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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
I bet the news coming out about Assange will be very intriguing :strokebeard:



Honestly? I expect something along the lines of "Assange found in hotel room, shot in head" within the next week.

His testimony could potentially hurt both Putin and Trump. Both people famous for not taking any chances.



Assange won’t be sleeping in a hotel room anytime soon


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods]
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I should have taken fal up on the signature bet. I wasn’t concerned so much that there was actually no evidence of “collusion” but that the report would not expressly state that there was (or that Barr would simply cover up that portion.) and of course, there’s the fact that Fal would refuse to recognize the significance of a paragraph like this:




So let’s examine what mueller actually says. Contrary to the spin from Barr, Xul and others; mueller never says there was no evidence of a conspiracy to coordinate with Russia. He says there was evidence, but it was insufficient to charge a crime.



Here’s a little nugget that blows Fals insistence that Manafort actions had nothing to to do with Russia. Manafort admited that his activities were intended to benefit Russia.


Edited by koods (04/20/19 11:37 AM)

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
I bet the news coming out about Assange will be very intriguing :strokebeard:



Honestly? I expect something along the lines of "Assange found in hotel room, shot in head" within the next week.

His testimony could potentially hurt both Putin and Trump. Both people famous for not taking any chances.



It's not Trump nor Putin who has expressed anger with Assange.  It's the establishment who is after him.


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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koods said:
Kryptos said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
I bet the news coming out about Assange will be very intriguing :strokebeard:



Honestly? I expect something along the lines of "Assange found in hotel room, shot in head" within the next week.

His testimony could potentially hurt both Putin and Trump. Both people famous for not taking any chances.



Assange won’t be sleeping in a hotel room anytime soon



Federal Hotel.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Kryptos said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
I bet the news coming out about Assange will be very intriguing :strokebeard:



Honestly? I expect something along the lines of "Assange found in hotel room, shot in head" within the next week.

His testimony could potentially hurt both Putin and Trump. Both people famous for not taking any chances.



It's not Trump nor Putin who has expressed anger with Assange.  It's the establishment who is after him.



I disagree. Not about the establishment being after him, that's true. I think he's a loose end connecting Putin to Trump. Which is why I'm guessing he's gonna get the Defected KGB Agent Full Service Debriefing treatment. Gina Haspel might try to get in on it too.

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
I should have taken fal up on the signature bet. I wasn’t concerned so much that there was actually no evidence of “collusion” but that the report would not expressly state that there was (or that Barr would simply cover up that portion.) and of course, there’s the fact that Fal would refuse to recognize the significance of a paragraph like this:





And you can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist.

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: qman]
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qman said:
koods said:
I should have taken fal up on the signature bet. I wasn’t concerned so much that there was actually no evidence of “collusion” but that the report would not expressly state that there was (or that Barr would simply cover up that portion.) and of course, there’s the fact that Fal would refuse to recognize the significance of a paragraph like this:





And you can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist.



Mueller's a stone cold by-the-book republican ex-soldier. His marching orders were "The President cannot be indicted". So he had two possible outcomes for the report: (1) The president* is innocent or (2) Here is a bunch of troubling evidence about the president*.

He most definitely did not put option one into the report.

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
qman said:
koods said:
I should have taken fal up on the signature bet. I wasn’t concerned so much that there was actually no evidence of “collusion” but that the report would not expressly state that there was (or that Barr would simply cover up that portion.) and of course, there’s the fact that Fal would refuse to recognize the significance of a paragraph like this:





And you can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist.



Mueller's a stone cold by-the-book republican ex-soldier. His marching orders were "The President cannot be indicted". So he had two possible outcomes for the report: (1) The president* is innocent or (2) Here is a bunch of troubling evidence about the president*.

He most definitely did not put option one into the report.



In your opinion, what is the most "troubling evidence about the president"?

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
  also stated emphatically in numerous instances that there was no evidence



The very next sentence

Quote:
in some instances, the report points out the absence of evidence or conflicts in the evidence about a particular fact or event.”
.



So there was evidence of collusion.



If there was evidence of collusion, there was also conflicting evidence showing that 'evidence' was bogus.

koods said:
I should have taken fal up on the signature bet. I wasn’t concerned so much that there was actually no evidence of “collusion” but that the report would not expressly state that there was (or that Barr would simply cover up that portion.) and of course, there’s the fact that Fal would refuse to recognize the significance of a paragraph like this:





Oh I recognize the significance of that sentence - Enlil previously made it clear.  Even if there is laughable evidence, that still counts as evidence.

