender are not the same, sex is a biological function while gender is a psychological construct with no physical reality
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
Edited by killingravensun (05/05/19 07:11 PM)
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*Body and soul are the same thing
But anyhow I’ve been studying a lot of Taoist Sexuallity Anyone have any insight on that
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Re: sex of the soul [Re: Tripsten] 2
#25978178 - 05/07/19 04:08 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tripsten said: *Body and soul are the same thing
But anyhow I’ve been studying a lot of Taoist Sexuallity Anyone have any insight on that
People will propose that the soul is the essence of the body, which makes them both different in that regard.
This would suggest that the soul is a level of emotion.
Others will assume spirit and soul to be interchangeable which suggests something different from the above - arguably incorrect, hence two distinct terms.
Sex doesn't enter the Tao. Sex is applicable to nature which is an uppermost tier of the Tao - the equivalent of assuming that we are our great Grandmothers. The Tao underlies nature as a fundamental principle beyond animalism. During the Qing Dynasty this concept was out-ruled from the mainstream for this reason in recognition of the fact that Qi and Jing are fundamentally unique. One is the essence of that which is endlessly everything and the other that which pertains to mortal body.
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Interesting What does one mean in today’s spiritual practices when they say sexuallity in the Tao or Taoist tradition
But I believe the physical and spiritual to be the exact same thing I can discuss more i to that if you like
And it seems uncharacteristic if Taoist philosophy to believe in somethifn beyond animalism
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Re: sex of the soul [Re: Tripsten]
#25978315 - 05/07/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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The proposition in that regard is that sex has a much deeper meaning at its spiritual origins.
'Tao' which it is proposed, is suggested that two spirits are intertwining in harmony, yet this is still a selfish notion which involves only two people sharing an experience.
This experience too, documents cases which are highly unpleasant. The 'seed' being interchangeable with 'spirit' to justify deeds which would be condemnable in most laws as we know them.
Appreciation of 'spirit' often involves relinquishment of the notion of the physical, since it represents the opposite yet the underlying core of the latter.
Sex then, is a mere precursor of physical - a means of procreation.
Spirit, on the other hand, is often regarded as ultimately independent (though connected in context) from the physical which bears a quality that is without desire of any form.
Desire, sex first and foremost is ultimately the expression of the 'I' to establish another 'I'.
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I don’t believe spirit then by that definition exists necessarily , or at least not in that context , I wouldn’t view “sex” as a whole as desire either The process of creation IS the universe itself, the actual action and process of creation by any means is truly the universe itself over and over again for eternity and sex for procreation/ expression / extreme is apart of that and is its own process of creation
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Re: sex of the soul [Re: Tripsten]
#25978465 - 05/07/19 06:39 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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If sex is not governed by desire, how else is it perpetuated?
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killingravensun
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sex is physical stimulus
desire is a longing arising from separation
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Duncan Rowhl
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Quote:
killingravensun said: sex is physical stimulus
desire is a longing arising from separation
'Desire' by it's definition is a longing for something to manifest.
Sex / stimulation is the condition of having acted upon sexual desire.
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killingravensun
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desire has little to do with sex, if you think otherwise then tell it to the rape victim
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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killingravensun said: desire has little to do with sex, if you think otherwise then tell it to the rape victim
Desire has everything to do with sex and is completely unrelated to the victim.
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killingravensun
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sure, whatever
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Duncan Rowhl
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killingravensun said: sure, whatever
That retort represents perfectly your level of intellect and consideration in the exchange.
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