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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
I've seen people who have wine, vodka, beer, whiskey in their house, but they barely ever touch them.

How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?

I could never have alcohol in my house, I can't stop until it's gone

It doesn't matter how hard i try, if I have it in my house it's like an itch I keep thinking about it all day until I give in.







Just because I have something "euphoric" on hand/in my house doesn't mean I feel compelled to consume it :shrug: .


I've had alcohol/beers sitting around in my room for months, I normally only drink when hanging with friends, at festivals, or while camping, so I haven't had any desire to sit around and drink just because I have it available.....I've had a box of nitrous oxide sitting under my bed since new years and haven't touched it, I only dabbled with nitrous oxide when I take psychedelics or MDMA, so I haven't had any desire to touch it.....I've had packs of cigarettes sitting on my dresser for months with out being touched, I only smoke when hanging out with friends, at festivals, or while camping, so I haven't had any desire to smoke them....I've had several kilos of kratom sitting in my room for years now, but I still only take 1g as my dose.




I don't consume drugs just to "feel euphoric" or just because I have them on hand/available...I consume drugs for very specific uses and very specific occasions....I can have drugs sitting around for a long time until that specific use or that specific occasion arises.




About alcohol specifically....Sure being buzzed on alcohol can be a little euphoric, but I feel it's a rather lame and boring/dull drug and I don't ever have any interest in drinking when I'm at home or when I'm not with friends/in a social setting....I might have an occasional beer with dinner, a 6 pack will last weeks for me if I just have em' with dinner sometimes, but drinking to catch a buzz isn't something I do unless I have a reason/occasion to do so. Alcohol isn't interesting enough for me to just drink while I'm not in a social setting.




I honestly never have any cravings or urges for any drugs :shrug: . Sometimes a certain drug might sound nice to do, but it's not any sort of strong craving or urge to do it.






-OM

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
Heinrik said:
I've seen people who have wine, vodka, beer, whiskey in their house, but they barely ever touch them.

How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?

I could never have alcohol in my house, I can't stop until it's gone

It doesn't matter how hard i try, if I have it in my house it's like an itch I keep thinking about it all day until I give in.







Just because I have something "euphoric" on hand/in my house doesn't mean I feel compelled to consume it :shrug: .


I've had alcohol/beers sitting around in my room for months, I normally only drink when hanging with friends, at festivals, or while camping, so I haven't had any desire to sit around and drink just because I have it available.....I've had a box of nitrous oxide sitting under my bed since new years and haven't touched it, I only dabbled with nitrous oxide when I take psychedelics or MDMA, so I haven't had any desire to touch it.....I've had packs of cigarettes sitting on my dresser for months with out being touched, I only smoke when hanging out with friends, at festivals, or while camping, so I haven't had any desire to smoke them....I've had several kilos of kratom sitting in my room for years now, but I still only take 1g as my dose.




I don't consume drugs just to "feel euphoric" or just because I have them on hand/available...I consume drugs for very specific uses and very specific occasions....I can have drugs sitting around for a long time until that specific use or that specific occasion arises.




About alcohol specifically....Sure being buzzed on alcohol can be a little euphoric, but I feel it's a rather lame and boring/dull drug and I don't ever have any interest in drinking when I'm at home or when I'm not with friends/in a social setting....I might have an occasional beer with dinner, a 6 pack will last weeks for me if I just have em' with dinner sometimes, but drinking to catch a buzz isn't something I do unless I have a reason/occasion to do so. Alcohol isn't interesting enough for me to just drink while I'm not in a social setting.




I honestly never have any cravings or urges for any drugs :shrug: . Sometimes a certain drug might sound nice to do, but it's not any sort of strong craving or urge to do it.




-OM

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It's very easy not getting hooked when you have a good life, I wonder if you would be able to keep this level of self control if something really bad happened to you, something that makes you feel hopeless and depressed and you have that drug right next to you that can make you feel really happy for a couple hours more happy than you could ever feel naturally.

Edited by Heinrik (04/16/19 05:21 PM)

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
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I get the point about pot should be legal everywhere but holy shit you sound like a girl who had two wine coolers and starts sobbing about the troubles in her life.  A half hour, really? 

I go weeks happily drunk.  People smoke weed where I live.  They don't care, good for them.

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Barnaby] * 2
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I’m a recovering alcoholic and regular AA member. I don’t think either AA nor science has alcoholism figured out yet. If it’s genetic they haven’t isolated a gene.

This is a simple and maybe overly obvious point but I think if you have a psychological problem (perhaps even too small to be classified as a disorder) if it’s a problem that you don’t like and alcohol successfully masks that problem (perhaps anxiety or depression) you’ll be more prone to drink alcohol in unhealthy quantities.

