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OfflineBrian Jones
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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26005890 - 05/21/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I hope your right but I am worried.


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26005894 - 05/21/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Worried? Who cares who wins it changed absolutely nothing but what people bitch about on shroomery :rofl:


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: bodhisatta] * 3
    #26006087 - 05/21/19 06:52 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It changes nothing only when an establishment candidate is elected, such as Biden.


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26006823 - 05/22/19 06:10 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
Worried? Who cares who wins it changed absolutely nothing but what people bitch about on shroomery :rofl:



Mmm strongly disagree. If we get a centrist or right winger things will continue to deteriorate.


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: YangSupporter] * 2
    #26006836 - 05/22/19 06:26 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I think if Biden wins the nomination, and then he loses.....the party may split(anyone disagree?). If it's two party, look for the cannon fodder of establishment Dems and Repubs to morph into one party while the "socialist Dems" have their own.


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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26006875 - 05/22/19 07:08 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I think if Biden wins the nomination, and then he loses.....the party may split(anyone disagree?). If it's two party, look for the cannon fodder of establishment Dems and Repubs to morph into one party while the "socialist Dems" have their own.



The democratic party is already pretty fractured its coalition of various factions. Social democrats, centrists, even center-right like Biden.


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Re: Joe Biden announces he is running for president [Re: YangSupporter] * 2
    #26007196 - 05/22/19 10:59 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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The democratic party is already pretty fractured its coalition of various factions. Social democrats, centrists, even center-right like Biden.



Be careful about calling Biden right.  A better term would be 'establishment dem'.

We generally tend to think of establishment candidates as right or republicans, because the establishment first took over the republican party with Reagan and Bush, who gave our country away to the rich.  But Clinton and Obama were establishment dems, who continued doing that.

I think today we have the establishment party (both republicans and democrats) who only differ on non-economic issues (LGBT rights, abortion, etc), and we have the progressive party, who wants to reestablish our middle class.

We've slipped from #1 in the world before Reagan to #21 in the world today in terms of the country's median wealth as a result of establishment politics.

Our billionaires, on the other hand, are doing better than ever.


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