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psychemyco
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The use of a PC in mycology
#25949426 - 04/22/19 04:37 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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When i started this hobby i was afraid to use grains since i had no pressure cooker and so many people from the shroomery will tell you its a waste of time without one, ive successfully done over 200 jars with no contamination in less than a month using fractional sterilization and popcorn ,the PF tek is good but honestly it is the biggest waste of time even though 9 out of 10 PF jars made it with no contamination and fruited amazingly they gave me much less than i would have liked compared to shoeboxe's and other more fruitful tek's not hating on PF tek just saying any grain is easier faster and produces much more over the same period of time just letting new mycologists know screw the pf tek you learn all the same knowledge using grains you know what they say keep it simple stupid no need to put extra work and tons of extra time into something that you will not be satisfied with in the end.
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I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
Edited by psychemyco (04/22/19 06:36 PM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] 2
#25949712 - 04/22/19 08:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice word castle. Unfortunately your experience doesn’t mirror that of most people. Too bad you didn’t have something more convincing to show us.
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mushboy
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
#25949716 - 04/22/19 08:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i steamed(no pc) a few batches of wbs for 8hrs back in the day. THAT was a waste of time but pf tek is hardly a waste.
go buy a pc.
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
#25949727 - 04/22/19 08:10 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Word castle...
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Secotoid
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Failboat]
#25949749 - 04/22/19 08:20 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many years back I had circumstances require the Tyndall approach (fractional sterilization) frequently. Done right that one absolutely works. Reliability is another matter ( things able to survive it aren't ubiquitous but don't seem to be rare is perhaps appropriate?) Also it's very inconvenient. I could easily buy a pressure cooker with an entry level in time lost.
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Alchemycologist
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Secotoid]
#25949759 - 04/22/19 08:24 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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You did all those jars within a month. So they likely haven't gotten to a second or third flush. Come back when they do.
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Nikanoru
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Although the yields may not be as great on PF vs Grain, it does serve as a gateway into making magic. One day you are making lil half pinters the next day you are making DMT. Anyone can pick up the PF tec and go to target or something and have a enough magic for personal use. Sometimes it is just relaxing to make some 1/2 pint jars and watch the lil buggers go nuts, not to mention it looks so fracking cool taking pics of lil half pint jars fully fruited.
Actually now I kind of want to make some...
Edit: Also, that's like 15 Jars a day man what the hell are you O.K LOL
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Edited by Nikanoru (04/23/19 01:14 AM)
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
#25950372 - 04/23/19 07:05 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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ive been fractionally sterilizing my grain for 2 hours 3 days in a row with no contamination maybe your experience differs
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#25950375 - 04/23/19 07:09 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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all im trying to say is that you dont need a pressure cooker if your just starting unless you have extra money for one the 3 days of sterilization is not hard and works the same in my experience
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Nikanoru]
#25950378 - 04/23/19 07:11 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i completely agree im not trying to hate on pf tek its an amazing way to learn the hobby and has done me very well but moving to grains im kind of upset that i was told i cant do grains since i had no pressure cooker which is bs
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#25950384 - 04/23/19 07:16 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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what would you like me to convince you with pictures? ill do a writeup once i get more jars ,a pc is nice to have but you dont need it unless your being really careless with your sterile technique or are too impatient to fractionally sterilize correctly
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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they are gearing up for the second
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: mushboy]
#25950391 - 04/23/19 07:25 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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8 hours is way too long my man i did it for 2 hours everyday for 3 days with no time wasted since i was harvesting, taking prints, and making LC during that time
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#25950395 - 04/23/19 07:31 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i understand you trusted cultivators swear by a pressure cooker but in my experience its just not needed just wanna let new mycologists that are struggling with money but still want to go through with the process know you can use fractional sterilization and it works just as well
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Secotoid]
#25950400 - 04/23/19 07:34 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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unless your staring at it while its sterilizing you are not wasting any time
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Pastywhyte]
#25950405 - 04/23/19 07:37 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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pasty your teks are great but your post doesn't contribute anything
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco] 2
#25950407 - 04/23/19 07:38 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Get back to us when your jars are fully colonized, or better yet once you grow some mushrooms.
3 days ago you're a first timer who doesn't know if his first jar is 100% colonized. Today you claim to have made 200 jars with 100% success!?! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25945361
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Grimsweeper
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: psychemyco]
#25950410 - 04/23/19 07:39 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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It costs about a hundred bucks to do a bulk grow with grains including the grain, the coir, the jars and the PC.
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psychemyco
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Re: The use of a PC in mycology [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25950416 - 04/23/19 07:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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a good pressure cooker is $80 to $300 jars are $8 a 12 pack vermiculite is $20 perlite is $30 popcorn is $2 or $3 a bag its not cheap for me and many other people who get shut down by the "get a pc or youll fail" it really turns people off to the hobby
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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psychemyco
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do you know its still illegal i can take pictures of one jar and get the information i need its funny you looked at it like that its better to have less posts and for people to think your new than to have a thousand posts with all your work out in the open for anyone to look at im sorry im careful
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"And then I heard one of them say
I know the night will turn to gray
I know the stars will start to fade
When all the darkness fades away
We had to steal him from his fate
So he could see another day"
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