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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: PhosCap] * 2
    #27465133 - 09/12/21 07:49 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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The computer fan on top of the fogger tub blows in when the fogger is turns on, correct? Does it matter if the fan is mounted on the side or top?  edit:  I have a slew of computer fans, does it matter what fan speed it is




That is correct. I have an extension cord plugged into the cycle timer I use to control the humidity cycles, and the end of the extension cord has multiple outlets. So I plug both the fogger cable and the computer fan cable into that so both turn on when the timer trips. The computer fan is an 80mm but you could use a 120mm or whatever you want really. I have a speed controller with a knob on it for the fan - basically it goes fan -> speed controller -> 120VAC-to-12VDC converter -> electrical cord with plug. The speed controller is really useful for dialing things in and I would definitely advise it. You can have the fan mounted anywhere on the tub - direction doesn't matter because it's not really blowing air in the direction it faces, instead it's pressurizing the air inside the tub which causes the air to look for a place of lower pressure to move to, and that lower pressure area is the greenhouse. I mount the fan on the top because if you mount it on the side, it means you can't fill the tub with water as high and you also run the risk of water sloshing out and getting the fan wet and making a mess when you're moving the tub or if you accidentally kick the tub or something.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens *DELETED* [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27497881 - 10/08/21 08:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: savan73]
    #27498260 - 10/09/21 07:17 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I like 1-2 weeks I’ve never tried putting in fridge

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27531038 - 11/05/21 08:39 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Jake, quick question for you: How many days do you let your trays consolidate after they reach 100% colonization before you fruit them, and do you case them right before you put them into the tent or do you case them at 100% colonization?

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Hindsight] * 2
    #27531113 - 11/05/21 09:35 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Takes 7-10 days for trays to fully colonize them I case and wait about 24 hours before putting into fruiting

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27531134 - 11/05/21 09:56 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Great thank you!

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27617007 - 01/13/22 07:24 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

So I wondered, I'm still reading everything I can find about panaeolus cyanescens.. and one thing I wonder about is the following: what if you found a few nice fruits, made the clones and then.. well, do nothing with them for like half a year. I read pan cyan mycelium loses it's vitality pretty quick (correct me if I'm wrong.. this is just what stuck with me). So what would you do..? just make a few nice prints for a future project and just work from spores every time (will not produce the best crop, but thats the trade off)?

I happen to buy a LC from a vendor in the Netherlands and asked for how long in will stay oké.. the vendor literally said "for months, if not years", explaining there was a special formula which conserved the mycelium for a long time. I'll definitely test that though..

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: 0t0lerance] * 2
    #27617017 - 01/13/22 07:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You can try but more likely than not it’s not going to be super vigorous and you will likely get just a few scattered clusters at best even when I’m transferring running iso’s they only perform optimally for me for about six months then I go back to spore

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27617036 - 01/13/22 08:00 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You can try but more likely than not it’s not going to be super vigorous and you will likely get just a few scattered clusters at best even when I’m transferring running iso’s they only perform optimally for me for about six months then I go back to spore




Alright, thank you. Well, I'll just not bother then and just make nice spore prints from the biggest caps, save those for a next grow focus on agar work. Regarding agar; lets say out of 10 sectors, do you happen to know many times do you hit a non/poor producing sector? Just to get an idea how many agar plates with spores I should start from to get at least something that fruits. The process of growing something is a joyful thing anyway

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: 0t0lerance] * 2
    #27619074 - 01/14/22 07:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It depends But you can usually tell by their appearance which ones are going to be decent fast-moving wispy growth is what you are after I’d say you get usable candidates out of about 65% of your MS streak plates

