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Inorpos
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Hi Everyone!
I'm browsing the forum for a while and my eyes were grabbed by the grass seed tek. Thankfully with PF tek i had plenty of success before! So with agar i succeeded to colonize 8 little jars with no contams. Then i made the 50/50+ casing, the recipe was same what is used for the PF cakes. I used boxes inside the terrarium for growing. Put a 1.5 cm casing layer on the bottom, 4 cm colonized grass seed in the middle and 1 cm casing on the top. After two day the mycelium started to take over the casing and about two weeks later i got my first flush. And here is my question.. i got only 3-4 tall and normal cap sized mushrooms and a few aborts. After the first flush its giving 1-2 normal mushrooms about every week. I think i missed something with this tek.. Used shotgun terrarium with 4-5 cm perlite layer on the bottom. On the top of the perlite the boxes were put. Maybe you can give me some advice what did i do wrong..
Here is the box what i talked about:

Here is a strange one, which was growed on pure grass seed (no casing or whatsoever, just watering the bottom of its container). I wonder why it get so fuzzy 

Many thanks!
-------------------- Save water, dilute it!
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Hippiebait
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Inorpos]
#25926920 - 04/10/19 01:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never thought of a liquor bottle. Shame I don’t drink. So what you just cover it with tinfoil to pressure cook?
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25927050 - 04/10/19 02:39 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So most of my fist transfers were totally fucked so I didn’t bother photoing them all. However these 2 plates may make it. I beleive the few black spots to be sediment from the grain soak and should be sterile.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25927386 - 04/10/19 05:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How does one know when a plate is clean enough/ enough transfers in to take grain. If my new t’1s I just did tonight turn up super clean are they good to go? Do I need to be on atleast t’2 or t’3 to assume it’s really clean dispite appearance?
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25927394 - 04/10/19 05:54 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let them grow out more. It's better to let them spread some so you can see the cleanest looking growth. Plus, you'll give hidden contams a chance to show themselves. Look at some of the agar pics on the agar threads. You'll see lot's of good examples.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Subfinder] 1
#25927620 - 04/10/19 08:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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good advice. you just have to learn what clean myc looks like. The problem is, it can look a few different ways. Most of the time contams are pretty obvious but some times they are very sneaky. The best way any of us have ever learned to put it in words, in my opinion, is "clean myc looks.... clean and organized". I think organized is a great word for it. One reason that a few tiny transfers is a good idea is that it slims down the genetic variation enough that you are not having to look at myc on top of myc on top of myc on top of ... All of these layers make it kind of hard to tell clean myc from mostly clean myc with a little bacteria or mold in it.... Or just all mold. "thinning the herd" makes organized and clean myc much easier to see.
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Hippiebait
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These detailed descriptions keep helping tremendously!!! I new to let it grow out but wasn’t sure about more transfers. Now I know though!!
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Quote:
FrankRhizo said: I use a 2in roll of saran wrap, double wrapped plate. Hasn't come off yet. Probably easier to take off than MP tape.
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verum subsequentis said: Definitely easier two take off than mp tape. Way way way easier. You don't really need two inch rolls though. i cut mine at about 3/4 of an inch. Just a smidge taller than a petri dish.
This was amazing advice. It took half of the ducking around out of making my plates making them way less likly to be contained. Thanks
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25928840 - 04/11/19 01:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do these jars look contamed or just really rhizo? Got a few like this
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25928857 - 04/11/19 01:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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When taking pics for id purposes. Take a few and look closely at them. If you can't tell what the hell you're looking at, we certainly won't be able to. I can't tell you much from those pics. I don't think it looks good but the light reflections are really fucking up my view.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25928893 - 04/11/19 02:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Almost certainly fucked. Cultures can sometimes d strange things and be fine but it looks very problematic. Those super rizho shoots are almost definitely trying t get away from the mold (and bacteria) that are colonizing those grains. If you want, let it grow out 90 % and then shake the bastard and see how it recovers.
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Their 90/more now I’ll shake them all. They are g2g from what I beleive to be somewhat clean but who knows I’m still learning.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25929259 - 04/11/19 04:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So the jars broke up easy and shook well. They were mostly rhizo where eating up the uncolonized last little bits. Well see🤷♂️ Anyways I feel as if my transfers are making progress. Hopefully after 1 or 2 more transfers I’ll be clean neat and organized. Here’s the progress.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25929796 - 04/11/19 11:54 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's lookin pretty good man. nice
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Hippiebait
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Sweetness!!!
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25930014 - 04/12/19 06:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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 I think this one looks even better.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25930026 - 04/12/19 06:39 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're certainly heading the right direction now. Let that plate grow out to the size of a quarter to 50 cent piece, and post a couple good clear pics and we'll help you decide where to take transfers from.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Subfinder]
#25930044 - 04/12/19 06:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool I have a bunch of plates that are clean like this just a few days behind so the fun is about to start!! Atleast for a little while.
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Re: Teach a newb to grow magic [Re: Hippiebait]
#25932412 - 04/13/19 12:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey all I got a few plates that may be ready for transfer🤷♂️ I have about 28 plates left and I’m trying to limit spending. Although I will buy plates if I need to. I have lots of clean t’1s that are a few days behind also so I really don’t want to transfer junk as I don’t need to. So where would u transfer from if u would. Golden teacher clone. 2 plates.
 Equador cluster clone. I have 3-4 clean t1s just 2 days behind.
 B+. This is from a big fruit I cloned and then grew out on brf. I put it on this crappy plate of chunky agar with lots of sediment that I thought was for sure no good. Surprise!!! No contams as of yet and it’s clean neat and organized!! Thoughts?
 Can I make transfers right from this b+ in a few days and spawn with those transfers long if it’s clean?
Edited by Hippiebait (04/13/19 12:53 PM)
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