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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950433 - 04/23/19 07:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Just condense your thoughts and make one reply at a time.


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 2
    #25950435 - 04/23/19 07:57 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Pastys post does contribute to the discussion because you're saying something is a success when you havent even harvested mushrooms from it yet.  My first bulk attempts I was convinced my jars were gonna succeed (cut some corners) and I was telling my friends to get ready to trip like the dickens and then all my tubs went green before the first flush. 

If 80% or more of your jars succeed I'll be blown away. Actually I'd say if 50% succeed I'd shit my drawers


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950446 - 04/23/19 08:05 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

U don't NEED vermiculite when doing grains and u don't need perlite either... Just coir and grain. I always shop around when buying a PC. U can find good deals out there. I got my first one on FB marketplace brand new never used for $80 and it came with 5 12packs of jars, 6 packs of extra lids and a whole bunch of canning stuff I could use for mycology. Best $80 I've ever spent! It has paid for it self a thousand fold.

I get what ur saying if ur just starting out why not give ur idea a try to get ur feet wet. Sure, but it doesn't replace a PC. I use my PC for alot more then just grain. Plus once u really get into this hobby, waiting 3 days for grains to get done would suck! Even if it does work.


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Psicomb]
    #25950457 - 04/23/19 08:10 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

pastys post was an underdeveloped opinion he should have thought harder about i dont cut corners i use what works and thats what everyone was telling me with pf tek and guess what 1 jar contaminated out of the bunch i did all of them fruited even tho everyone was telling me the same bullshit you are


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950458 - 04/23/19 08:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Dont fall for this troll.

No where does it say you need a PC. But PCs make life easier to the point that they become nessicities. If you grew more than a handleful of grain jars you'd understand why.

Popcorn is also a shitty grain. I'd explain why but.. :trolldance:

and stop with the multiple posts that shits annoying:crankey:

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
    #25950471 - 04/23/19 08:23 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

mush what you just said is all i was trying to get across a pc is good to have but fractional sterilization isnt out of the question i would actually like to know why popcorn is not a great grain was thinking about g2g to some rye with some of the popcorn jars sorry for the chain posts


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
    #25950477 - 04/23/19 08:27 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i have a pc i just wanted new people know fractional sterilization is viable


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950481 - 04/23/19 08:29 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Stop coming across like you've discovered fire with this realization. You'd get a better reaction.

Popcorn sucks because it's hard to properly hydrate and the larger hulls actually have less surface area than smaller easier to work grains like wbs blends, wheat, rye or even oats.

More surface area is useful for colonizing speeds and inoculation points.

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
    #25950488 - 04/23/19 08:33 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

thank you i will be switching soon :heart: :thumbup:


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 1
    #25950496 - 04/23/19 08:42 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Could the OP please stop needlessly bumping this thread. It may be a scintillating discussion to some but it’s disrespectful to other people’s threads to have this one constantly bumped by its OP. Thanks.

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 1
    #25950505 - 04/23/19 08:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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do you know its still illegal i can take pictures of one jar and get the information i need its funny you looked at it like that its better to have less posts and for people to think your new than to have a thousand posts with all your work out in the open for anyone to look at im sorry im careful



Do you know what exif files are? Download any image uploaded to shroomery and tell me what the source of it is. You won't be able to because uploading to the shroomery strips an image of its exif files. Without proof of ownership, you can't get plugged for shit. Besides in the 20+ years shroomery has been around, not one member has been plugged for posting on here, just fyi.

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pasty your teks are great but your post doesn't contribute anything



It does actually. It mirrors our standards on this site. If every noob could come in here saying dudes stop using good teks. My half assed method works great. Don't have any pics though, but take my word for it. I've done 200 jars with this! If we didn't tell them to step it up and prove your shit, this whole website would be rampant with terrible info.

If you're gunna post something controversial, try posting pics with it too. Otherwise you're gunna have a whole thread of skeptics, as seen here.


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Mad Season]
    #25950565 - 04/23/19 09:43 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i didn't know the shroomery did that you dont know whos been busted to say you do just shows what your level of ignorance is i still wouldn't want to take the chance i honestly have nothing to prove and BTW if you learn to read i actually enjoyed doing the pf tek its just a much longer more wasteful process that is over glorified and costs more money than popcorn and jars pasty's post didn't contribute to anything his post was actually the least informative piece of shit ive heard on the site from a trusted cultivator if your standards are from people who will never look at a different way of doing things have fun and stay in your box a pc is good to have but fractional sterilization works for grains its not a controversy its a fact


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 2
    #25950569 - 04/23/19 09:44 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Can someone close this thread please


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: foragedfungus] * 1
    #25950576 - 04/23/19 09:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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“I honestly have nothing to prove”
“fractional sterilization works for grains its not a controversy its a fact”




If you’re gonna make statements that end in its a fact, you do indeed have something to prove


And explain this?
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Get back to us when your jars are fully colonized, or better yet once you grow some mushrooms.

3 days ago you're a first timer who doesn't know if his first jar is 100% colonized. Today you claim to have made 200 jars with 100% success!?!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25945361

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: AyePlus]
    #25950584 - 04/23/19 09:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i already explained that you answered it i answered you


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950592 - 04/23/19 10:00 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i showed one jar because i started a month ago with grains i was trying to be humble about it but you scum bags read books by the cover obviously livng your lives behind a screen no worries i wont post anymore on this toxic site anyway have fun with your outdated teks


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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 1
    #25950594 - 04/23/19 10:03 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] * 1
    #25950598 - 04/23/19 10:05 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

No, you didn’t.

Looks like you’re a bald faced liar to me. And pushing crap mwthods with your lies to boot. I hope you get enough mushrooms to get your head where you obviously  need to go but I doubt you’ll have much success.

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
    #25950608 - 04/23/19 10:09 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

You are the one coming in with an attitude, claiming success.
Therefore it is up to you to support those claims.
Around here the way you prove success is with pictures of mushrooms grown using these methods.

The most ridiculous part of all this is that no one said fractional sterilization doesn't work.
It does work, so does steaming jars for 8+ hours. It's just that a PC is better, because it is faster, easier, and more reliable.
Just like no one said popcorn won't work, but there are better grains to use.

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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: foragedfungus]
    #25950616 - 04/23/19 10:14 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Three months ago asking for advice on how to start his first PF Tek.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25757189

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