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Uknown mushrooms * 1
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Habitat:
Found growing on some grass mulch and leaves in my veggie garden,Kwa Zulu Natal South Africa

Gills:
White fading to purple/black

Stem:
2-5mm White

Cap:
10-50mm Chestnut brown fading to white

Spore print color:
violet/purple

Bruising:
Lightly bruising blue towards base of stem when drying and where cut/handled


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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Looking like a Psilocybe species to me. Very interesting, will be following this thread


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P. Ovoideocystidiata                          P. Cyanescens                                P. Northwest
Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC
Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Colonel]
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Psilocybe natalensis?


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P. Ovoideocystidiata                          P. Cyanescens                                P. Northwest
Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC
Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Colonel]
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It's got the purple bruising alright

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: mojotoke]
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:popcorn:


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: SemiHunter]
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SemiHunter said:
:popcorn:


:whathesaid: only commenting so I can keep following this thread (is there a better way to do that?)

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
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Follow the trails Obi Wan

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
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In the upper left hand corner(right under your name) is a link that says threads.  It will take you to all the threads you’ve posted in.


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Amanita86 said:
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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
In the upper left hand corner(right under your name) is a link that says threads.  It will take you to all the threads you’ve posted in.


I know, that's why I replied to this post - so I could follow the thread. I was wondering if there was a way I could follow the thread without having to reply. Some sort of subscribe function would be nice. Maybe voting on the post will make it come up under my threads?

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
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https://mushroomobserver.org/235235

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: donjonson420]
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donjonson420 said:
https://mushroomobserver.org/235235


:whathesaid:


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P. Ovoideocystidiata                          P. Cyanescens                                P. Northwest
Colonel's Roatan/Honduras LC
Thai Lipa Yai Monotub Grow

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Colonel]
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Thank you to all for replying to my post and showing interest.

Im still at a loss to what they REALLY are but have nontheless done my best to take some spore prints.
Im going to try add some more mulch and possibly some woodchips to establish them there (hopefully)permanently... and mushroom spirit willing they will magically appear again.

In the mean time Im trying as best I can to learn the correct procedures/techniques to grow my own.

Have tried a few times before in the past - but all tries have failed due to contamination.most likely due to not being sterilized properly.

Hopefully with all the great information available from fellow members I will be posting up some pics of my own first successful grow...or be asking for help on my faliures...haha

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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Personally, I get great success cultivating wild varieties using Petri dishes. It's an inexpensive method, & you can get around 20 dishes from one pressure cook, afterwards you're well able to spot which ones are contaminated and discard those.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: mojotoke]
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This is psilocybe ovoidiocystidiata, nice find,  they've been showing up in South Africa for a while now.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
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Doc9151 said:
This is psilocybe ovoidiocystidiata, nice find,  they've been showing up in South Africa for a while now.


Have those finds been posted on here or documented in some way? I searched but only found a thread discussing the similarity of the two species.

I remember there was a find of P. cyanescens from South Africa a while back, too, which apparently was
also suspected to be P. subaeruginosa - if I'm not entirely mistaken. Interesting nevertheless.


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
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Doc9151 said:
This is psilocybe ovoidiocystidiata, nice find,  they've been showing up in South Africa for a while now.



P. ovoideocystidiata hasn't turned up outside of North America.  This is Psilocybe subaeruginascens.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I do believe both of these species mentioned in previous posts are on record as been collected in South Africa ....although not at all common.
Looking at various pictures of both species - I can see similarities in both-however with my limited knowledge of wood loving psilocybes I would not be in a position to rule one out over the other.
My main objective is is to hopefully maintain the location for future flushes and preserve this variety via spore prints.
Thank you to all again for showing interest.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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Zifozonke said:
I do believe both of these species mentioned in previous posts are on record as been collected in South Africa


Alan Rockerfeller is an expert in the genus Psilocybe, he studies them for a living, and I don't know of anyone who would know more about the genus than him. So if he says that P. ovoideocystidiata hasn't turned up outside of North America, I would take his word for it.


