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Noodlehead182
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Ink cap and cube growth help
#25920881 - 04/07/19 08:45 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok so I've been doing some research but haven't had much luck looking it up. I just moved my b+ brf cakes to a bulk substrate it's a poop mix. I'm 7 days in mycelium looks really healthy but just today I could see the smallest ink cap peaking out should I worry I picked it off but idk what to think of the grow at this point. A pic for ref.
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Noodlehead182 said: Ok so I've been doing some research but haven't had much luck looking it up. I just moved my b+ brf cakes to a bulk substrate it's a poop mix. I'm 7 days in mycelium looks really healthy but just today I could see the smallest ink cap peaking out should I worry I picked it off but idk what to think of the grow at this point. A pic for ref.
Looks fine so far
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Tormato]
#25920925 - 04/07/19 09:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've found inc caps to pop up in my unpasteurized patches outdoors (By the hundreds and thousands)
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Geinstein]
#25921098 - 04/07/19 10:52 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ink caps come in on thenpoo because of incomplete pasteurization, why not just switch to coir like 90% or people these days, its easy and it works .
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Noodlehead182
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: AyePlus]
#25921798 - 04/07/19 06:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I honestly started with poo and figured it would naturally grow on it so why not use it... that's honestly just my opinion tho I would like to know if its possible to still grow in these conditions if anything I'll just let me grow see what happens
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You see when people think they grow on poo they think spores drop onto it and start growing It actually first drops on grass or what ever the Horse eets then germinate inside the stomach so by the time the horse poops it out it has colonized most of it and is ready to fruit
When your working with poo you need to pasteurize it because other stuff have star to to grow on it
Last thing outdoor patches is easier then indoor Most of the time your completely fine not pasteurizing anything when its an outdoor patch.
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Geinstein]
#25922287 - 04/08/19 01:09 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Geinstein said: You see when people think they grow on poo they think spores drop onto it and start growing It actually first drops on grass or what ever the Horse eets then germinate inside the stomach so by the time the horse poops it out it has colonized most of it and is ready to fruit
When your working with poo you need to pasteurize it because other stuff have star to to grow on it
Last thing outdoor patches is easier then indoor Most of the time your completely fine not pasteurizing anything when its an outdoor patch.
Sounds good but not how it works. The spores don't germinate until well after the poo has been deposited and aged.
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Doc9151]
#25922293 - 04/08/19 01:27 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Geinstein said: You see when people think they grow on poo they think spores drop onto it and start growing It actually first drops on grass or what ever the Horse eets then germinate inside the stomach so by the time the horse poops it out it has colonized most of it and is ready to fruit
When your working with poo you need to pasteurize it because other stuff have star to to grow on it
Last thing outdoor patches is easier then indoor Most of the time your completely fine not pasteurizing anything when its an outdoor patch.
Sounds good but not how it works. The spores don't germinate until well after the poo has been deposited and aged.
Aaaaah Shit I always believed that was how it worked Fuck My bad! ! !
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Geinstein]
#25922576 - 04/08/19 08:15 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So its possible that it's already contaminated then ?? I bought the substrate online so I'm thinking it's not properly pasteurized although if the ink caps have colonized it as well is it possible that the b+ I'm using can fight it off...
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No it won't I've notice inc caps to show up most in places I've got wood mulch But to be fair most of them gods layers of poo underneath
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: Geinstein]
#25923466 - 04/08/19 04:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm sorry do u mean it won't fight it?? The ink cap I saw was honestly really tinny and I just moved to bulk it looks like its growing really healthy I'm honestly just gonna see what happens I think if anything they might grow together I've seen a few cross breeding strain attempts where the two strains just began growing alongside each other instead...
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Ur b+ can still grow. Just have to wait and see.
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Re: Ink cap and cube growth help [Re: nube424]
#25923938 - 04/08/19 09:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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True only time will tell I guess, thanks I'll keep you all posted.
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*update* I'm seeing lots of healthy pinning although I keep having a few little guys pop up they have really thin stems and pop up rarely think it's a problem ???
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Anyone have an idea as too why the mushrooms are coming out differently??
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Noodlehead182
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Sorry about all the nonsense I actually found my answer here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10752928#10752928 just in case
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Even though you have an answer I thought I'd chime in.
For poo, just because something grows on it in the wild doesn't mean it's the optimal environment for it. Think about it, that's the environment that it found a niche in the local ecology. Likely there are other options that it just can't beat other things out at colonizing, so it takes a route with least resistance. When we do super artificial environments as hobbyist we get to give the mycelium a huge leg up on colonizing things that are actually better for it, but they wouldn't ever have the chance to in nature.
We get to play god here and give our little fellows whatever is best for them.
With that said, switch over to coco coir only next time, you'll have an easier run of it
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Thanks for the reply but would you say coir has an effect on the potency in the yields compared too poo or it's all the same ??
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Noodlehead182 said: Thanks for the reply but would you say coir has an effect on the potency in the yields compared too poo or it's all the same ??
Coir is:
- Cheap AF if you need to buy your supplies
- Easier to prep
- Less chances for contamination
- Easier to get at field capacity
- Easier for myc to colonize
It has very little to do with the potency... nothing really affects potency. It does make it way easier to grow mushrooms with less steps.
Poo seems to have a place in mycology, but it's not growing cubensis. More like growing edibles/gourmets/medicinal/tropicals.
Edited by ShaperDreaming (04/12/19 03:33 PM)
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Noodlehead182
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Tnx I've read a little about it I have some APE coming in by the end of the month I'm gonna switch over to coir for those.
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