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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27005464 - 10/26/20 11:33 PM (1 month, 2 days ago)

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I just use 50/50 verm and peat moss with a few handfuls of crushed oyster shell balanced to 7-7.5 with HL (but normal I don’t need much HL if any)
I’ve not used sand for pans Before but I’m sure it would work if you kept it thin enough



Maybe I was thinking of your tamps.... I have 3 tamps growing and 2 pans.... I was wondering also if tamps can be done easy with lc? Also I heard it's not good to grow them in bags for the stones.... Jars only?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: trippytimes]
    #27016333 - 11/01/20 10:07 PM (27 days, 16 hours ago)

Sorry if this question was already asked but I couldn't find the answer.
I've pasteurized the substrate 5 days ago in oven bags with the end tightly knotted and they've been sitting that way since then. I didn't open them yet.
Now I am wondering, did I do well letting them sit closed without loosening the knot? Is it possible that there's now some anaerobic contam going on there?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27016390 - 11/01/20 10:52 PM (27 days, 15 hours ago)

I’ve wondered the same. They sell pasteurized manure online in mycobags but they roll it up tight and it’s sealed so I figure that if it’s pastuerized Good enough there should be a problem. I usually keep mine in a ziplock bag shut and rolled up and it’s usually fine.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27018309 - 11/02/20 10:58 PM (26 days, 15 hours ago)

Should be fine for a week or so I pasteurize mine in jumbo ziplocks and leave them sealed for a week or so


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27018329 - 11/02/20 11:10 PM (26 days, 15 hours ago)

Thanks for the answer guys!
So, once it's been pasteurized, can it sit indefinitely without opening it? Or should I repasteurize it past certain time in spite of being airtight?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27018415 - 11/03/20 12:00 AM (26 days, 14 hours ago)

No not indefinitely. There’s definitely a shelf life not sure what that would be a week maybe two. Best to freeze it after a couple days.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27019244 - 11/03/20 02:01 PM (26 days, 14 minutes ago)

Gotcha! Thanks for the information :biggrin:


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27028871 - 11/08/20 06:05 PM (20 days, 20 hours ago)

One more question here! Do we have to let the casing recover for 5 days also after pasteurizing or that's just with the substrate?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27028880 - 11/08/20 06:12 PM (20 days, 20 hours ago)

If you mean the microbe build that’s just with the substrate but it probably wouldn’t be a horrible idea with the casing either.
And it doesn’t have to be 5 days but from what I’ve heard the longer the better.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #27028885 - 11/08/20 06:16 PM (20 days, 19 hours ago)

Thanks CE
Then next time I'll pasteurize both simultaneously, freeze the casing at day 5 mark and thaw it when needed :cool::thumbup:


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27040706 - 11/15/20 04:43 PM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

Guys!
As I don't have the possibility to build a martha I've been experimenting and all of my trays literally stalled, most of them without even throwing pins. So I thought changing the setup and, as I yet don't have the possiblity to have a martha or GH, the best I could think of was the next buildup:



They are both 20q tubs pasty style (with a couple holes on all four sides) with an aquarium heater set on each one at 82F. And also an air pump.
I was wondering, would it be overkill if the air pump runs all day long? It just has the basic on-off setting.
Any suggestions on this setup?:thanx:


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27040711 - 11/15/20 04:45 PM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

How were you fruiting them when they stalled out of interest?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: coversall]
    #27040734 - 11/15/20 04:58 PM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

Hey coversall! I fruited them at the tent of plastic bags of my other post you were following also haha.
Remember this pic?

I don't have anything in my house that could both up the FAE and provide humidity for that tent.. so I'm trying out this ghetto system of heater and air pump now in a tub.
Crossing fingers!


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27040762 - 11/15/20 05:13 PM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

Oh yeah! My brain is a bit fried, had a deadline this weekend so haven't had much sleep. Sorry to hear they stalled out! Have you seen the low tech fruiting chmambers that pasty, and MacMerdin used? Might be worth a shot and doesn't require much investment.


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: coversall]
    #27041080 - 11/15/20 08:44 PM (13 days, 17 hours ago)

I’ve got some noob questions I haven’t been able to find an answer for. Jake mentioned that if you’ve got stubborn spores or your growth is stalling you could use this agar recipe:

1000ml distilled water  (1000g)
32g dextrose (sugar)
16 g malt extract
16 g peptone
8g yeast
20 g agar
10 g potato starch

(Optional below)
.3 g ammonium citrate
.2 g thiamine
.2g magnesium phosphate

How is this superior to a simple mea, mya, etc. recipe? Is this recipe just more dialed in for the nutritional needs of pans?


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27041165 - 11/15/20 09:58 PM (13 days, 16 hours ago)

I'm sure it must spice up performance or something. If Jake suggests it, I'm sure he has his good reason.
Anyways, if you can't get all those ingredients as me just give dog food agar a try. That recipe never failed me. Always worked for me with every specie. These were the results with my Pans cyan around 7-9 days from transfer


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: gabbk]
    #27041242 - 11/15/20 10:54 PM (13 days, 15 hours ago)

I want to grow pans again, posting to bookmark...


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: hummingbird]
    #27041252 - 11/15/20 11:00 PM (13 days, 15 hours ago)

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I want to grow pans again, posting to bookmark...



You can do that without posting. "Remind Me!" button at the bottom of the post or "Toggle Favorite" at the bottom of the page


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #27044248 - 11/17/20 07:01 PM (11 days, 19 hours ago)

Jake - thanks very much for this...quick question from a noob: Can pans be grown with Brown Rice Flower tek?

Thx very much!


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Re: JOC TEK Panaeolus cyanescens [Re: rascallywabbit]
    #27044512 - 11/17/20 09:59 PM (11 days, 16 hours ago)

Check out macmerdins pan cakes


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