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Offlinecrazychemist
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My Pedro Arrived! (pics)
    #2591743 - 04/22/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I found a Pedro on e-bay and from what I hear on the Shroomery he is very good. I got a 35", 11 pound pedro for $25. How many first timers do you think this cactus will treat if made using mj's technique? 12" a piece = 3 people? Thanks in advance!





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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2591796 - 04/22/04 06:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

AN 11 lb. cactus is enough for at least 4 people. And that's going on the rediculous notion that it's around 95% water, which I don't think it is. That's just my rudimentary guess.

P.S. You should think about saving the growing tip to root. It shouldn't matter that it's been despined. Just cut off about 5" or so.


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2591848 - 04/22/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome. I think it would be pretty cool to grow part of it! Thanks for the tip, does anyone else agree with Ekstaza?


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2592604 - 04/22/04 10:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I cut off a 6" tip and have it drying under my shroom drying fan.  :smile:  I was reading MJs prep guide and he said a 12" 1 pound cutting is good, mine is 11 pounds over 35", so that would be 3.8 pounds per 12".  Is that going to be too much?  And then again I don't want to take a dose that is too small for my first time either.  Grrr...  any tips would be wonderful since I have gone and confused myself.


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2592794 - 04/22/04 11:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What you have run into is the wonderful delima that measuring doses in length of cactus brings. People don't always figure in the width. But I like you, you are smart and you thought of it.

Since some of that weight is the inner core which is less potent than the outer green flesh I would say to take about 1.5 lbs each person. That should put you right where you want to be.

This is all just my rough guess as I have no idea how potent your cactus may be. It's a bunch of math to try to figure it out off hand.


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2592839 - 04/22/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here's some info I posted in another thread. It may help. One thing to note is that everything is measured from dried cactus. Cactus is around 90% water so use that to do some figuring.

Here is the info from Erowid that I use to guide my doses.

Oral Mescaline HCl Dosages
Threshold 100 mg
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 300 mg
Strong 300 - 500 mg
Heavy 500 - 700 mg


Lophophora williamsii - 300 mg / 27 g dried material
Trichocerus peruvianus - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)
Trichocerus pachanoi - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)

I usually go with about 50 dried grams.
Using the mean between .3% and 2% of 1.15%, that makes my doses around 575 mg.
But theoretically they could be anywhere from 150mg to a staggering 1grm .

Here are the LD50 doses for rats, mice, and guinea pigs.
LD50 crystals : 212 mg/kg i.p.(mice)
LD50 crystals : 132 mg/kg i.p. (rats)
LD50 crystals : 328 mg/kg i.p.(guinea pigs)

Using the LD50 for rats(because it is the lowest) to estimate my LD50(I know it doesn't really work this way but I'm doing it just for a very rough estimate), I would need to consume 13.771 grams of pure mescaline to kill half a population of rats my size.


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2600197 - 04/25/04 08:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nice specimen..

Peace..


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Re: My Pedro Arrived! (pics) [Re: crazychemist]
    #2600346 - 04/25/04 10:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hi Crazychemists.

Tahth formula for my san pedro preparation is for fresh san pedro. but you can do it dried. I just never nave.

Good score. I bought three recently form Bouncing Bear Botanicals and they stiffled me onthe size. The first three I bought for friends months ago were very large and were about 40ur inches in diameter. These ones were like 2 1/2 inches. Wrote to them about it complaining and they did not responsed top my emailCharged me the same price for the three I just got as the three bigger ones they sent be the first time.

I will never order from them again. So be warned.

mj

I say this because of their failure to respond to my email about my complaint to them.


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