That's exactly what the sentence you highlighted is about.  He didn't have sufficient evidence to support a fact, but that doesn't mean he didn't have any evidence.  :lol:

I'll still honor my offer for a signature bet with you.  We can let a mutually agreed to judge determine who is correct.


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
I think he's (Assange is) a loose end connecting Putin to Trump.



What evidence makes you believe this?  Or are just make believing?


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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This is my first opportunity to actually go through the report front to back and it isn’t pretty for Falcon and the no evidence of collusion crowd. It is not only packed with evidence of questionable activities, it says that in many cases, the investigators were not able to get to the truth of the matter becasue witnesses lied, invoked fifth amendment rights, destroyed evidence or never made themselves available for questioning or did not follow up on evidence of crimes that could not be charged due to justice department policy.

Note the highlighted section discussing the destruction of evidence and use of encryption by Trump Campaign officals.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Kryptos]
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qman said:
Kryptos said:
His marching orders were "The President cannot be indicted". So he had two possible outcomes for the report: (1) The president* is innocent or (2) Here is a bunch of troubling evidence about the president*.

He most definitely did not put option one into the report.



In your opinion, what is the most "troubling evidence about the president"?



:whathesaid:

That's a serious conspiracy theory you've got going on there.


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods] * 1
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It seems that most of the redactions so far are labelled as “harm to ongoing matter”

There are a lot of ongoing matters


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods]
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koods said:
This is my first opportunity to actually go through the report front to back and it isn’t pretty for Falcon and the no evidence of collusion crowd. It is not only packed with evidence of questionable activities, it says that in many cases, the investigators were not able to get to the truth of the matter becasue witnesses lied, invoked fifth amendment rights, destroyed evidence or never made themselves available for questioning or did not follow up on evidence of crimes that could not be charged due to justice department policy.

Note the highlighted section discussing the destruction of evidence and use of encryption by Trump Campaign officals.





I missed the part about evidence of collusion.  This actually confirms they were unable to find such evidence.


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
This is my first opportunity to actually go through the report front to back and it isn’t pretty for Falcon and the no evidence of collusion crowd. It is not only packed with evidence of questionable activities, it says that in many cases, the investigators were not able to get to the truth of the matter becasue witnesses lied, invoked fifth amendment rights, destroyed evidence or never made themselves available for questioning or did not follow up on evidence of crimes that could not be charged due to justice department policy.

Note the highlighted section discussing the destruction of evidence and use of encryption by Trump Campaign officals.





So the absence of any evidence is the "evidence"?  :rolleyes:

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: qman]
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qman said:
So the absence of any evidence is the "evidence"?  :rolleyes:



That's why they call koods the King of Make Believe!  :smirk:


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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods]
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koods said:
It seems that most of the redactions so far are labelled as “harm to ongoing matter”

There are a lot of ongoing matters



I believe a lot of it has to do with Assange, but other investigations as well.

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
This is my first opportunity to actually go through the report front to back and it isn’t pretty for Falcon and the no evidence of collusion crowd. It is not only packed with evidence of questionable activities, it says that in many cases, the investigators were not able to get to the truth of the matter becasue witnesses lied, invoked fifth amendment rights, destroyed evidence or never made themselves available for questioning or did not follow up on evidence of crimes that could not be charged due to justice department policy.

Note the highlighted section discussing the destruction of evidence and use of encryption by Trump Campaign officals.





I missed the part about evidence of collusion.  This actually confirms they were unable to find such evidence.



Lol. You are the master of spin. This post was specifically about the mueller team’s thwarted efforts to investigate matters, including DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE by the trump campaign.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
This is my first opportunity to actually go through the report front to back and it isn’t pretty for Falcon and the no evidence of collusion crowd. It is not only packed with evidence of questionable activities, it says that in many cases, the investigators were not able to get to the truth of the matter becasue witnesses lied, invoked fifth amendment rights, destroyed evidence or never made themselves available for questioning or did not follow up on evidence of crimes that could not be charged due to justice department policy.

Note the highlighted section discussing the destruction of evidence and use of encryption by Trump Campaign officals.





I missed the part about evidence of collusion.  This actually confirms they were unable to find such evidence.



Lol. You are the master of spin. This post was specifically about the mueller team’s thwarted efforts to investigate matters, including DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE by the trump campaign.



So they found no evidence.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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Well, they found no evidence of "Collusion", as that is not...a legal thing.

They found plenty of evidence of "conspiracy" and "obstruction", which are real crimes.

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Re: Official Mueller report: NO COLLUSION [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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The deletion of information isn't "evidence". What if some married guy deleted gay porn, that means Trump is guilty of some crime?

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