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Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? * 1
    #25936785 - 04/15/19 08:42 PM (9 days, 18 hours ago)

I've seen people who have wine, vodka, beer, whiskey in their house, but they barely ever touch them.

How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?

I could never have alcohol in my house, I can't stop until it's gone

It doesn't matter how hard i try, if I have it in my house it's like an itch I keep thinking about it all day until I give in.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
    #25936825 - 04/15/19 08:58 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

Ive got some news for you bud..


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
    #25936829 - 04/15/19 09:00 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

Quote:

Heinrik said:
I've seen people who have wine, vodka, beer, whiskey in their house, but they barely ever touch them.

How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?

I could never have alcohol in my house, I can't stop until it's gone

It doesn't matter how hard i try, if I have it in my house it's like an itch I keep thinking about it all day until I give in.




They have self control and you are a compulsive drinker. Having a liquor cabinet that you can offer your friends a drink from is a sign you are an adult now. 

I can hold on to any substance for a rainy day, I have had a gram of MDMA for like 7 years.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 4
    #25936830 - 04/15/19 09:01 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

most ppl dont get addicted to alcohol cuz drinking all the time is poisonous.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #25936858 - 04/15/19 09:16 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

I've never been into alcohol. I don't really enjoy the feeling of being drunk... so booze sits around my house forever.  Not sure if it's a coincidence, but my father was  huge alcoholic & I saw first hand what the addiction did to him.

Chronic when it comes to the cannabis though.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 4
    #25936869 - 04/15/19 09:21 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

You guys clearly don't understand how addiction works.

When you're an addict, you're not in control, your subconscious is in control and it is more powerful than anything you can imagine, it's like a powerful primitive beast you have to tame, logic and reason won't do a thing in helping you.

It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, intelligent or stupid, anyone can be affected by it.

This is a psychedelic community, you guys should know better, apperently psychedelics didn't teach you about compassion and empathy.


Edited by Heinrik (04/15/19 09:23 PM)


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik] * 2
    #25936886 - 04/15/19 09:27 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

genetics + environment


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik] * 1
    #25936906 - 04/15/19 09:41 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

Quote:

Heinrik said:
You guys clearly don't understand how addiction works.

When you're an addict, you're not in control, your subconscious is in control and it is more powerful than anything you can imagine, it's like a powerful primitive beast you have to tame, logic and reason won't do a thing in helping you.

It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, intelligent or stupid, anyone can be affected by it.





I think this is a really good observation. People that have never had a true addiction can't relate. It's something so foreign to them. I wouldn't expect them to understand.

And I also believe it's unfortunately sculpted into one's DNA. It's hereditary.
Of course there are many people who carry a gene that makes them more susceptible to addiction, yet never succumb to it.
That's because they never had the initial will to drink or do any drugs heavily.

But for us of those that do, we're fucked. And yet, addicts/ex-addicts are the people I enjoy being around most. It's who I can relate to most in their concepts of thinking and ways of looking at the world.
It's something pretty profound I think.

Nowadays having been clean for a long fucking time, this still all holds very true to me.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #25936915 - 04/15/19 09:45 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

I can see people having several bottles of alcohol around as decorations, only serving when guests are around. Want to drink one of your decorations? Just buy another bottle.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
    #25936933 - 04/15/19 09:58 PM (9 days, 16 hours ago)

Quote:

Heinrik said:
You guys clearly don't understand how addiction works.

When you're an addict, you're not in control, your subconscious is in control and it is more powerful than anything you can imagine, it's like a powerful primitive beast you have to tame, logic and reason won't do a thing in helping you.

It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, intelligent or stupid, anyone can be affected by it.

This is a psychedelic community, you guys should know better, apperently psychedelics didn't teach you about compassion and empathy.




Didn't really see where people weren't empathetic,you asked and some people answered truthfully. I'm like you. If there's alcohol in the house,I'm probably going to drink most of it and finish it the next night. Some people have addictive personalities, some don't.

