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strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth
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hey
had a fantastic time today

sometimes euthoria happens

we should make a strategi for heaven on earth and implement that stragedy

we must gather a team of philosophers to make a stradegy for a heaven on earth

and then we must gather a team to implement it. we need a team of philosophers with philosophy like that life is positive etc. and who have knowledge about realizing life potential

part of the stragedy would be different school

we should learn about philosophy and moral in school and more art classes

we must learn that we must be here during the next ice age

the children must study buddhism

and learn meditation

the shools must have meditation. and yoga. to liberate the planet from distractions that we get it worse from

the art in the schools must be some of the best art

the nature of violence and suicide attempts etc. (that we get it worse from it and that they screw up our lives) must be made clear to the children and they should be taught and raised and influenced and affected in a way that like make them earnest about climate change (the reducing it) and hippie-like and rastafari like and really honest and happy about the politics. it's such a shame that we vote right


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Make love not war
And art
Save the planet
Fix the earth

Edited by Ferdinando (07/26/20 12:08 PM)

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Ferdinando]
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this is a good direction -> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/magazine/prison-abolition-ruth-wilson-gilmore.html

to heal society keep formulating a vision where jails are not necessary


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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Ferdinando] * 2
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IMO, heaven on earth is when realises that there is no heaven on earth outside of oneself.

As far as I can tell, it's been a complete shitshow since we moved out of our tribal/hunter-gathering style of existence, and from the way it looks to me, it probably will continue to be a shitshow, but even moreso.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
this is a good direction -> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/magazine/prison-abolition-ruth-wilson-gilmore.html

to heal society keep formulating a vision where jails are not necessary


a society that monitizes commodities will always need jails, simple truth

lot of people have their heads in the clouds


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evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil

freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Ferdinando]
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heaven and hell will always be at war. you can't have the positive w/o the negative, nature is even  just as much evil as it is good. the real heaven is ignorance of both. like rumi said there is a field

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
IMO, heaven on earth is when realises that there is no heaven on earth outside of oneself.

As far as I can tell, it's been a complete shitshow since we moved out of our tribal/hunter-gathering style of existence, and from the way it looks to me, it probably will continue to be a shitshow, but even moreso.


Seems like most people need to experience the shitshow to figure out what's really important. Hard to say how things would be if there were no shitshow.

No joy without sorrow. No pleasure without pain. etc.

Whether that's true or not I don't know, but seems to be. It's our nature to discover both heaven and hell.


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Rahz]
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vipassanna is chocolate from harry potter against the demtors

donald trump is a dementor

congratulations everyone!


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Make love not war
And art
Save the planet
Fix the earth

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
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redgreenvines said:
this is a good direction -> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/magazine/prison-abolition-ruth-wilson-gilmore.html

to heal society keep formulating a vision where jails are not necessary


How about instead of jailing people we just kill them immediately. Only the enlightened will be left....


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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this is proof that Icelander lives on in you


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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: redgreenvines]
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Yeah, the idea of heaven and ultimate perfection is a trap IMO. Like others have said, you need the bad to have any sense of the good ... Heaven on Earth would be a societal 100% acceptance and embracing of the fact that the details of this reality are not perfect .. not all good, not all bad. The structure is based on mathematical perfection, but the Walls of the House are only the borders for what goes on inside ...


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"When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw." - Nelson Mandela

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Re: strategies and implemention of those strategies for a heaven on earth [Re: porter]
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the idea of a better place translates as
"how can we make this place better"

Better-making is the task of the gardener in a garden.
The labor is one of love, and the result is essentially beautiful, peaceful, and a great backdrop for living and making art.

It is never about ultimate perfection, just about what shall we do next with our lives, our energy, our intelligence, etc.


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