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Is religion a race?
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religion noun re·li·gion | \ ri-ˈli-jən \ Definition of religion 1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion
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race noun (2) Definition of race (Entry 3 of 3) 1 : a breeding stock of animals 2a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics 3a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species also : a taxonomic category (such as a subspecies) representing such a group b : BREED c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL] 3
#25937168 - 04/15/19 10:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your question would make a whole lot more sense if you added judaism to your poll, which would make answering the question slightly more difficult. This definitely sounds like a leading question though.
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Care to explain how Judaism is a race?
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL] 1
#25940260 - 04/17/19 04:41 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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The way I think about it is, Not all Muslims are Arab. And being Arab does not instantly mean you are Muslim. Arabs look like they have brown skin. Not all people with brown skin are arab. Mexicans have brown skin and most mexicans are not muslim. Also, Pakistan is a majority Muslim country and they are technically not arabs. People from Pakistan have tanned skinned but I think they are usually lighter skin than a arab. I talked to a guy from pakistan on facebook and he told me he is white although he looks a little tan.
So skin color and Muslim are not the same thing. Thus religion is not a race. A white person or a black person could technically become a muslim if they wanted too, not just people from the middle east.
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Indeed. I agree.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
#25942086 - 04/18/19 05:44 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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There’s a state vs dude case where they determined that specific laws designated for the native american church can’t be restricted to strictly native americans due to freedom of religion. Try that in court if you got the balls but if you put any weight in that decision then religion is not restricted to race and vice versa. Christianity is an open house, all are invited.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
#25945008 - 04/20/19 02:44 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Punjab and sihk are largely a religion tried to a certain region and race.
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Do you consider them a race then?
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL] 2
#25946965 - 04/21/19 06:51 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Religions are not races; however some races are named after the religion of their people because they're an ethnoreligious group. What's so difficult about this XUL?
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This was posted in response to someone else claiming religions are races.
You would have to ask them.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL] 1
#25946990 - 04/21/19 07:12 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh ok, this is the HAH I SHOWED YOU thread.
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It's a poll designed to gather consensus or a lack thereof.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
#25946994 - 04/21/19 07:15 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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that is pretty much the point of a poll
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If would be really selfish of a race if they told other races that they couldn’t join their religion because they were a different race. People would probably be sued for racial discrimination if that happened.
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You can become a jew but not an ethnic jew for instance. I don't think any of them are discriminating
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#25949574 - 04/22/19 06:44 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Converting to Judaism is nowhere near the same thing as being born a Jew....
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#25949598 - 04/22/19 07:00 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for reiterating what I just said.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: chibiabos]
#25966935 - 05/01/19 08:20 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am an athiest, but part of the genetic test came back ashkenazi jew.
Suck a science dick XUL.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#26256388 - 10/16/19 03:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was in the assertion that Constantines Bible plagiarised ancient ‘ways of life’ ... from the Gnostic secs , Jewish sage mystics, Egypt , Mexico , Vedic India , Zoroastrianism , Tibet , Sumerian culture and those native tribes that share correlations with all , Chinese mythology , ancient Jainism , list goes on , the crusader colonist would of loved to of buried them all these are very mysterious ways of life if you ask me and should all be seen to connect and compliment eachother as one big ass scripture of sacred science of the metaphysical aspects or spirit... .all quite obviously born from nature’s Gnosis thru their use of entheogenic substance...
Ones I find most fascinating to study at the moment is Jainism and Zoroastrianism Vedic India In general is very quantum like in its approach might I add !
When do the homework we can see which ones are their to groom for other agendas , and it’s usually orthodox
If atheists let the groomer orthodox perception of god a man as if to be personified on some cloud , a mere man with beard ruin his hers own pursuit for truth then , that’s a terrible shame if you ask me ——————-
Check this
https://www.academia.edu/9293937/The_entheomycological_origin_of_Egyptian_crowns_and_the_esoteric_underpinnings_of_Egyptian_religion
Now let’s observe and say that Jesus is a plagiarism of Horus (lets also say that Allegros assumption on Fly Agaric was terrible when Infact it was Cubensis , same goes for G Wasson regarding Soma!) , and also say that is symbolic for the envelope of consciousness itself , kundalini, or what ever else may seek to unify species .... I think the scope is inconceivably waay above our heads And far too vast for us to understand the full picture since most of it is on a metaphysical scale
-But being atheist definitely doesn’t help the search for truth , just as the misled orthodox plagiarisms of forgotton ancient mythological cultures doesn’t , they are both actually quite harmful to the truth ....materialistic science will never satisfy the search neither does it know the true nature of everything , only arrogance would ensue... science teachers go through grooming process just same for example like your common clergy catholic priests do , they are restricted In what they are taught , and ignorant to anything else outside of its ideological assumptions and perceptions .....
I tie this up with a large quote -
"The more I read, the more puzzled I was by the order of the universe and the disorder of the human mind, by the scientists who didn’t agree on the how, the when, or the why of creation.
Then one day this student brought me Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason. Reading Kant, I began to suspect everything I was taught. I no longer believed in the known God of the Bible, but rather in the mysterious God expressed in nature.
The basic laws of the universe are simple, but because our senses are limited, we can’t grasp them. There is a pattern in creation.
If we look at this tree outside whose roots search beneath the pavement for water, or a flower which sends its sweet smell to the pollinating bees, or even our own selves and the inner forces that drive us to act, we can see that we all dance to a mysterious tune, and the piper who plays this melody from an inscrutable distance—whatever name we give to it —Creative Force, or God—escapes all book knowledge.
