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hay as substrate
    #2595897 - 04/23/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

without anyththing else used such as poo ect ect how good is hay as the only substrate used to grow cubes?


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Re: hay as substrate [Re: ipickPA]
    #2596527 - 04/24/04 12:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you do not know, hay (greenish-yellow) and straw (yellow) are different. straw is what you want for a bulk substrate. hay cannot be effectively pasteurized because it contains a high amount of seeds (in which its endospores cannot be killed by pasteurization), therefore pasteurized hay would most definitely lead to contamination. furthermore, the nutrient composition of hay differs from straw, and will affect fruit yields.


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Re: hay as substrate [Re: ipickPA]
    #2596535 - 04/24/04 12:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you do not know, hay (greenish-yellow) and straw (yellow) are different. Straw is what you want for a bulk substrate. hay cannot be effectively pasteurized because it contains a high amount of seeds (in which its endospores cannot be killed by pasteurization), therefore pasteurized hay would most definitely lead to contamination. Furthermore, the nutrient composition of hay differs from straw, and will affect yield.


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Re: hay as substrate [Re: taibensis]
    #2596599 - 04/24/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yes but if you were to use it as a substrate mix and pressure cook it it works great.:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

Now granted im using straw nit hay and everything you say is true,however the PCing of the hay in thiis mix substituted for the straw I used would work well I think.The steralization process would kill all the endospores that pasturizing doesnt.


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Butternut squash are softer than acorn or other types of squash, which makes them easier to cut and prepare.


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Re: hay as substrate [Re: ButterNut]
    #2596738 - 04/24/04 01:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

True, you can pressure cook hay, but then you got to be very very careful and clean from that point on, since the hay becomes an open-house for all bacteria.


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Re: hay as substrate [Re: taibensis]
    #2596887 - 04/24/04 01:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

did you read the link to my other thread.Straw is working Great wixed with verm/BRF.Quarts are colonizing fully with liqued Myc in 7Days!At 10 days the Myc is strong enough for spawning to take place in open air to pasturized straw with minimum risk.Im doing it now.


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