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What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics)
#25931173 - 04/12/19 06:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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These jars are on day 8 and are looking weak AF and slow to grow. This is my first attempt at mycology and I have absolutely put the time in reading/researching daily. I followed Bod's TEKS for Agar, Oat Prep, and A2G with no problems except my jars have never took off. This is my 2nd set of jars. 10 on 1st attempt= FAIL 10 on 2nd attempt= . Temps for spawn have been 68-70* F with natural sunlight form window. My thoughts: Weak myc on agar, grains too dry, or lids with SFD (1/4") hole not enough GE. I'm stuck and need help if anyone has the time. My heart is in the right place and I am not giving up on this.
Edited by 5deadlyvenoms (04/14/19 08:49 PM)
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931202 - 04/12/19 06:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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8 days is nothing man. If you’re serious about this hobby, you’ll need to gain some patience. And I don’t see anything wrong with those after that amount of time. But I’m fairly new as well.
Edited by Psilanthropist (04/12/19 07:03 PM)
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Psilanthropist]
#25931207 - 04/12/19 06:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks normal
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: JHOVA]
#25931214 - 04/12/19 07:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like 8 days.. just curious.. what temp are you keeping them at? I used to leave them in my basement which is like 65-68ish.. my last jars i kept on top of my grow tent which was bout 75 and it was a massive difference in speed.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Psilanthropist]
#25931215 - 04/12/19 07:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ha, 8 days. Not to be rude, give that single quart usually 14 days to see 50% Once you get to clones, then you might colonize faster. Usually take 30days to see 100% for me, after two shake and sets, I've learned not to mess with it. Find something else to do, more agar work. Wait til you get to bags, five quarts take forever...
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Mr. Funguy]
#25931219 - 04/12/19 07:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah.. this hobby will make you learn to wait or just quit I think that's why guys end up with rooms full of tubs.. wanting something to do
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: icetech]
#25931235 - 04/12/19 07:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is my first grow on day 17
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Aeser]
#25931240 - 04/12/19 07:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Got pics of the cultures?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: icetech]
#25931250 - 04/12/19 07:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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icetech said: Looks like 8 days.. just curious.. what temp are you keeping them at? I used to leave them in my basement which is like 65-68ish.. my last jars i kept on top of my grow tent which was bout 75 and it was a massive difference in speed.
Usually 68-70ish, but the temp may have fallen to lower 60's as I was not home for 2 days and maybe contributed a bit. Do you recommend turning the heat upon on them icetech?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931260 - 04/12/19 07:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Got pics of the cultures?
Give me a minute and I'll throw some up. I do not believe that I have the original cultures, but I can show the 3rd transfer taken from about 2 weeks ago if you feel this would help. Wouldn't mind getting an opinion on those as well. I'll post them...........just need a minute or 2.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931276 - 04/12/19 07:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here they are, cleaning up the GT&B+ tonight for T4.
Edited by 5deadlyvenoms (04/14/19 08:50 PM)
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931304 - 04/12/19 07:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why are you taking giant trandfers?
Try to cut a diamond style hatch mark as tiny as possible, like a mini tik tak toe. You want the smallest piece you can take.
Honestly those cultures look like ass
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931307 - 04/12/19 07:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you get opinions about the cultures before going to grain?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Neowynd8]
#25931313 - 04/12/19 07:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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top 3 look ok. ...ish
the ones in the bottom right area dont even look like cube myc. the bottomest right one looks like straight mold.(and the one above it)
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931341 - 04/12/19 08:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks mushboy, still working getting good prints. Do you think my MS syringes are bacterial? This is my 3rd transfer and they really have not been looking great thus far. They were not from Shroomery. I followed every TEK and recipe and about the 2 week mark, they all get really fluffy and some bacterial. I've tried different recipes and everything I can think of. I've done 141 dishes already between germination and transfers. It's not for lack of effort or pure laziness. Please remember, I am new at this and don't mind criticism, but if I need to clean something up or do something else then please tell me. Please take no offense to this, but telling me they look like shit is neither encouraging or helpful. My reasons for mycology are not recreational and if you care to discuss further, I would welcome the conversation.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy] 1
#25931350 - 04/12/19 08:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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that looks like a nute % issue to me.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931352 - 04/12/19 08:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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id get new spores. you can access the marketplace
just keep practicing. best advice i can give is to make smaller neater transfers. yours are really jagged like they were ripped out or something.
are you sure those are 2% the cultures that are healthish looking are also really dense. they look like they are growing on 4% media imo
edit: jhova beat me to the nutes
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: JHOVA]
#25931358 - 04/12/19 08:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: that looks like a nute % issue to me.