I frequently make the point that if you’re drinking is problematic you can eliminate that problem simply by not drinking. That doesn’t get you to the root of the cause but it is undeniably that simple (and that hard)


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 2
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I'm an alcoholic and that has been my only substance problem.  It is the least healthy habit I ever took up.  I can fight the desire to drink if I have a fridge full of beer or liquor if I really want, but that is rarely what I want and it's a challenge.  I don't have much advice beyond to avoid drinking all day every day for any length of time if you recognize you have a problem with it, really hard to get back to healthier habits once you do.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: MorphinTime]
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Addiction is a weird thing. Some people cant stop smoking weed or smoking cigs or shooting heroin. Others are hooked on alcohol and love to drink everyday. Ive been addicted to nitrous before. Theres an addiction out there for all of us, and its up to us to either avoid it or learn self-control.

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
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Alcohol disinhibition makes you say fuck it and drink more. Basically liquid xanax

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Gorlax]
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Give enough ethenol to nuns and shit's gunna happin.  Some say alcohol be cunning baffeling and powerful.  I believe that.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Ive been addicted to nitrous before.



If you used to be addicted to nitrous, can you explain how the addiction ended.

Did you at one point believe you were powerless?

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
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Heinrik said:
openmind said:
..........I honestly never have any cravings or urges for any drugs :shrug: . Sometimes a certain drug might sound nice to do, but it's not any sort of strong craving or urge to do it.




-OM

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It's very easy not getting hooked when you have a good life, I wonder if you would be able to keep this level of self control if something really bad happened to you, something that makes you feel hopeless and depressed and you have that drug right next to you that can make you feel really happy for a couple hours more happy than you could ever feel naturally.






I don't really have "the good life"...I mean relatively speaking, sure, I have a roof over my head and clean water to drink and food in my stomach which a lot of folks in this world do not. So I have a "good life" compared to a lot of folks on this planet considering I have shelter, food, and clean water to drink.....

....but I really don't have much and my life has been incredibly hectic/stressful and depressing with a lot of anxiety over the past 2 years (and in general my life hasn't been glorious)...I have been going through one of the lowest and most difficult patches in my 33 years of life over the past couple years (long story).

I still do not have any issue with "self control" :shrug: .



Just because I'm feeling super depressed and hopeless and anxious and lonely, which I certainly have been over the past two years pretty much every single day, more so than any other point in my life so far......just because I'm feeling that way and because I have drugs on hand does not make me want to take those drugs so I can artificially feel "happy" for a few hours.

I'm even less interested in taking drugs when I'm feeling down/depressed & stressed out because if I start to feel "high" and "good" it's nothing but an artificial feeling and not genuine...and then after a few hours I'm back to "reality". It does not fix anything and doesn't make the "feels" go away.

I like to take drugs to enhance & celebrate things/occasions...not to drown out or artificially cover up my sorrow & lowly feelings.




With that said...I do smoke small amounts of herb in the evening/night and take about 2 grams of kratom a day...But both of those I'm using for medicinal reasons and not just to purely catch a buzz/get high on, I take the same amounts at the same time every day and do not increase my dosage to try to catch a high/euphoric feels. I've been taking the same amount of cannabis and kratom for many many years now, I take what works for me and I leave it at that.

And this isn't to say I don't ever "party", or that I don't ever get really loaded or never get super spun lol....because I do lol, but it's for specific/special occasions and not because I'm feeling depressed/stressed/anxious.






-OM


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: openmind]
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I drink until its gone or I wake up in a pile of regret... and vomit

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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i only like beer for the hops

alcohol is dumb

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: cannabinated]
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Yeah, well, M's are dumb, and marijuana is dumb,  and mushrooms are dumb.  Yeah, what else is dumb in your world?  :wonka:

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Barnaby]
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I wanna make a challenge, stay 24 hours without eating then drink two or three beers

That's what alcoholics feel when they drink alcohol

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
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ive gone 72 hours without food then drank, I dont really notice any difference then waiting just a few hours


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: gopher]
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You got boron based super powers we cant even fathom.
Just the thought makes me sick. Need that food to make it easier


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
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Because highs are subjective. That’s all it comes down to.

Booze does very little for me euphoria wise. I never understand how millionaires wreck their lives win it because if I was a millionaire, I’d definitely be doing other drugs besides booze lol.

Just as some people don’t like fish, some people just don’t like booze.


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Took a tab, then another tab, then somebody said to me
Nigga, why you babysittin’ only two or three tabs?
Imma show you how to turn it up a notch
First you get a swimmin pool full of acid, then you dive in it
Pool full of acid, then you dive in it
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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: KetamineAndHoes]
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my dog only eats white fish for some reason, she turned her nose up on some salmon


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
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I went a week without eating.  My record.  Just water, it really isn't hard.  Seriously.  Go hiking and camping where one finds water and it like finding gold.  Life is strange, the limits one sets on oneself on what one can go through or choose to. 

Your limits are your own besides the obvious ones.  Such as gravity.  Happens to many at the Grand Canyon, lol.  Somethings you can't debate with.  This Summer is going to be enjoyable.  Everything on the news is fear.  Just know what you are doing in life.  Wisdom before a Sasquatch takes me.

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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Barnaby]
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And yeah the shroomery and fakesunra is using my computer, blah, whatever.  Take a joke man.  Everyone in this world isn't mean spirited.

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