Science is never finished because the human mind only uses a small portion of its capacity, and man’s exploration of his world is also limited.
Creation may be spiritual in origin, but that doesn’t mean that everything created is spiritual. How can I explain such things to you? Let us accept the world is a mystery. Nature is neither solely material nor entirely spiritual.
If we want to improve the world we cannot do it with scientific knowledge but with ideals. Confucius, Buddha, Jesus and Gandhi have done more for humanity than science has done. We must begin with the heart of man—with his conscience—and the values of conscience can only be manifested by selfless service to mankind.
Religion and science go together. As I’ve said before, science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind. They are interdependent and have a common goal—the search for truth.
Hence it is absurd for religion to proscribe Galileo or Darwin or other scientists. And it is equally absurd when scientists say that there is no God. The real scientist has faith, which does not mean that he must subscribe to a creed." --------Albert Einstein
So is it a race ..... each advanced ancient culture scattered across the globe had added own contributional piece to the great puzzle , so In away yes it is , but they all interconnect so it also isn’t anything separate or divided (never use to be) , just that each race has own piece to the jigsaw and the only thing that stopped the full picture being complete was the crusader doing all the dividing and conquering....
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
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Is religion a race? Usually it's not, but sometimes it is more or less (obviously this topic was always coming around to the Jews who more or less are a race). Social issues don't fit into simple yes or no answers.
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#26260143 - 10/18/19 05:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I offer a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can find an XUL post that isn't cringey race baiting.
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Near Dylan said: I offer a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can find an XUL post that isn't cringey race baiting.
Hehehe
Interestingly, the assertion of religion bring a race was made by Enlil.
I just put a poll here to see if people agreed with him.
They do not.
How does that fit your narrative.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
#26260200 - 10/18/19 06:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like a glove.
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Near Dylan said: I offer a $1,000,000 prize to anyone who can find an XUL post that isn't cringey race baiting.
You don't have $1,000,000 Doesn't matter though as Xul doesn't have a post that makes anyone a winner
Religion is a club.
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Your logic.. lol
If this post is "racist," then that makes Enlil a racist since he espoused the idea.
Is that your official position?
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
#26264824 - 10/20/19 07:45 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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No Xul that isn't how it works
I don't get an official position by your weird associations
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Looks official to me.
Talk to Enlil. It's his idea. I'm just measuring it.
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#26264838 - 10/20/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I definitely just added "official position" to my Xul bingo card.
All you try to do is go around saying what people's official positions are based of you trying to make assumptions and connections
PROtip: you cannot give someone else an official position.
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PROtip: you cannot give someone else an official position.
I thought you would never ask.
Ask me anything about any topic and I will answer it.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
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Is religion a race? No, but that’s a simplification of a larger argument for low IQ retards to make one side of the debate seem smarter and the other wrong. The better question would be “Are religion and ethnicity linked?” And for that the answer would certainly be a definite yes. Example include Arab Muslims, WASPs, Amish, Copts, most of the disparate Orthodox Churchs, Sikhs, Shinto and the Japanese, Norse pagan religion and historical Scandinavia, descendants of the Spanish and Portuguese in relation to Catholicism, Lebanese Maronite’s, the list goes on and on. This is because culture is linked to ethnicity and religion/spirituality is a huge part of culture.
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Very good answer. The guy you were responded to is already banned, for life I think.
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Yeah, but there are different races and different religion races. Not all muslims are arab, not one christian is muslim, not all christians are baptist, not all humans are alive race, not all alive race people are conscious that they are alive race humans, etc. It really doesn’t matter, the deeper you dig your way into concepts the more detailed ways you will find to dress simple things.
You can try and put a tag on every way you could divide people into categories, but as long as you don’t see the validity and truth in all of them and the futility and fallacy in all of them, categories are just illusions of what you believe them to be in that instant in time, which is also valid, but makes it difficult to compare with other perspectives of validity, some people may think their way of assessing the world is ultimately true, well.. everyone is right and nobody is ever fully right about anything. You cannot perfectly describe how a Christian race should behave for it to be true, or how an arab race is fit to be described as such. Nobody can ever be right about anything, that is the way of how thigs come and go in nature. Me neither, just by saying this I made it so that other people can come and disagree with me and be right on their own.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: Milk-away]
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Historically, religion has been associated with people who have a race.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
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Judaism is probably the only religion that can be seen as also a race but it's not as easy as it sounds. If your mother is Jewish then that makes you Jewish too. Whether or not you practice the religion of judaism, you would still be a Jew based on family lineage.
But even somebody without the family lineage can become Jewish later in life. So you really cannot 100% tie the race and religion together.
It would have been interesting if you added Islam to the list. A lot of people confuse middle Eastern people as Muslim. Most people from India are Hindus but then when you go east or west of India you find a higher population of muslims. Muslims are just people who practice islam. I think this is where most people confuse the race with the religion. A lot of people assume everyone from the middle East is a muslim.
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Being a jew is neither a religion or a culture or a nationality. It's some clown car clusterfuck of all 3. Somehow all of them and none of them at the same time. A superposition of jew.
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Near Dylan said: Being a jew is neither a religion or a culture or a nationality. It's some clown car clusterfuck of all 3. Somehow all of them and none of them at the same time. A superposition of jew.
it is very confusing, i suspect by design.
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Judaism is definitely where things get more interesting for sure. I am not even really sure what I think about that myself, but that is probably just because I am woefully uneducated on the topic.
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Re: Is religion a race? [Re: XUL]
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