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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Soccrates]
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Big fan of whole brown rice over here too. On my first ever grow and despite only steam sterilising at the beginning and with a lot of noob fuck ups, I've had a fairly minimal contam rate. I have access to vermiculite now so I'm giving pf tek a go too but I'm pretty happy with the results and simplicity of wbr thus far.

Got my first pins couple days ago and I'm fucking excited :crazy2:

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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Soccrates]
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Maybe I did this wrong, but I tried this with a few jars for the fun of it, I didn't have any success.

Soccrates said:
Oh, and a quick run down for those unfamiliar

2oz brown rice and 3oz water are added to a quart jar. The jar is sterilized for 90 minutes with inverted lid. Inoculate, and wait. MS inoculation colonized in ~3 weeks, and lid is loosened.Allow thejars to see some light. Pins beginforming in 1-2 weeks. After harvesting the cake can be rehydrated by adding a small amount of water to the jar for several hours.

That's literally all there is to it.

Yes sh4dows. It is an invitro grow. You may be correct that the McKennas published it first. I believe they had a more complex method though. I wasn't a big fan of theirs though, so i am not intimately familiar with their work. I do know that it was first written about in 1974 at the latest



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Re: The quart jar way [Re: goffa]
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Really?

Since it's only been 2 weeks, I'm gonna guess you got contamination or no germination. It hasn't been long enough for othe problems to have arisen.


Idk, i have had success scraping a spore print over the jars on my kitchen table


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Soccrates]
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It has actually been a month. I made up my batch before the original post.  I was using a tek I saw on reddit a while back.

A couple of jars were contam, a couple were no germination. You were correct in those assumptions.


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: goffa]
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Oh. I got the impression you did it because of this thread.

It's hard to blame contamination on the grains though. At this point it almost has to be improper sterilization, or bad inoculation.

Idk about the germination thing though. Maybe bad spores?  Did they work elsewhere? Or perhaps the water content was too low. I've seen a few different ratios of rice/water for using whole rice so maybe you were on the dry side and then evaporated too much during sterilization is the only thing that makes sense if the spores were viable. They will germinate on pretty much anything moist and warm even if only to immediately die


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: goffa]
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I personally am not concerned about risks. It's a grey area where I live. I was just making a point about investment plus risk vs. Rewards, no need to call names or accuse others of childish behavior.


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Professor X]
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Sorry, no offense meant. It was definitely not directed at you, or anyone in particular I just mean, it's not like weed that smells up the whole house and requires a big light, the only thing that would give you away is if you were to do something stupid like go around bragging about your clandestine grow op.


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Soccrates]
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I might give it another shot. Rice is pretty cheap.


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: goffa]
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I would. Something must have been wrong. I never had a failed batch, and I didn't even know what I was doing at first.

Pollock, who (afaik) originally Authored the tek recommended inoculation via agar. This would of course be beneficial. Though it detracts from the simplicity. And in the 70s they weren't going online the nice clean cultured spores we do. Would have been a dirty print they found growing wild.

He also, for the record didn't specify the 3 oz of water I said. His instructions stated 1/3 to 1/2 cup water and 1/4 cup rice.

Trial had led me to 3 oz. More water may lead to better germination, but slower growth as the rice will become mushier and more solid a water increases.


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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Soccrates]
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Huh...
I jst skimmed over this thread and havent done any research about it yet, but i dnt see why brown? rice couldnt be used in place of oats or rye berries as grain spawn.

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Re: The quart jar way [Re: Feasoghorm]
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It can. it tends to stick together, so shaking isn't possible. You could precook rinse and add gypsum. If you get it right it canbe shaken, but at that point it would just be easier to use other grains


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