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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
Mental Slavery said:
I Love Lucid said:
He talks about 5meo on Joe's podcast. He'll get over it when more time goes by, he only did it a few months ago



yeah, id be surprised if it transformed him very drastically for a long period




Why do you guys think like that? DMT isnt some fad that we get into then slowly realize we were immature for being into it. Its a truly life changing experience. Why should mike ever get over it?

You guys seem to think you are above everything and its really sad to be honest.



You're making a lot of assumptions man. I'm not a thing above it, I'm just saying the impact wears off a bit in time, the need to tell everyone on his show is likely going to die down a bit even though he'll probably still consider it a major, life-changing experience


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
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DMT has weird smoke.

For me it burns more than anything else for the first 3 seconds or so, but then the burn goes away almost completely. If I get past the initial pain without coughing I know things are about to get going

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: icetech]
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icetech said:
Shenmue said:
Clean/pure white dmt out of a GVG doesn't bother my lungs at all. One of the reasons why I always recommend a re-x is because it's a lot easier to use. A matter of fact you'll probably learn to love it. A re-x is easy to do and worth your time.



Yeah.. mine is bright white, used gordotek, no fats at all. Will look into re-x.

I'm not sure how bad i want to do it at this point anyway... i have done hmm 62ish trips in 16 months.. and lately i have been very fuzzy.. I think that comes down to smoking too much weed though. Life is sucking so lately i smoke the minute i get home so i can just sleep the days away to get this over with.



Same same, I think I got into it too late in life.  I did all my bizzare shit with salvia and I certainly don’t feel the need to revisit right now.  I think the only way the spice is going to fit into my life is through what O’reiley is saying, a modest dose of pharma.  I don’t need to see aliens..:shrug:


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said:
icetech said:
Shenmue said:
Clean/pure white dmt out of a GVG doesn't bother my lungs at all. One of the reasons why I always recommend a re-x is because it's a lot easier to use. A matter of fact you'll probably learn to love it. A re-x is easy to do and worth your time.



Yeah.. mine is bright white, used gordotek, no fats at all. Will look into re-x.

I'm not sure how bad i want to do it at this point anyway... i have done hmm 62ish trips in 16 months.. and lately i have been very fuzzy.. I think that comes down to smoking too much weed though. Life is sucking so lately i smoke the minute i get home so i can just sleep the days away to get this over with.



Same same, I think I got into it too late in life.  I did all my bizzare shit with salvia and I certainly don’t feel the need to revisit right now.  I think the only way the spice is going to fit into my life is through what O’reiley is saying, a modest dose of pharma.  I don’t need to see aliens..:shrug:



Ah.. i tend to skip his posts.. didn't see that. Dunno.. only drugs i have done are weed and LSD.. and shrooms twice (hate them) so.. i don't actually have a desire to try much more BUT.. DMT interests me a ton just to see what i find in my brain..


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: icetech]
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fuck pharmahuasca, grow chacruna



that was some light pruning off a bush in the window. a handful of leaves is all you need.

didnt know you could get harmaline on ebay.

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: cannabinated] * 1
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Do other alkaloids in chacruna, caapi, or rue effect the experience significantly?


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said:
fuck pharmahuasca, grow chacruna



that was some light pruning off a bush in the window. a handful of leaves is all you need.

didnt know you could get harmaline on ebay.




Pharmahuasca is the shit. And yeah, you can. Its so much easier and it rips you right through. It seems to really hit the receptors directly and percise as possible


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: I Love Lucid] * 1
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In my opinion it's a lot better to extract the alkaloids. Dmt fumarate extracted from mimosa hostilis with harmala alkaloids extracted from the vine. Even when you're making a tea it's still a extraction so you might as well go all the way. That way you can enjoy a trip without throwing up pooping your pants lol. Also there's less anxiety because it isn't as hard on the body. Try not to get into all of that shaman hocus pocus. Most of us on here have the ability to extract pure dmt, grow mushrooms, make changa, brew ayahuasca and much more. We're more advanced than the jungle people lol. The way I see it they should be are apprentices not the other way around 😂. They would probably sell their daughters for a pressure cooker lol.

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Shenmue] * 1
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Shenmue said:
In my opinion it's a lot better to extract the alkaloids. Dmt fumarate extracted from mimosa hostilis with harmala alkaloids extracted from the vine. Even when you're making a tea it's still a extraction so you might as well go all the way. That way you can enjoy a trip without throwing up pooping your pants lol. Also there's less anxiety because it isn't as hard on the body. Try not to get into all of that shaman hocus pocus. Most of us on here have the ability to extract pure dmt, grow mushrooms, make changa, brew ayahuasca and much more. We're more advanced than the jungle people lol. The way I see it they should be are apprentices not the other way around 😂. They would probably sell their daughters for a pressure cooker lol.