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Doc9151 said:
This is psilocybe ovoidiocystidiata, nice find,  they've been showing up in South Africa for a while now.



P. ovoideocystidiata hasn't turned up outside of North America.  This is Psilocybe subaeruginascens.


Are we sure those 2 aren't the same thing?

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: grimlock]
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Alan, you're saying that the observations posted on mushroom observer in Germany,  Switzerland,  South Africa and 1 in Australia are wrong? I could almost swear that you posted an ITS of ovoidiocystidiata from South Africa and the one in Australia has an ITS sequence posted with the observation that you performed, but that could have been a cultivated specimen judging by the pictures.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
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grimlock said:
Are we sure those 2 aren't the same thing?


Yes - The ITS sequence of Psilocybe subaeruginsacens and P. ovoideocystidiata match 639/656(97%), easily enough to separate them.

Doc9151 said:
Alan, you're saying that the observations posted on mushroom observer in Germany,  Switzerland,  South Africa and 1 in Australia are wrong? I could almost swear that you posted an ITS of ovoidiocystidiata from South Africa and the one in Australia has an ITS sequence posted with the observation that you performed, but that could have been a cultivated specimen judging by the pictures.


They aren't wrong, but they are cultivated from spore prints received in the mail.  The ITS sequences from Africa I have posted have been for P. cyanescens and P. subaeruginascens.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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I feel blessed - as a newcomer to the forum to have been so quickly pointed in the right direction - again thank you too all for the interest and sharing of knowledge on my find.
I have just found fellow member (olive)s tek to cultivating p.subaerugiosa (thank you olive...).....wow!!...Ive been so inspired...have already added a thin layer of some old pine chips over the area and have got some small pieces of stem bottoms in some wet cardboard on the go....the journey has now began...

Got some more rainy weather closing in so have decided to go take a walk in a nature reserve close by this weekend  and see what I can find.
It is very swampy and wet.
Ill post up some pics if I find any thing of interest.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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I would definitely make spore prints, cultivating your own is super easy, it just looks intimidating,  but once you do it, you will see the simplicity of it all.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
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Are spores to agar a thing? Never used spore prints

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: mojotoke]
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mojotoke said:
Are spores to agar a thing? Never used spore prints


Yes.


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: mojotoke]
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mojotoke said:
Are spores to agar a thing? Never used spore prints


Agar is the best way to make sure that you have clean mycelium,  it allows you to clean up any contaminants before you put it in jars.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
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Just a small update for those that were interested in my recent find in the garden...
I added a thin layer of old pine chips to the pathway where I discovered the mushrooms.

It seems that the mycelium has appreciated it and is peeking thru the chips here and there..
http://

There has been abit of rain about and a few more fruits have popped up here and there.....much to the enjoyment of a few snails and slugs that have been munching on them ;but ive been leaving them to spread their spores and just hoping the mycelium will grow strongly into the chips im laying down.
http://http://


cheers guys
z

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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So these p.subaeruginascens have made a small appearance in my garden again.

They have not come up where they first appeared in my vegetable garden path but are now appearing about a meter away on pieces of a old fallen down tree.
Looks like the mycelial network is all over it.


Not many...

Enough for some more prints and have tried cloning some of the larger fruits.

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Zifozonke]
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Cool. Lucky you to have such beauties growing in your own garden!


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: Anglerfish]
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Or a garden at all

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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: handeloh]
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Sorry to bump an old thread. Just checking in to see what Psilocybe subaeruginascens looks like.

Such a cool find!


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Re: Uknown mushrooms [Re: RogerTheRetard]
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RogerTheRetard said:
Sorry to bump an old thread. Just checking in to see what Psilocybe subaeruginascens looks like.

Such a cool find!



This fits well with what I consider to be P. subaeruginascens, but my concept of this species might change as more data comes in.

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