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27619485 - 01/15/22 06:33 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Ah that is good to know! Thanks Jake! I hope to get started soon.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27676869 - 02/28/22 12:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Jake,
I’d really like to build this jartha, but I’m concerned about all the humidity being released into the room. Do you find the room humidity to get too high?  Or am I worrying over nothing?  I was thinking if I filled the exhaust with some sort of mesh, maybe it would let the humidity condense back to water and go into the tray?  Or maybe exhaust it outside somehow?  I just don’t want the room to get too humid and grow mildew or mold on all the other things in the room.  What are your thoughts?
- David (1st time poster and still pretty new to this world)

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27707136 - 03/24/22 03:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

How long do you let your substrate sit after pasteurization

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: DavidFL]
    #27707297 - 03/24/22 05:58 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Jake,
I’d really like to build this jartha, but I’m concerned about all the humidity being released into the room. Do you find the room humidity to get too high?  Or am I worrying over nothing?  I was thinking if I filled the exhaust with some sort of mesh, maybe it would let the humidity condense back to water and go into the tray?  Or maybe exhaust it outside somehow?  I just don’t want the room to get too humid and grow mildew or mold on all the other things in the room.  What are your thoughts?
- David (1st time poster and still pretty new to this world)




I just saw that this question went unanswered. I ran a similar tent last summer, and didn't have any problem with excess humidity. Once it turned cold and the humidity dropped inside, I was still running a humidifier to keep it from being too dry.


Mvc9827, anywhere from 1 to 7 days should be good.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27839300 - 06/27/22 05:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I am FIANLLY getting around to putting one of these incredible tools together; took almost 3 years of procrastination.

I have a question regarding the air flow during the dehumidification cycle. The cycle where the lower fan sucks in air through the top hepa filter. During that cycle, how do you prevent the air flow from being sucked through the fogger exhaust tube? I plan on running a multidisc ultrasonic fogger head in a cooler and figured that the air meant to be pulled through the hepa filter would instead follow the path of least resistance through the fogger tubing/cooler.



My potential remedy(without hearing any of everyones' valuable input):

Remove the hepa filter from the top of the GH entirely and seal it up. Then, install a hepa filter on the air intake tubing to my ultrasonic fogger, that way the fart fan at the bottom of the tent pulls air in only from that source for both the fogging and dehumidified cycles. for this setup there would be no intake/pusher fan in the fogger setup because all of the airflow would be provided by the exhaust fan(fart fan) at the bottom of the GH. 

Or I could leave the build identical to the instructions with one exception: install an inline check valve where the fogger tubing is exiting the fogger. This would prevent the low pressure provided by the bathroom fan from accessing the fogger's air path.



I'm sure there are potential problems with my solution and potentially better solutions to the problem in general.

Anyone running the disk/fogger humidification style of JOC have any advice?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27901818 - 08/13/22 10:01 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Hey brother., just put some spores to agar yesterday so I need to get my setup ready here soon for some Pans. I am only probably going to be able to run one(1) or two(2)of those 116qt, as I don’t have the space for more than that. I was wondering if a computer fan would work for just one? For two, I may just get a bathroom fan though. I am still not sure how you connect one fan to multiple tubs, as I can’t tell from the pics. I am very sorry for being late to the party as I am a newb in mycology.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Art_Vandelay.93]
    #27901824 - 08/13/22 10:10 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The tub system works a little differently from the Tents rehydration of your sun must balance against evap check out the link in my dig and I can help go over it with you in more detail

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27901896 - 08/13/22 11:28 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Thank you so much! I’ll be in touch on that link, just checked it out, gonna try to pitch in for the $10, since I don’t have much money but am super grateful for the advice!

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27902140 - 08/13/22 03:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Hey brother, I saw you were able to successfully build the JOC tub setup, I was wondering, so instead of the bathroom fan, did you put a computer fan on EACH of your tubs to pull the air/fog out, plus have the humidifier on the middle feeding to each one? Or how did you work in the fan? Just put some spores together agar yesterday and need to get a FC setup soon.

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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: SFS96]
    #28049820 - 11/13/22 11:05 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

may I ask the 1:4 spawn to bulk ratio is that by weight or volume?

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