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 Are these safe to eat 
#25924925 - 04/09/19 02:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hi, first time growing so I bought three grow kits. One was a success and I have just dunked for my 3rd flush but had difficulty with my Hawaiian Cubensis.
They were growing at the sides and bottom and very little on top so I took them out the tub being as sterile as I could and let it grow in the bag on the tub. It seemed to be working well until i noticed some mushrooms were definitely moldy so I harvested the lot.
The question is are some of these shrooms OK to eat once dried out?
Is the kit ready for the bin or should i try again?
There is some white fuzz but no black mold on the mycelium.
Sorry I know there are a lot of posts on mold etc and have looked but was hoping for your expert opinions. Thanks
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25924976 - 04/09/19 02:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hard to say my dude looks like alot of bruising mainly. Black and squishy or smelly of any sorts a no-no. Also looks like alot alot of aborts? I would say they look Pretty healthy but I'm just some guy on the internet, you need to make quadruple sure before hand so I'd wait for some OGs to get in here:)
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25924985 - 04/09/19 02:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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The ones in the middle photo look rank for sure though, black spots too soggy/furry
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Just bruising and sub stuck to them..all fine to eat\dry
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The ones in the middle photo look rank for sure though, black spots too soggy/furry
Mushrooms can bruise black. Black isn't an indication if it's good or not. I myself have had many black ones in my day. I agree that smelly mushrooms aren't good.
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 Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Mad Season]
#25926549 - 04/10/19 11:40 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They smell fine and look more blue than black now that they have dried a bit.
I created a SFC now so took the cakes (?) out of their tubs and put them in that. Looks like this is turning into a new hobby. Looking at automated an exhaust fan .
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25926804 - 04/10/19 02:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Don't go OTT, there's no need for fans or the like..normal airflow from a tub is perfect
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Oh really? I'm at work for a lot of the day and not around to fan so was going to have a setup where I'd exhaust co2 when needed. Is this ott yeah?
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25928242 - 04/11/19 09:28 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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My housemate is quite a whizz with this sort of stuff we were tempted to implement something like this https://www.instructables.com/id/Environmental-Mushroom-Control-Arduino-Powered/
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25928439 - 04/11/19 12:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Mushrooms don't need fanning, what do you think it does? Fresh air come in trough holes in the tub or around the edge..that's more than sufficient trust me
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Oh really. There is so much conflicting information i had the impression that misting and fanning was important. Judging by your pics you obviously know what you are talking about. So I just mist and keep the humidity up and im good to go?
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25928518 - 04/11/19 12:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'm just going to leave this here.
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Mad Season said:
What about the canopies where there is misting?
I misted these guys every day.
People need to stop fuckin flaunting egos over whether you should mist or not. The answer is fuckin simple as balls..
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How it shouldn't look: (finding the Goldilocks zone)
 
These are slightly on the dry side. They need to be MISTED DIRECTLY very briefly. Like a couple passes, a foot or 2 high.
 
These are too wet, and going bacterial. Notice the pools of water and thick rubbery mycelium? They need to be cut back on misting for a bit until at a reasonable surface hydration, and increased FAE.
How it should look. Beads of moisture and/or glistening:
Always use a flashlight to look for glistening!
Uncased substrate:
   - PussyFart
 (just after a misting)
Cased bulk substrate:
  
Cakes rolled in verm:
 - stareatclouds
YOU MIST DIRECTLY BASED ON WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, AND CATER TO THEIR NEEDS, NOT A SET SCHEDULE OF 2-6 TIMES A DAY!
I agree that fanning is pointless. I haven't fanned since 2013. Misting on the other hand is not pointless. It is meant to keep the surface happy. You get a canopy by having a happy surface. To me, it's more impressive when someone can pull off a happy surface by deciding if they should mist when the time comes.
There's also these 2 links here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=21288129&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#21288129
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22105120
IMO the order of importance goes happy surface/proper misting, FAE, light, then humidity, at the lowest. Humidity is basically a crutch for growers. It makes a growers life easier by not having to mist as much. If you're able to mist constantly, you can grow in 10% rh, as seen above.
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Mad Season]
#25931916 - 04/13/19 09:08 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the useful info guys
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25933519 - 04/14/19 04:06 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I now have these in the SFC. Are these mushrooms OK? They look like they have a little black ring under the tops.
 
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25934155 - 04/14/19 02:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Just the veil, they are fine
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That is good news thanks
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25937446 - 04/16/19 06:26 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hey! I have my first growkit at home. Its a standard growkid from magic-mushroom-shop.com, sort is called red boy. The first flush was wonderful with harvested 104g fresh mushroom in enormous sizes. Because the mushrooms growed only at the sides of the cake with barely no place to go inside the box I decided for the second flush to place the cake on the plastic cover of the Box for more room to grow. Now the grown mushrooms have a furry texture on their stems.
Does someone know, if this is normal? Maybe in the growbag it was to wet and to warm? Are they safe to eat?
After harvesting the second flush i noticed green contamination under the cake. It was as big as a cd. I cracked the cake open and it was just superficial. There was just a dark part of the cake, I think due to the extreme humidity. No green, no red, no gray on the inside. The white mycel in the cake was in beautiful condition, so i decided to cut the contamination away and water the two halfs of the cake again. Sadly I forgot to take photos of the cake.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Simon666]
#25939292 - 04/17/19 05:38 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'm new to this too. I'd say start a new thread and you will probably get more feed back from the pro's.
I havnt seen any of that fury stuff on the bottom of the stems on any of mine that have grown big but it could be normal for that strain I don't know. Best to get some expert advice before eating them, mold is nasty stuff.
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Simon666]
#25939579 - 04/17/19 11:21 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They are just fuzzy feet, aerial myc on the base means you need more FAE but yea u can eat them.
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Re: Are these safe to eat [Re: Herbilizer]
#25939594 - 04/17/19 11:30 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Herbilizer said:
My housemate is quite a whizz with this sort of stuff we were tempted to implement something like this https://www.instructables.com/id/Environmental-Mushroom-Control-Arduino-Powered/
This is very complicated, and I can’t imagine it would help anything.
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