Those jungle shamans the real deal OG though. It's more badass to be wild human in the jungle and figure out how to trip balls by doing primitive chemistry in the jungle. You ain't shit with your spoon fed Internet guides!


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: trees]
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Bill_Oreilly said:
Mental Slavery said:
yeah, id be surprised if it transformed him very drastically for a long period




Why do you guys think like that? DMT isnt some fad that we get into then slowly realize we were immature for being into it. Its a truly life changing experience. Why should mike ever get over it?

You guys seem to think you are above everything and its really sad to be honest.



I dont think im above it, but that interpretation is very understandable. Ive barely done dmt and cant do it anymore due to extreme discomfort and health reasons. Mike is probably more experienced than I in that realm. I dont think it is a fad that we get over necessarily. Id love to experiment more with it. I think a lot can be learned. All that being said, my standards of "transformation" are extremely high and i have been sorely disappointed from what ive seen from my own experience and every single person that ive met who has done psychedelics and claimed to be transformed. We are using different criteria to define transformation. Overall hasnt been radical enough for me. That is all. Im a bit cynical about it i will admit, and maybe in this cynicism is a bit of condescension, but good for mike if it brings him meaning, contentment, and openness

if mike were to get to the level of dilgo khyentse rinpoche or abhinavagupta or even your average zen monk (tend to no longer foster hateful thoughts towards themselves or others and be hyper rational and calm)  from psychedelics, then i would really be with it

Sorry to tangent off of the main thread. i will stop now


edit: honestly rereading this i still sound kind of dickish, so im probs am, but this is genuinely how i feel, and im not sure how to work around that

Edited by Mental Slavery (04/10/19 04:16 PM)

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Mental Slavery] * 1
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You really gotta know how mike was before and then after to judge. All the people who really know him say mike is like a whole different person.

I think the transformstion happens when you stay close with the psychs. Not doing them for a long time can make one really cynical about them..until they finally do it again.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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Absolutely. We all need another "lesson" from time to time to remind us of the learning experiences of psychedelics.

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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fair enough

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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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trees said:
Shenmue said:
In my opinion it's a lot better to extract the alkaloids. Dmt fumarate extracted from mimosa hostilis with harmala alkaloids extracted from the vine. Even when you're making a tea it's still a extraction so you might as well go all the way. That way you can enjoy a trip without throwing up pooping your pants lol. Also there's less anxiety because it isn't as hard on the body. Try not to get into all of that shaman hocus pocus. Most of us on here have the ability to extract pure dmt, grow mushrooms, make changa, brew ayahuasca and much more. We're more advanced than the jungle people lol. The way I see it they should be are apprentices not the other way around 😂. They would probably sell their daughters for a pressure cooker lol.



Those jungle shamans the real deal OG though. It's more badass to be wild human in the jungle and figure out how to trip balls by doing primitive chemistry in the jungle. You ain't shit with your spoon fed Internet guides!



Bill_Oreilly said:
You really gotta know how mike was before and then after to judge. All the people who really know him say mike is like a whole different person.

I think the transformstion happens when you stay close with the psychs. Not doing them for a long time can make one really cynical about them..until they finally do it again.



I haven’t tripped in a very long time - I am hoping to re-kindle the experience soon.


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: AdamTonk999]
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AdamTonk999 said:
I haven’t tripped in a very long time - I am hoping to re-kindle the experience soon.



That is unacceptable! there is a weekend coming up soon you know :smile:


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: icetech]
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icetech said:
AdamTonk999 said:
I haven’t tripped in a very long time - I am hoping to re-kindle the experience soon.



That is unacceptable! there is a weekend coming up soon you know :smile:




Haha oh trust me I know! 

The biggest thing holding me back has been the availability of substances - I have been peeking around some pastures when I have the chance but so far no luck!  I am in GA as well, which is one of the only 3 states where ordering mushroom spores is illegal :sad:

I know when it is time to trip again the mushrooms and I will cross paths :mushroom2:
Or the Lucy and I will cross paths haha


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: AdamTonk999]
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Must watch podcasts:

Both Dennis McKennas
Rick Doblin
Hamilton Morris
Michael Pollan
Paul Staments
Graham Hancock


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: AdamTonk999]
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my list goes:

Neil degrasse tyson
Mckenna
Steve-o
Elon musk
Bill burr


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: Chakanooga]
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Ahhh forgot about the good ole Musk podcast  - I like the Tyson one but he seems like too much of a puppet to me.


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Re: Joe Rogan Experience [Re: AdamTonk999]
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AdamTonk999 said:
I like the Tyson one but he seems like too much of a puppet to me.



puppet of who?

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