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-=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=-
    #2593277 - 04/23/04 01:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well since i was a newb once(and still am), and theres millions of newbs around. I decided to post a tiny thread here on different Agar recipes and the Nutrient charts. could an admin sticky this for a while so some newbs can read up on this?

so lets start this train

MEA (Malt Extract Agar) - i recommend this! Rated: A+
- 1 Liter of water
- 20 grams agar agar
- 20 grams barley malt sugar
- 1 gram peptone (optional)

PDA (Potato Dextrose Agar) - Rated: B
- 1 Liter of water
- EDIT: boil 300 grams of slices potatos in 2-3 liters of water, then add the milky water to the agar recipe.
- 20 grams agar agar
- 10 grams dextrose
- 2 grams yeast (optional)
- 1 gram peptone (optional)

OMA (Oatmeal Malt Agar) - Rated: D (too many contams)
- 1 Liter Water
- 80 grams instant oatmeal
- 20 grams agar agar
- 10 grams malt sugar
- 2 grams yeast (optional)

DFA (Dog Food Agar)- Never tried this...
- 1 Liter of Water
- 20 grams dry dog food
- 20 grams agar agar

CMA or CGA (Cornmeal Malt/Glucose Agar) - Haven't tried these...
- 1 Liter Water
- 20 grams agar agar
- 10 grams cornmeal
- 5 grams malt or glucose
- 1 gram yeast (optional)

Note: anything that is optional is just something that can boost the growth speed and health of mycelium and also provides more nutrients for faster/bigger fruiting.

Supplement charts

Nitrogen and carbs
- 2 grams yeast or 1-2 grams peptone
- 2 grams oatmeal or oat bran
- 2 grams rye or wheat flour
- 1 gram soybeal meal
- 1 gram spirolina
- 2 grams high quality dog food

End-substrate Supplements
- 3-5 grams sawdust
- 3-5 grams powdered straw (just chop it up finely)
- 3-5 grams sugarcane bagasse, etc...

Instructions on how to cook and prepare agar are already posted in other forums and is a basic... these are just different variations for the newbie at heart... Enjoy!


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2593335 - 04/23/04 02:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ]
    #2594075 - 04/23/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2594170 - 04/23/04 10:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

>PDA (Potato Dextrose Agar) - Rated: B
>- 1 Liter of water
>- 300 grams potato water (from boiling potatos in 2-3 liters of water for an hour)

This is not quite correct.

You want water from boiling 300 grams sliced potatoes in 1 liter of water for 1 hour and then added water to 1 liter.

The recipes are here:
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23367


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: Anno]
    #2594304 - 04/23/04 11:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sorry i didnt quite say it right... your right though, you boil 300 grams of potato slices in 2-3 liters of water and ur left with a kind of milky watery stuff cause most of the water evaporates...


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ]
    #2594343 - 04/23/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

2 grams high quality dog food




High quaility dog food! Isn't that a misnomer? Or are we talking from a dogs point of view :wink:


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    #2594377 - 04/23/04 12:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2599495 - 04/25/04 01:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2599543 - 04/25/04 01:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think you forgot to mention these recipies were taken directly from GGMM and edited only slightly...


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2599769 - 04/25/04 02:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

GGMM? Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms?... yes they are in that too! but these recipes were GIVEN to me by david aurora... he visits santa cruz often, thats where he lives if i am correct... he was here for the fungi festival and i asked him for some agar recipes...


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2600071 - 04/25/04 05:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ThatDaltonGuy said:
you boil 300 grams of potato slices in 2-3 liters of water




2 to 3 liters is a big difference, and will make very different mixes.

I use

Potato Dextrose (Yeast-extract) Agar (PD(Y)A)
broth from boiling 150 grams sliced potatoes
in 500ml water for 30 minutes(add water to 500ml)
(You can use 5 g of instant potato flakes instead)
9 g agar agar
7 grams dextrose( = glucose, or 10 ml honey or corn syrup )
1 gram brewers yeast or yeast-extract (optional)

So using your recipe, I would use 300 g of potato to 1 liter of water,
not 2 to 3, which would make a weak mix.


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2600537 - 04/25/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ThatDaltonGuy said:
GGMM? Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms?... yes they are in that too! but these recipes were GIVEN to me by david aurora... he visits santa cruz often, thats where he lives if i am correct... he was here for the fungi festival and i asked him for some agar recipes...




I think you're full of bullshit..Sorry.


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: r2_]
    #2600619 - 04/25/04 12:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

bullshit for what... meeting david? dude hes friends with my teacher tamara, he used to bring her family home baskets of morels during the season... she knew hime while she was growing up, and she introduced me to him... hes a fruitcake... and he is always at the fungi festival here in santa cruz... i got those recipes from him... if you dont believe me thats your own deal but its true.


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2604500 - 04/26/04 02:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

finaly 200 views on this post!


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2604746 - 04/26/04 03:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

200 views eh. You should take a look at your rating :wink:

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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: Erik006]
    #2605014 - 04/26/04 04:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This person gives such bad advice and his rating comments are a warning!!!!!( check him out ) I think he is a narc. Yes he is a narc.


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Re: -=Newbies 411 Agar for n00bs=- [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2606004 - 04/27/04 12:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

why does everyone have such a problem with me? narc? wtf is a narc?


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