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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26481309 - 02/12/20 01:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Well opening the door is going to change the Thermo dynamics of your tent having the HEPA filter cut in up high and your fan down low causes the fan to drag the fog down into the casing of the trays on its way out through the fan that’s also why your fogger comes in overhead it’s basically the same Thermo dynamics of a mono but it’s machine forced


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26481310 - 02/12/20 01:26 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

And you may not have to use a HEPA filter I do just because they’re the perfect size and I figured why not but you could probably get by with a vent filter


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26481313 - 02/12/20 01:31 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I think of it like this pans grow best in cow pastures there among tall wet grass so they constantly are kept in a good micro climate in terms of humidity and then a breezy pasture would constantly be moving air with little tree cover so it would be warm and large amounts of evaporation taking place.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26481384 - 02/12/20 03:43 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks :takingnotes:


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26482336 - 02/12/20 05:04 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks duuuuuuude


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: hallmaker]
    #26485376 - 02/14/20 12:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hey jake I have my fan and humidifier cycle timed pretty damn close to 3 minutes on 9 minutes off. Kinda tough to get that specific. I do see some drying on the surface of the casing but also a little darker brown underneath. Humidity levels anger pretty erratic. Below are the lows and highs.
47.1
71.6
48.1
76.0
50.8
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49.7
74.1
48.4
75.1
56.3
78.9

Think I should bump up the humidity timing a bit?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26485401 - 02/14/20 12:44 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Do I understand you correctly that the highest you get your humidity is about 78%RH?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26485404 - 02/14/20 12:46 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm getting 79% as a peak now. Might still be establishing a baseline it's only been cycling a few hours.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26485408 - 02/14/20 12:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Have you had successful growths with those numbers before?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26485413 - 02/14/20 12:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

If your case is looking dry increase your fog time your casing should be saturated but no puddles right before puddles form is where you want to try and hold it then once you have pins coming up you can dial it back a little bit but not much


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26485422 - 02/14/20 12:57 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't tried this rapid evap/hydrate strategy yet. I usually inkbird cycle my humidity in 90's high, 70's low and run the fan on a timer. Successful but not anything like jake has been doing with less focus on humidity and more on timing and surface conditions.

Edit - Thanks jake I'll keep tinkering.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26485432 - 02/14/20 01:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Alright. I'm happy to hear that.
Because I been so focused on not letting my RH drop below 90 ever! So I had a hard time finding a sweet spot and I would get pooling when I had empty trays inside. Now I use my inkbird and it picks on at 88rh and turn off at 96 but keeps going up to about 98%RH. Then after about 12-15 min the cycle starts over again. No more pooling now.

Got some bags made Asura style about to be finished colonizing in the bag. So very excited. Failed with pans many times before tho but think I'll get it soon 😁

This time I will for the first time. Try to pasteurize my casing using the keep warm setting on my crockpot. God I hope it works because that shit is so damn simple. Thanks for that tips Jake :rockon:


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26485446 - 02/14/20 01:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've had pooling and a lot of excess water in the bottom of my GH. Hopefully this new strategy remedies some of that.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26485563 - 02/14/20 02:27 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Excess water in the bottom of your tent is normal that’s why I have that white plastic tray under my tents every few days I suck it up with a wet vac and pour a little bleach water down there then I completely disassemble and deep clean about every 2 to 3 months but this last time I just put new plastics on and wiped everything down


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26487396 - 02/15/20 05:26 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Can store bought manure be used in lieu of hpoo? I don't have any access of the later.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26487412 - 02/15/20 05:44 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I've grown P. Bisporus with Black kow. It works but not ideal it's a little to dense.  If I ever use it again I'd dry it, shred, rehydrate then pasteurize.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26487437 - 02/15/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have access to black kow either lol. I'm limited to the bagged manure found at garden shops, home depot and Lowe's.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
    #26487478 - 02/15/20 06:25 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Could work as long as it's not supplemented with commercial fertilizers. You don't need straight manure either. Many of us use 30-40% manure with straw and maybe verm.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26487519 - 02/15/20 07:00 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Just so long as store bought manure will work, I'll give it a go and find out.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26487575 - 02/15/20 08:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Black kow is a Lowe's product. I find it there everytime. 50/50 kow and verm works great in bottles.


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