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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26160993 - 08/30/19 03:12 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

So with the humidity does it need to go up to 99 then go down to like 80 something for awhile or can it sit around like 92 or will that saturate the sub?

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: YarnDi]
    #26161000 - 08/30/19 03:18 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The cycling of humidity is the key to the entire fruiting chamber. Others hold constant rh and do fine but I really see a difference the more I’m able to ramp evaporation and you do that by hydrating the case then pulling in dry air then repeating if you hold constant rh you won’t get as much evap


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26171090 - 09/05/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks everyone! Also I should note that a good starting place for your timers is
Fogger 3min on 10 min off
Fan 3 min on 9 min off
Start your fan on the 2 min mark after your fogger comes on that will creat a repeating cycle.



If that's a good starting point for pans what would a good starting point for tamps be?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: KapnDank]
    #26171108 - 09/05/19 04:51 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

For tamps I run the fogger for about 5 min (at 75% power) then the fan for 5 min with 15 min down. I change settings constantly tho depending on how trays look. It only takes a few grows to hammer down how to dial and what you want your trays to look like at what stage


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26184217 - 09/12/19 02:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Hey man, just a quick question:

I've germinated my spores and performed 2 transfers to clean up and narrow down the genetics. I now have 5 plates growing cuttings from a single plate I took from my first transfer. I'm thinking of using each plate to inoculate a batch of grain over the course of a week or two as my PC is only so big (around 5/6 jars per cook), and then storing all of the jars in the refridgerator and growing out each batch over the course of a few months. I considered doing a single grow then cloning a good specimen and growing that out, but it would take me around another month just to clone and spawn, and that's not including any transfers to clean the culture (not sure how important this would be at that stage). I would like to get a good batch rotation going for the winter but I'm a little worried about being left with a sub-par sub-strain. Do you have any thoughts on this? Is it a bad idea to go ahead and inoculate all those jars from a culture that I haven't fruited before? It's a Hawkseye print, the cultures look good, and after the transfers I'm sure it's clean enough (I've had only the slightest contamination on a single plate that wasn't sealed properly, it was definitely something that got in from outside), so assuming I prepare the spawn, sub, and FC correctly I was thinking I would be in for a good chance of getting good flushes, but I'd like some input if you would be willing.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26184231 - 09/12/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah bud go ahead and put em all to grain. I do lots of agar work and I end up putting most of my dishes to grain. You never know which ones are going to contain really good genetics then once you have trays fruiting you can start taking clones and finger your favorite iso’s. There is safety in numbers you’re going to have some failures so keep plenty of back ups at each stage


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26184295 - 09/12/19 03:20 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Aweomse, thanks man, I feel more confident! I'll have to make a log and let you know how it goes.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26184303 - 09/12/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

For sure man def do.
What FC are you running?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26185205 - 09/13/19 02:14 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

so for my first grow ever i got ahold of some pan cyan spores not really knowing what i was getting myself into as far as cultivation teks... i got a lot of work to do and i’m trying my best to really understand everything as i go but i do have a bit of a learning curve that i’m dealing with.

question about ph, is the desired ph acquired through pasteurization or do i have to add fulvic acid at some point?

first post ever, a bit shy as far as asking for help but here i am lol.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26185438 - 09/13/19 07:47 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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For sure man def do.
What FC are you running?




I was thinking of going for the monotub setup you described, but I think a martha with trays would be a bit safer. I'm interested in volume, but again, I'm still fairly inexperienced and the Martha seems a little simpler and easier to dial in. I could always get a second one on the go. Have you tried putting trays on each shelf and not alternating them from side to side? So each shelf is covered with trays. i'm wondering if you would have noticed that it prevented the mist from getting to the casings as you got further down the martha.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26191168 - 09/16/19 08:16 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Really appreciate this info dude. Love the ingenuity in all of your setups actually.  :thumbup:

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Doggmatic]
    #26191612 - 09/16/19 12:06 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Wow this tek is impressive.

so I just got some tropicalis spores to germinate on malt extract agar and I'm doing the first transfers today.

