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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25917863 - 04/05/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Lmao, you should be more concerned with glyphosphates in your food




There's no such thing as glyphosphates.

Make sure you at least know the name of the chemical you're spreading misinformation about.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
    #25917876 - 04/05/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:rofl:

Glyphosate might not be the end all be all but im glad we have to use less of it to get the same results as older more harmful pesticides. I'm all for brilliant scientists making advancement. But hey fuck them because they can't make a miracle pesticide so they shouldn't even bother trying to keep the world fed. Oh by the way we're the most healthy humans have ever been. But everything is killing us

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #25917878 - 04/05/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

An old, but barely used AA25x tested and working above 15 PSI is a snap buy at <$200, right?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25917883 - 04/05/19 04:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Yes

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #25917884 - 04/05/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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But everything is killing us




And whatever isn't killing us is causing autism...

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #25918129 - 04/05/19 06:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I'm confused on filter patch bag teks for spawn
do I or don't I have to seal the bag before going into PC?
Ive got 10 quarts of oats ready to PC and ran outta jars, have 100 filter patch bags tho.
Was gonna use 5 quarts each and inoculate with pint masters, which are ready to go.

this looks like no seal?

Ive also read about using a zip tie?

will the bag seal without me doing anything prior to PC, and tmr when im ready to drop the pint in, do I just dump and refold/rezip?

:confused:

edit: my bags


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #25918165 - 04/05/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

It depends on the micron rating of the patch. I believe you can get away with pre-sealing with the bigger ones, like 5 micron, but smaller (for grain spawn usually) like .2 can't be presealed or they'll pop in there during the cycle. I use Tyvek sleeves folded inside accordion style ala RR.

The bag will "seal" on the cool down of the PC when it compresses against itself. But it's not a true seal like with an impulse sealer. The zip ties are for after you inoculate with your pint. You roll down the top of the bag, twist it together so there's no end exposed, and zip tie it.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25918175 - 04/05/19 06:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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It depends on the micron rating of the patch. I believe you can get away with pre-sealing with the bigger ones, like 5 micron, but smaller (for grain spawn usually) like .2 can't be presealed or they'll pop in there during the cycle. I use Tyvek sleeves folded inside accordion style ala RR.

The bag will "seal" on the cool down of the PC when it compresses against itself. But it's not a true seal like with an impulse sealer. The zip ties are for after you inoculate with your pint. You roll down the top of the bag, twist it together so there's no end exposed, and zip tie it.




they are .5 micron and atm unless I run to to the store, I don't have a means pre seal (assuming this requires an impulse?)
is it necessary? like agar for LC necessary?

I actually  :pm: you specifically on this a week or so ago lol

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Legend21]
    #25918466 - 04/05/19 09:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyone ever have this happen to their PC? I’ve never had this happen before thenonly difference this run is that I tried oats for the first time and ran for 2 hours. Still had plenty of water in the bottom none of the foil covering the lids were burnt so I don’t get it. Smells metallic- the only thing I can think of is I boiled my oats in the PC before pressure cooking the jars. Maybe there was some nasty it residue left but I washed it out after the boil and before the PC cycle. Opened it up and just black shit stained on the PC that won’t wash off





Just a bit of ring rust... hasn't caused any issues


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25918654 - 04/05/19 11:44 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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stareatclouds said:
It depends on the micron rating of the patch. I believe you can get away with pre-sealing with the bigger ones, like 5 micron, but smaller (for grain spawn usually) like .2 can't be presealed or they'll pop in there during the cycle. I use Tyvek sleeves folded inside accordion style ala RR.

The bag will "seal" on the cool down of the PC when it compresses against itself. But it's not a true seal like with an impulse sealer. The zip ties are for after you inoculate with your pint. You roll down the top of the bag, twist it together so there's no end exposed, and zip tie it.






Save yourself some time and headache and quit using the tyvek sleeve pieces. The bags seal upon cooling and I’ve seen no increase in contamination.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #25918853 - 04/06/19 05:01 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

It's fine. You should see the bottom of my presto.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25918946 - 04/06/19 06:47 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Just a bit of ring rust... hasn't caused any issues



Yeah I was more worried about that black crap on the side.

I ended up cleaning it and now it’s like new again



What’s more important is that the grain came out okay! Maybe a little on the wet side but I’m excited to try the oats



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25919191 - 04/06/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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:rofl:

Glyphosate might not be the end all be all but im glad we have to use less of it to get the same results as older more harmful pesticides. I'm all for brilliant scientists making advancement. But hey fuck them because they can't make a miracle pesticide so they shouldn't even bother trying to keep the world fed. Oh by the way we're the most healthy humans have ever been. But everything is killing us



Eh not necessarily true.

