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Grow kit disaster! π
#25958885 - 04/27/19 01:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got this premade grow bag bs anyway 1.) water is pooling below the sub in the bag and im unable to poor it out.
 All that yellow water pooling can't be ideal compared to a fc.
2.) there are pins everywhere, more so on the side then top... as expected idk why they think growing in a bag works.. im going to have to break it out of this bag to harvest at some point anyway.
3.) i have premade fc's already might as well put it on a rack inside one right? Save it from bag doom. The only upside i saw to this bag was fae coming through the filter only for colonization but now that it's a hwalthy block if myc should just be able to fc it no problem.
All in all i think i just answered my own question but any input from u guys would be awesome ππ Just skeptical to fc because i just had a green mold pandemic in my room
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Maybe a sterilized pin, and micropore tape? That's what I would try.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π *DELETED* [Re: Anoobus]
#25958991 - 04/27/19 02:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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He said sterilized pin, not bin, at this point (assumingnits fully colonized) being sterile isnβt necessary, you could use a scalpel to poke a hole and drain then tape it up, but youβd probably be better off putting it into a sgfc or humidity chamber. Looks like bacteria soup up in there, needs as much fae as you can give it without drying it out.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: AyePlus] 1
#25959298 - 04/27/19 05:33 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Humidity Chamber Tek
You can use any sized tote that will fit that bag. Open the bag up in the FC, that should let it air out a bit before misting. Just make sure to keep the tote open a bit for more FAE (fresh air exchange). As AyePlus said, you should cut the bottom, let some of that drain, and tape it back up.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: AyePlus] 1
#25959446 - 04/27/19 07:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: He said sterilized pin, not bin, at this point (assumingnits fully colonized) being sterile isnβt necessary, you could use a scalpel to poke a hole and drain then tape it up, but youβd probably be better off putting it into a sgfc or humidity chamber. Looks like bacteria soup up in there, needs as much fae as you can give it without drying it out.
It does look bad didn't it? Yeah i could seriously feel them crying out to me to fix this shit. No pun intended lol.
I ended up putting them in an old mono tub set up i had after washing and wiping it down with iso They got their own little wire rack in there i feel like they're doin better. I was breaking pins off by handling the bag this block absolutely had to come out. Idk why anyone would deal with this abominable idea. Anyways here they are now What do u guys think?
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Looka like its gonna dry out pretty fast. I dont really know what to suggest because youβre in uncharted territory, maybe put a layer of wet coir in the bottom and put the βcakeβ on top of a layer of foil directly on it? Thats pretty much the humidity chamber tek although i think HCβs are unmodded typically.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: AyePlus]
#25959584 - 04/27/19 08:56 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Looka like its gonna dry out pretty fast. I dont really know what to suggest because youβre in uncharted territory, maybe put a layer of wet coir in the bottom and put the βcakeβ on top of a layer of foil directly on it? Thats pretty much the humidity chamber tek although i think HCβs are unmodded typically.
I was thinking the same thing. Was thinking to cover it like it's outside but that's a better idea thank you. I could just tape the sides but ik the micro climate needs adjusting and that sounds like the best idea atm.
Yeah im honestly confused as well but that bag was not it chief, there was damage being done to all my pins every time i moved it bruising breaking etc. Ill find a way and hopefully come out with some beauties.
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If you buried it in coir the mycelium would probably try to colonize it. If you went go that route Iβd suggest pulling off the pins and breaking it up before covering. Iβd treat it like a big brf cake which is what it looks like, seems like your two options are make a humidity chamber sprinkle a layer of verm on it dunk and roll style(or skip the dunk/roll part) or break it up and go bulk style, Iβve never grown cakes .
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: AyePlus]
#25959774 - 04/27/19 10:38 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: If you buried it in coir the mycelium would probably try to colonize it. If you went go that route Iβd suggest pulling off the pins and breaking it up before covering. Iβd treat it like a big brf cake which is what it looks like, seems like your two options are make a humidity chamber sprinkle a layer of verm on it dunk and roll style(or skip the dunk/roll part) or break it up and go bulk style, Iβve never grown cakes .
It's rye colonized on pasteurized hydrated horse manure so i kind of want to keep it as is. Its a 1:2.5 ratio. Big cake style seems to sound the best way. Need to go grt coir
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Make a Humidity Chamber and put that massive thang inside there.
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my initial grow kits i put into a martha tek humidity chamber i built. works pretty well . i got my big ones and cloned em and bootstrapped myself up that way. now im working with shoebox tek
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LogicaL Chaos said: Make a Humidity Chamber and put that massive thang inside there.
That's what she said right?  
OP: On a serious note tho look into doing your own prep work. Grow kits are such a roll of the dice.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: Tormato]
#25960168 - 04/28/19 06:59 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Youβll have a sense of satisfaction knowing that you did all the work yourself from scratch. Plus itβs a lot of fun watching the mushroom cycle from start to finish. Takes a couple months to see fruits, but itβs well worth the wait. Plus you can produce more by doing grain to grain transfers or using LC to knock a bunch of jars up.
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Youβll have a sense of satisfaction knowing that you did all the work yourself from scratch. Plus itβs a lot of fun watching the mushroom cycle from start to finish. Takes a couple months to see fruits, but itβs well worth the wait. Plus you can produce more by doing grain to grain transfers or using LC to knock a bunch of jars up.
Oh yeah ive got my own shoeboxes rolling with my own grain and sub prepped already. This is just one of my avenues im going down and the one i started on, but has taken the longest. Definitely NEVER doing a premade bag again... Humidity chamber it is boys!
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Just a little update i just hydrated/pasteurized my bag of coir with boil water in a 5 gal (probably overkill but just to be safeish and his tech doesn't go over how to prepare the Coir ) Waiting on it to cool then making the humidity chamber with some foil after i tape up the holes
Ive been misting it regularly while it's in that dry rack.
Thanks everyone for the input idk what id be doing without you lovely people! π
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Just cut or poke a hole and drain it if it bothers you. Many cultures do the same thing in a tray or tub when they really get going. It is just making a lot of metabolic water due to how much mitosis is happening. if you look close you might notice a silvery or bubble like separation between the liquid and the mycelium as the mycelium usually forms a tight hydrophobic barrier. Looks fully colonized so a little natural exposure to the outside world will be fine. If you drain the fluid, give it to your favorite house plant. That yellow liquid is full of L-Amino acids and fancy polysaccharides that are super beneficial.
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: Nichrome]
#25960306 - 04/28/19 09:19 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Just cut or poke a hole and drain it if it bothers you. Many cultures do the same thing in a tray or tub when they really get going. It is just making a lot of metabolic water due to how much mitosis is happening. if you look close you might notice a silvery or bubble like separation between the liquid and the mycelium as the mycelium usually forms a tight hydrophobic barrier. Looks fully colonized so a little natural exposure to the outside world will be fine. If you drain the fluid, give it to your favorite house plant. That yellow liquid is full of L-Amino acids and fancy polysaccharides that are super beneficial.
That's really interesting stuff thanks for sharing, biology ftw!. I did not know all that yellow water could help my avocado tree(she's struggling in the pot)! Dang it.. well now i know.
I already disposed of the bag so ill have to wait for my other one to start mitosis
Thanks again for the tip πππ½
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Re: Grow kit disaster! π [Re: Nichrome]
#25960311 - 04/28/19 09:21 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just an example of how well these cultures can handle water....
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