People are able to not drink because they dont feel the need to drink.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Bondobih] * 1
    #25937085 - 04/15/19 11:28 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

OP I don't know where you get the idea that most people don't have a problem with alcohol. At minimum 10% of the global population is alcoholic. That is a statistical number that comes from Alcoholics Anonymous. There are a lot of people who are not alcoholics but are heavy-hitters and border on alcoholism so that 10% could be a lot higher. Some people say it's a progressive disease so I guess it might depend on where a persons at within that progression.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: StoneJackBaller]
    #25937097 - 04/15/19 11:37 PM (9 days, 15 hours ago)

As true as that is as far as the statistics, alcoholism as defined by AA and similar drug/alcohol programs by a lot broader margin than most people see it.

For example, they categorize people who binge drink as alcoholics. And that's the majority of that 10% minimum you referred to.

Not that it takes away merit from that statistic as binge drinking will without a doubt lead to true dependency and eventual addiction in a lot, but not all. Maybe not even most.

If I binge drink one night, I will want to continue drinking until I can't anymore. Therefore, I'm an alcoholic. And although I have more control over it nowadays after years of not drinking, I'm back to square one in a matter of a few days if I were to slip up.

Most of my friends, when they binge drink, the last thing they want to do is drink again the next day. It doesn't seem to even be a thought in their minds. They are not alcoholics, but are defined by AA as such.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: kr0nik0] * 1
    #25937126 - 04/16/19 12:02 AM (9 days, 14 hours ago)

I would definitely categorize myself as an alcoholic, and I can only drink like 1 night a week. I'll have a bottle of liquor sit on my fridge for an entire month before its gone. There are many levels to alcoholism, and as mentioned, many people will fall into one of these levels.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
    #25937130 - 04/16/19 12:03 AM (9 days, 14 hours ago)

Quote:

Heinrik said:
I've seen people who have wine, vodka, beer, whiskey in their house, but they barely ever touch them.

How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?

I could never have alcohol in my house, I can't stop until it's gone

It doesn't matter how hard i try, if I have it in my house it's like an itch I keep thinking about it all day until I give in.



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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #25937153 - 04/16/19 12:23 AM (9 days, 14 hours ago)

lol what are you talking about, its social accepted and definitely one of the most used drugs in the world next to caffeine and tobacco.


Edited by staytrippy420 (04/16/19 12:26 AM)


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: staytrippy420] * 2
    #25937177 - 04/16/19 12:41 AM (9 days, 14 hours ago)

Drinking alcohol for Euphoria for me is very similar to cocaine both of which I don't care for a whole lot, make me feel like I have ingested poison and the end result it's just not worth it. Six beers is Max for me or I would pay.

Everybody's body chemistry is different - I can be compulsive with pot, other people have other issues sex, gambling, opiates, cigaretts, anger, drama, blah blah blah.  Some might say if you spend a few hours a day on a drug site learning how to make and take drugs you might have a problem. It's all relative OP is tryna be honest, I can't stand the insensitive tone from a few - what's your Vice man?  Care to share?


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: StoneJackBaller]
    #25937187 - 04/16/19 12:51 AM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

I've had lots of vices over the years.. Xanax, codeine, cocaine, alcohol, ect, ect.
But these days just weed, kratom and mushrooms :super:

Im just surprised by the OP. You can buy liquor everywhere in the US, gas stations, grocery stores, LIQUOR stores..
To think that most people don't have an issue with it is crazy to me. Go people watch in front of the clubs on a Friday night, you'll see some crazy shit go down.

Now thats not to say everyone who has a problem is going to be a fuck up.
Theres lots of people addicted to hard drugs that still hold down decent jobs and shit..
IMO alcohol is a hard drug in the same class as crack and heroin.


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: staytrippy420]
    #25937229 - 04/16/19 01:32 AM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

maybe effects wise but you aren't going to OD typically


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Konyap]
    #25937233 - 04/16/19 01:35 AM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

alcohol has put me in the hospital more times then all other drugs combined lol
Im just speaking from my experience.. didn't mean to offend anyone with my "insensitive tone"


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Re: Why most people don't get hooked on alcohol? [Re: Heinrik]
    #25937236 - 04/16/19 01:38 AM (9 days, 13 hours ago)

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How is this possible? Do they feel less euphoria from it?




there are many reasons, and im pretty sure this is one. i find alcohol to be one of the most lackluster and boring drugs out there. it seems to me that i am not getting the same effects from it that others do. i believe there have been studies on the exact mechanism behind this feature, but yeah, people have different nervous systems


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