Thank you JHOVA, last one was 2% LMEA with 8g Agar in 400ml+ of water. What would you recommend?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931364 - 04/12/19 08:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: id get new spores. you can access the marketplace
just keep practicing. best advice i can give is to make smaller neater transfers. yours are really jagged like they were ripped out or something.
are you sure those are 2% the cultures that are healthish looking are also really dense. they look like they are growing on 4% media imo
edit: jhova beat me to the nutes

Thanks mushboy, Marketplace in 4 days for me. I will hit my 90 day requirement by then. I am going to trash the MS syringes I have as I am not happy with the results to date. I know its not the TEK that I've been following because the advice and posts here have been amazing. Has to be the syringes and I appreciate your help very much.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931365 - 04/12/19 08:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wouldnt say it HAS to be the spores but if you made 100+ dishes and thats the best results then ya, id get new spores fo sho' read this
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931370 - 04/12/19 08:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: id get new spores. you can access the marketplace
just keep practicing. best advice i can give is to make smaller neater transfers. yours are really jagged like they were ripped out or something.
are you sure those are 2% the cultures that are healthish looking are also really dense. they look like they are growing on 4% media imo
edit: jhova beat me to the nutes

Also with the nutes, I used Briess Golden Light Dry Malt Extract on the last pour at 8g with 8g Agar and 400ml+ of water. Maybe I should switch back to the LMEA that I was using from Out-Grow?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931374 - 04/12/19 08:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i wouldnt say it HAS to be the spores but if you made 100+ dishes and thats the best results then ya, id get new spores fo sho' read this
Yes! You are the shit! Thank you for this, I will read tonight. It's frustrating when you see other members with there first crack get plates that look amazing and I'm getting nowhere near this kind of uniformity.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931375 - 04/12/19 08:32 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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that % sounds about right. i dunno. heres LME agar at 9g per 500. 3 transfers off the swab germ plate
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931377 - 04/12/19 08:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I run LME that high myc gets really "fuzzy". Weird for sure.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931396 - 04/12/19 08:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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it really depends.
same batch of agar. different variety and genetics.
 aa+ its all bunched up and ugly.. who knows how it will turn out. but ill keep transferring until i get something i like.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931406 - 04/12/19 08:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said: it really depends.
same batch of agar. different variety and genetics.
 aa+ its all bunched up and ugly.. who knows how it will turn out. but ill keep transferring until i get something i like.
I will do the same, is it worth cleaning up the ones that I posted taking a tiny piece of the outside edges?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931426 - 04/12/19 08:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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yah the top 3 look like they got something good going on. focus on them
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: mushboy]
#25931496 - 04/12/19 09:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome, thanks.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25931526 - 04/12/19 10:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's wrong with the spores? Do a little better with your transfers and you'll be fine. That said there be Thai Lipa Yai around when you get to the marketplace
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Failboat]
#25932703 - 04/13/19 03:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: What's wrong with the spores? Do a little better with your transfers and you'll be fine. That said there be Thai Lipa Yai around when you get to the marketplace
Thanks Quirkmeister92, not sure if there is anything wrong with the spores. They are GT and B+. The GT's have looked like garbage on ALL transfers to date and I have 3 so far. The B+ has developed better and appear more fluffy than the GT's. When I cut into the edge of the B+ for transfers, it seems to deflate a little or least it seems. B+ more uniform and thicker for sure throughout and thanks for the advice.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25932844 - 04/13/19 05:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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My jars can take up to a month to colonize. Id just be patient. U should be able to get on the market place soon and get some spore prints to work with. Hit me up and I can send ya some
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: Apc123]
#25932936 - 04/13/19 05:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Apc123 said: My jars can take up to a month to colonize. Id just be patient. U should be able to get on the market place soon and get some spore prints to work with. Hit me up and I can send ya some 
You are awesome Apc123, so much love here and I'm impressed. Been at it for about 4 months now and no way am I gonna throw in the towel. Too much to gain from this experience- persistence and patience to name a couple. Just finished some of the better looking B+ transfers (#4) with mushboy's help and keeping an eye on the 10 jars that I have going now at day 9. My only regret it not finding this site sooner.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? Grain Spawning (pics) [Re: 5deadlyvenoms]
#25932948 - 04/13/19 06:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trying to get it right...........
Edited by 5deadlyvenoms (04/14/19 08:51 PM)
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