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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26780337 - 06/24/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Cubes all run in it but they don’t need that much moisture and less u adjust you may get water damage on your fruits, Tamps/Mexicana do fine but you also need to dial it back a bit subtropical don’t like it it’s way too much fae for them .


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26782380 - 06/25/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Right on, thanks.
Another question - do you still just use tape to secure your hose to the humidifier? And if so, do you have to remove/replace it every time you refill the humidifier with water?

I have to remove my hose every time I refill the humidifier. just annoying having to cut out a bunch of little pieces of tape to fasten the hose back on the humidifier every 24-48 hours.

The only idea I’ve had is getting a waterproof or plastic-based clay/molding material and molding it to the shape necessary to create a seal around the hose to keep the fog from escaping.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26782543 - 06/25/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey man, just want to say thanks for putting up this thread, got me to where I wanna be... there’s several others to whom I owe gratitude but it’s your tek I’ve been following. It’s a cloned culture from my first grow last year, had a few catastrophic failures in between and now this, think I could have achieved a canopy if it wasn’t for the mix up with the timers... oh well, still chuffed! Can’t believe the potency.




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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26783175 - 06/25/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I upgraded my humidifier I need to update it in my tech but I now use a 12 head house of Hydro fogger in a tote that I’ve rigged with a computer fan it vents into my 2 tents  the same way the other one did but much more efficiently



That’s awesome Jericho those look fantastic what is your temperature in the tent? looks like you can turn your system up a little bit you want things quite moist, but that looks very good! it makes me happy to see people gaining access to this incredible medicine! Carry on!


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26783728 - 06/26/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Haha! No way! That’s awesome! I think your humidifier is considerably more powerful than mine, perhaps I was in a rush but I had trouble finding one with a large enough capacity and would put out enough moisture, but also not have an ‘on’ switch. The first one I got I had to send back because after the timers turned off then back on again it required me to switch it on! Nightmare.

I don’t actually know the temperature inside the tent haha! I know it’s a rookie error, but I’ve been making do with a cheap mercury thermometer stuck on the wall of the grow room since I started. I had resolved to get a digital thermometer this week so I will probably buy one today. My room looks to be about 85F, usually around 80F but the height of summer has hit which has had quite an impact.

I had been meaning to ask you about how it might effect it if I halved the FAE, so set my timers like this:

Mist: 3 minutes on, 10 minutes off
Fan: 1:45 on, 24:15 off

Or do you think it might be better to use the timers as I am now, but maybe delaying the fan coming on after the humidifier by 4-5 minutes so there is more condensation and less evaporation?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26785687 - 06/26/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wow that must be nice. Dunno if I’ll get permission to add that to the room lol.

Jericho, I’m using the same humidifier Jake has listed in his write up. It’s 1 gallon so I’m having to refill it every 24-36 hours. I don’t have a jartha but it’s similar. I’m 2 weeks into fruiting and still constantly playing with the timers. The nice thing about the humidifier in Jakes write up is that you can adjust the power of the humidifier, which gives you another option to more precisely dial in the tent.

Edit: anyone else that finds it tedious to re-tape the hose to the humidifier, lmk if you have any tricks.
One thing that I’ve been doing that works good is just squinting a little water from a syringe into the crack between the hose and humidifier spout/opening. This creates an airtight seal, but sometimes it’ll only last for 2 cycles, sometimes it will last all day. But even when the seal breaks, there’s not too much fog escaping.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26797339 - 07/01/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh right, they sound similar then, mines about the same volume wise and also last about the same length of time. Also adjustable. The problem I found was that my trays closer to the top of the tent were drying out quicker as the hose from the mister comes in vertically at the top and the mist all sinks down. I've been meaning to install some sort of turbine blade set up at the end of the hose to spread the mist better through out the tent.

I have a fewwling it had just been a little too hot in there. My trays seem to be spent now as nothing more is coming through so I will wait til my current batch of jars are ready to try a few different things. Need to get some damn manure!


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jericho_Button]
    #26828577 - 07/17/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How are you keeping the tent heated? I may have overlooked that part.

Edit: Nevermind, I see a few pages back that the whole room is heated year round with a heater.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26831336 - 07/18/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I just have a heater in the room the first few days I put it in there I keep the temperatures a little warmer (low-mid 80s) but for the most part I just keep my room around 76 to 78° (a little warmer inside the tents since the heater is pointed at them) but nothing  fancy


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26831435 - 07/18/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I got a four tier so I’ll be crafting this thing this week. Differences I have a humidifier instead of a fogger and I have a high quality small space pc fan instead of the bathroom fan. Should work ok.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26833106 - 07/19/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are these trays ready to go or did they stall out for some reason?