As far as overall health care, sure; But anthropology has
shown that humans had a more nutritious diet, with less grain, and had long life expectancies
contrary to popular myth. Their dental health has been shown to be pretty
decent as well since their diet wasnt infused with sugar.

The whole myth of how much better life is under capitalism, communism, monarchy, etc.
vs. just living in nature as nature intended is a lie told to keep us all
complacent. And it works. I like modern ammenities but I have to work
half my waking life to attain them, where as ancient man built a home
and only worked to maintain it and gathered food from nature when hungry.

They just want you to thank your government for saving you from living
free in exchange for working 40+ hrs a week. Be a slave to society then
thank them for the pleasure.

Not to mentian societal role in all modern day diseases and ailments.
People crowding together, drinking shit water which totally killed all
of our immune systems today which is why we cant easily drink natural
water anymore, or "live water". Tons of other examples. I can provide
links to peer reviewed articles but it's pretty easy to google.

The earth provides for every being that it can sustain. The only thing agriculture
has done is support a population too big for the earth to sustain naturally
while making the situation worse every day.

People will say "but agriculture was necessary to feed a starving population!" but that isn't true. The last thing a starving population
does is plant a crop that takes 6+ months to harvest. Ancient man knew there was
strength in numbers and that's why they tilled the earth. And now here we are
reaping what they sowed.

Again though i like modern advancements also and they say that modern
society is directly attributed to the advancement of agricultural practice
but I disagree. It would have happened anyway, albeit a little bit slower.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #25919275 - 04/06/19 11:21 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid: is false.

agriculture allowed people to specialize. prior to the ag revolution, pretty much everyone needed to contribute to food procurement. without it, humanity could never have created the bicycle.

whether we are better or worse off for it, i'll leave for other people to debate. but such technological advancement pretty much required the industrial revolution, which itself required the agricultural one. in truth, it's debatable whether we'd have figured out steel without farming.

feel free to disagree.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #25919309 - 04/06/19 11:42 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:wowjustwow:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25919321 - 04/06/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

And this all started from a post about my dirty pressure cooker :rofl:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #25919390 - 04/06/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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:whathesaid: is false.

agriculture allowed people to specialize. prior to the ag revolution, pretty much everyone needed to contribute to food procurement. without it, humanity could never have created the bicycle.

whether we are better or worse off for it, i'll leave for other people to debate. but such technological advancement pretty much required the industrial revolution, which itself required the agricultural one. in truth, it's debatable whether we'd have figured out steel without farming.

feel free to disagree.



Firmly disagree. The iron age could easily have happened regardless of agriculture.

Any archeology professor or anthropologist will likely tell you the same thing.
The idea of nomadic hunter gatherer societal structures are also
an archaic belief.

The point I am making here is that food procurement wasnt as difficult as
you are made to believe. As said, the earth provides for what it can sustain.
Agriculture allowed us to build populations at alarming rates which helped
push civilization faster than it should have. We are still a horribly immature
species. But to say we never would have made advancements without it is
just wrong. Hell some civilizations are still in the dark ages even though
they've been tilling the earth for centuries.

Also societal advancement was simply one point of my argument which is that
we are not necessarily the healthiest we've been. What about mental health?
I'd say we are worse than ever in that department.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #25919401 - 04/06/19 01:05 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh::kittylaugh::buzzaldrin:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25919458 - 04/06/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

it's way otd, so this is my last.

wrt food being easy to get... if it were so, agriculture wouldn't have developed in the first place, would it? have you read ishmael? awesome book i think you would like.

and iron is not steel. iron can be cast in the backyard. steel is very difficult to make. it took a lot of effort to figure it out, by lots of people who weren't otherwise required to spend their waking lives finding food. and steel is positively necessary for the kind of advancement seen since the industrial revolution. advancements would certainly have been made. but we most certainly would never have made it to the moon. or invented integrated circuits. or indeed, even bicycles.

we are most certainly an immature species. couldn't agree more there. and probably doomed to extinct ourselves.

steering back to mushcult. i've been wondering if grass clippings could be used instead of straw for projects where straw would be advised. anyone ever tried it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash] * 1
    #25919464 - 04/06/19 01:46 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

yes, RR used to recommend letting your grass go to seed then spawning to your clippings pile as is


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