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Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting?
    #25941339 - 04/18/19 10:57 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)
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First grow, just am not sure what to do. Golden teachers at 8 weeks. This is a 5lb bag. U wanted to wait till the soil was white too, by the looks of it should I start fruiting now?? I have a house prone to mildew, I wanted to keep it in the bag as long as possible at this point is doesnt seem like a good idea too. Any suggestions is appreciated!
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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Dionysus7]
    #25941344 - 04/18/19 11:00 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Pictures will help .. but do you have a 5lb bag of grain ? If so then yes you always wait till the spawn is 100% to fruit .. if you are talking about a substrate mixed with spawn then you can fruit at the time of spawning


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Dionysus7]
    #25941348 - 04/18/19 11:01 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Most of us don't differentiate between fruiting and colonizing once you have spawned your grain. You don't give enough information though. What tek are you using? 5 pounds of what? What method are you using? Why do you say soil? When you say white do you mean mycelium or mold? Not a whole lot to go on :shrug:

Honestly your question doesn't make any sense. Add pictures and expand on what you're saying.

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25941375 - 04/18/19 11:18 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

   
Ok the pictures did load, never posted on this site before only grow hydroponic canabis so i'm new to mushrooms. Anyway it is uncontained mycelium not mold. It is golden teacher strain. I have a fruiting chamber ready but I was hoping to fruit inside the bag. It has the filter air hole. It's going on 9 weeks looks really heathly but slowing down as it inches up the soil. I dont want to wait to long.
So I added a video of just the bag. The question I am asking is now that the rye and 1/4 of the soil is too. Should I fruit it? Can I wait to the soil is filled then fruit it. Will the mycelium not be heathly if I wait longer?

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Dionysus7]
    #25941380 - 04/18/19 11:22 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

9weeks if it was healthy it would be further along. That mycelium looks thick as hell

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25941386 - 04/18/19 11:26 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

U are good to mix it up :thumbup: u can cut the top off and mix it together (don't cut the filter off just the very top) U can just fruit it in the bag if u'd like. Roll the top back down when done and use a clip to keep it closed. Put it by a window seal or something. Wait for it to become fully colonized again and then open the bag a few times a day to fan it. Mist if needed but misting is normally not needed in these bags...

I had a similar grow kit when I very first started out. U should get some fruits from it but this is not a good way to grow! Like bod said its thick and bacterial but u will probably still get some fruits from it. Take it as a learning experience and next time don't put spores to grain, learn agar it will come out much cleaner that way!


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25941390 - 04/18/19 11:29 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Look at the bottom left corner looks super bacterial there to me ... dud you just put the sub on top of the soil?? That should have been mixed properly that myc wont grow through that thick ass wet sub this is 1 qt ms lgt to 4 qts coir verm after 4 days spawn... next time mix that bag up


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25941397 - 04/18/19 11:33 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Look at the bottom left corner looks super bacterial there to me ... dud you just put the sub on top of the soil?? That should have been mixed properly that myc wont grow through that thick ass wet sub this is 1 qt ms lgt to 4 qts coir verm after 4 days spawn... next time mix that bag up




Its a grow kit. They come like that. That was his question he was asking if he should mix the bag now


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Dionysus7]
    #25941399 - 04/18/19 11:34 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Use your hands (on the outside of the bag) to break up that mycelium & evenly distribute it throughout the bag. That's probably the only chance you have for that bag to reach 100% colonization. You want to wait till it's 100% to fruit it though.


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: TheMilkMan84]
    #25941412 - 04/18/19 11:38 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

They make them with grain and sub like that ?? Then you noc up your self ? I never seen one like that .. op next time I would mix all the grain. Up in the bag with the coir or whatever that is then noc it up...


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25941423 - 04/18/19 11:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

It’s an all in one grow bag from the looks of it, you noc up the grains and then once colonized mix with the rest of the bag.

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Jxshy12]
    #25941435 - 04/18/19 11:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that's weird I bet it was like 30 dollars too .. people gotta eat I suppose


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25941496 - 04/18/19 12:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Lol yea I think I paid $20 for mine yrs and yrs ago when I first started out. U knock it up your self thru the SHIP, wait for the grains to colonize then mix it together, wait again, then fruit. People dis grow kits on here all the time and I totally understand why! But I actually learned a lot from starting with one and I actually got a ton of mushies from it! It fruited 8 times before going bad! (Which is not the norm and I don't recommend them now)


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Apc123]
    #25941505 - 04/18/19 12:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I can see people wanting to get them when they start .. everything seems pretty scary or they just dont find this site before doing so .. its a good way to get cultures and prints I supposed to continue ..


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47] * 1
    #25941529 - 04/18/19 12:48 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah I can see people wanting to get them when they start .. everything seems pretty scary or they just dont find this site before doing so .. its a good way to get cultures and prints I supposed to continue ..



I don't knock people starting out with things that aren't agar->grains->spawn.

I do recommend that they don't do it again.

The thing is people need to know that they will keep up their interest in the hobby. Ease of entry is a good thing for a lot of hobbies since running deep costs a bit of money.

Like, say you had to buy a 23qt presto, 50# bag of grains, a few oz of agar, 500ct case of petris, and a mono or a dozen shoe boxes to start? That's super intimidating, but it's also what most hobbyists have within a few months :lol: .

BRF is still the best beginner entry I believe, but I didn't know that until I bought a couple bags of grain with a SHIP on it and made them bacterial as fuck. I spent about 2-3 months of chasing my tail and starting over on these, but I was getting mushrooms.

Whatever it takes to get you into the hobby is fine... Just fucking adjust your practices.

I feel SUPER awful for people who buy "grow kit bundles" that don't even include spores. Like where it basically a 66qt bin with grains, coir, and some kind of stupid humidifier and heating pad. I would think that vendors of those things would be better off just including like a tutorial of what to buy. I'd be so pissed off if I found out my $125 "grow kit" cost like $15 and change at home depot.

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25941531 - 04/18/19 12:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Agreed


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25941545 - 04/18/19 12:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Agreed




:lol: I assume, my post was really me just agreeing with you :wink:

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25941548 - 04/18/19 01:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

We are agreeing to agree ma'am Haha


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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25941838 - 04/18/19 03:37 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Well yes it's a movie question, but do not think for a moment that I can not understand this either. I mean you do not really know anything this you take it from spore to stomach. I mean no question is stupid then. Research gets you so far. I grew bud the same way, buy a seed, buy a hydro kit and until your first grow it's all figuring out a way you can do it. Once you have done it, you understand the important issues with each problem that arises. Really no question is stupid at my point in growing and I know it's no rocket science but its easy to get confused when you never done it before.

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Re: Do I let the soil turn white to? Before fruiting? [Re: Dionysus7]
    #25941859 - 04/18/19 03:43 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

No one said your question was stupid? And nobody is trying to make you feel bad for buying a grow kit.. just saying you could save money doing it your self .. most of us started off in the same boat so relax and smoke some of that bud you grow Haha..


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