This is my first time trying any pans, these are Pan Trops. I think I should of cut the straw up finer but I bought pre cut straw for my next trays so that should be a lot better and easier. I used just rye berries this time I am going to try mixing with millet next run.

I have been following your tek with the jartha set up excited to put some trays in the tent! I also have Bisporous and Australians on agar ready to be transferred to grain.

Edit- I forgot to add both pics are the same tray but I have I think five more and they all look similar. It looks like the straw/manure sub isnt colonizing. I kept the sub for 5 days before using it but it was in the slow cooker (off) the whole time after pasteurizing it. Should I have transferred it to jars or a ziplock or something for the 5 day wait?





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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: LongJonSilver]
    #26833109 - 07/19/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: LongJonSilver]
    #26833184 - 07/19/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Are these trays ready to go or did they stall out for some reason?

This is my first time trying any pans, these are Pan Trops. I think I should of cut the straw up finer but I bought pre cut straw for my next trays so that should be a lot better and easier. I used just rye berries this time I am going to try mixing with millet next run.

I have been following your tek with the jartha set up excited to put some trays in the tent! I also have Bisporous and Australians on agar ready to be transferred to grain.

Edit- I forgot to add both pics are the same tray but I have I think five more and they all look similar. It looks like the straw/manure sub isnt colonizing. I kept the sub for 5 days before using it but it was in the slow cooker (off) the whole time after pasteurizing it. Should I have transferred it to jars or a ziplock or something for the 5 day wait?








Yeah it looks like it Was oxygen starved your manure looks really dark which makes me think it may not be aged enough also I can clearly see your Spohn separate from your bulk you need to mix it together better to quickly achieve full colonization and Minimize your risk of contamination


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26833185 - 07/19/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looking good celestial!


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26833362 - 07/19/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok thanks for the help!
To age the manure I just let it sit out in the sun?
Also when you say oxygen starved, is that because of the manure not being aged or do you mean it doesn't have enough holes in the aluminum foil on top?
Next try I will mix it all together instead of doing layers.

Edit- Do you think I should try throwing these in the tent how they are or just move on to new trays? Or is there anything I could do to help them out a little like maybe take the covers off completely or something?

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26833369 - 07/19/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

CelestialExlporer  we have the exact same tent. It looks exactly the same. I like how clean your bottom part is wrapped that part was a pain! I could only get strips of velcro and they were so sticky if I didnt put them right from the start I couldnt take them off or it would of tore the tent plastic.
The filter and tent look exactly the same though I think we have the same tent from the same company. I liked the see through one but it was a little bit more than the green colored one.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: LongJonSilver]
    #26833374 - 07/19/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It could be a couple of things first of all if it’s too moist that will smother the culture also having too much manure can do it do you want to make sure you cut in about 60% straw shredded really fine this will help keep it fluffy and allow air to move throughout the substrate and then finally yes do you want to mix it together really well I never put foil on top but my trays have plastic lids although recently I’ve been pressure cooking Myco bags and using sterile bulk just because with summer time comes more contamination and I was having Too great a failure rate with pasteurized bulk


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26833376 - 07/19/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn’t necessarily give up on those trays they might pull through and finish colonizing it how many days has it been?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26833383 - 07/19/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its been a little bit now. Prob 2 weeks. I keep thinking they just need a few more days but when I come back they dont look that much better. (A little bit but not much).
I actually just edited the first post I made asking about if I should try those trays right before I saw your second post.
Is there anything I could do to help them along? I was thinking just take the covers off since you were saying it looks too wet anyways.
Thank-you!
Also I got some good bisorous and australian agars going the mycelium on those looks way healthier than the pan trop ones I was using. I think with the new agar and finer straw plus using more straw this time it might help things. I am still hoping I can get something from these trays though.

Edit- I was also just thinking about the straw volume. I did try to do 60% by volume but I think cause I didnt cut it very fine it actually wasnt nearly as much straw as it should of been overall which would cut down on the fluffyness or oxygen in the substrate. I bought the precut stuff cause cutting it with scissors got old really fast!

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26835051 - 07/20/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How long do you pressure cook the bulk sub?

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