Ive got a couple questions, Sorry if these are dumb I'm a panaeolus virgin.

1) is there a reason you dont use wbs? Thats all I have at the moment for grain. I'll probably try the lc to bulk route you mentioned. Can you explain how you go about it? Do you inoc it in the trays? And approximatly how much lc for what size trays?

2) how does this setup sound to you? my greenhouse is very simple just an ultrasonic humidifier on a timer piped into the roof and a few vent holes cut. Should that be sufficient or will I just frustrate myself?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: John_1098]
    #26191749 - 09/16/19 12:57 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

There are a few ways to do this, I personally don’t like LC as much as A2G2B but it will work asura is the man to talk to about LC, I still put my LC to grain before bulk. As for the FC my tek is unique in that it is specifically set up to cycle humidity and maximize evaporation on surface, there are other tent styles That just run constant humidity and a fan that I have seen good looking grows come out of but I wouldn’t know exactly how they’re set up I strongly standby the cycling most people have said they are going to switch to my set up but it definitely can be done more than one way I have found those on more I increase my evaporation the better my pen sets are


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26192014 - 09/16/19 03:04 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I gotta study this one, Jake is the pan man with the plan.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: SFS96]
    #26196526 - 09/18/19 09:23 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Hey JOC, love your set up man. You might no me from DMTWorld.net as ALX8721. I currently just added my Honeywell HEPAClean Filter and It looks like the my fan is not sucking air from the filter rather the hose on the humidifier. What do you use to stop this from happening? I appreciate you Dr Gonzo!!! look forward to this grow. I am following everything to the Tee, except for one thing, the drip pan. I found a pan that fits perfectly for the martha tent listed.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: ALX8721]
    #26197090 - 09/19/19 09:16 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Hey bud yeah I can’t login to Dmt world atm, Use a check valve


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26197566 - 09/19/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I see, yeah, the app is down, but if you go through browser you’re golden. I’m stepping back from posting there. Still working with the spore trading group as it was an idea of mine. But I’m jumping over here for all things mush. Recently opened this account and haven’t done much with it but lurking. I see you’re pretty active here so I figured why not. Thanks for the info homes! I’ll grab one of them things.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: ALX8721]
    #26197859 - 09/19/19 04:57 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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I see, yeah, the app is down, but if you go through browser you’re golden. I’m stepping back from posting there. Still working with the spore trading group as it was an idea of mine. But I’m jumping over here for all things mush. Recently opened this account and haven’t done much with it but lurking. I see you’re pretty active here so I figured why not. Thanks for the info homes! I’ll grab one of them things.




Look who showed up :lol:

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26197922 - 09/19/19 05:18 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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...I should note that a good starting place for your timers is
Fogger 3min on 10 min off
Fan 3 min on 9 min off
Start your fan on the 2 min mark after your fogger comes on that will create a repeating cycle.



shouldn't it be fogger 3 min on 10 min off nad fan 2 min on 11min off? with fan starting 2 min after fogger starts? basically you're using 13 min cycles on the timer.
using a 3 on 9 off for the fan will cause it to over lay into the fogger cycle, causing it to run a minute earlier on the second and the at the same time with the fogger on third cycle after the initial cycle?
i just tested this and my RH is dropping to low 60s for about 20 minutes.
Also, using a check valve doesnt work as the fog is heading the same direction the fan is pulling from.
Please let me know where I may be missing something, homes. Ive been sitting at my tent for hours trying to get this thing right, so far the average RH of the tent is 65% running it this way.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Asura]
    #26197926 - 09/19/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Oh shit, wuttup Asura??? Never thought Id see the day the infamous Mr. Jones with his lovely rack would be calling me out on Shroomery! Beautiful! Just put a smile on my heart friend!!!


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