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Tossing contam spawn outside?
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This is probably a controversial question  and I'm good to go either way with it, but what I'm thinking is I have no problem starting over new bag and colonizing this is just one of many of us failed but also could not I throw this out in a field and  and In time have a mycelium matt outside making me shrooms when the conditions are right. Or is this not possible because it's contaminated right now from the start with mold? Well not not possible but going to produce vad fruit if any?


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Edited by Ababyphoenix (04/02/19 06:57 PM)

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
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pretty much everybody does this afaik.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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Psilosopherr said:
pretty much everybody does this afaik.



Ok so should i do it now or wait for full colonization? Just shook them at 70%

And to be clear I bury them right?


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Edited by Ababyphoenix (04/02/19 07:14 PM)

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
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Do it right meow.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: impatientguy]
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Personally, I'd throw that mess in the garbage without opening the bag.  It looks like it's almost all mold, you don't want to breathe any of that.


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"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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oh man you're right, didn't even look at em


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Facts.

Probably wont hurt you, but you never know what's growing in there.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: impatientguy] * 1
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I take moldy fucked bags to the dump. If it just some bacteria I bury that shit in the flower bed.



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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: LotKid]
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Bury it

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Its_pat]
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Open it in a bucket of water outside so the mold doesn't go airborne and stick to your clothes. Then tip it on a compost heap n bury it

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: UncleHoyphae]
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I've either boiled or microwaved (depending on the container) my contaminated jars before opening, to minimize the chance that whatever's growing in there spreads elsewhere. If you can dump it outside far from where you grow, it might be fine, but I think the risk of having trich / other contaminants getting at your future spawn far outweighs the cost of giving up on a contaminated jar or bag now.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Durgin]
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As long as you have healthy spawn it really shouldn't matter though


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: impatientguy]
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Yeah, and having mold spores floating around your apartment / house is a great way to not have clean spawn. If you're working with a flow hood, it's less of an issue, but I'm assuming the OP isn't there yet.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: UncleHoyphae]
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UncleHoyphae said:
Open it in a bucket of water outside so the mold doesn't go airborne and stick to your clothes. Then tip it on a compost heap n bury it



Seems sketchy to me rather not risk it just to maybe fucking make my whole neighborhood city. I live i suburbs so spores would go in pols lawn n shit and it could be a problematic


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Edited by Ababyphoenix (04/03/19 10:34 AM)

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Ababyphoenix]
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Ababyphoenix said:
I live i suburbs so spores would go in pols lawn n shit and it could be a problematic


This would make the suburbs 1000% more interesting.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Durgin]
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Durgin said:
Yeah, and having mold spores floating around your apartment / house is a great way to not have clean spawn. If you're working with a flow hood, it's less of an issue, but I'm assuming the OP isn't there yet.


Clean spawn is very resistant to mold and contams.

You already do have mold spores floating around everywhere.

Do you spawn to bulk under a flow hood? Probably not.


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Edited by impatientguy (04/02/19 11:38 PM)

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: impatientguy]
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Indeed there are already some, which is why we use an SAB or flowhood, I'm just suggesting not making it worse by allowing more mold to keep growing. And my concern here isn't spawning to bulk, it's things like a2g and g2g inoculation, where extra mold spores in the air will directly increase the rate of contaminated spawn. But anyway, we can agree to disagree here - I just don't see the benefit in trying to save contaminated spawn if it could even slightly increase the risk of bad spawn in the future.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Durgin]
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You got a point man.  Uncolonized grain is definitely not contam resistant.

Kinda semantics at this point, but your right.


Honestly if it were me I would throw it away as well.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: impatientguy]
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And... Two strangers on the internet come to a reasonable resolution to a disagreement. These mushrooms really are magic!

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Durgin]
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Ha, yes they is. That's why we go ape shit on them and get into long and heated debates about whether or not to look at the trash as you take it out.
I just wanted to chime in on the spore load debate. To be clear, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS, but, I do have an uncomfortable number of absolutely triched out tubs in my garage. i should go take a picture for you but... believe me, they are crazy looking contam bonanzas. I set tubs in the garage if they trich out on me mid flush. These tubs went out with a tiny bit of trich on them and i had to leave town. they are gnarly now...


anyways, the point of all this rambling is this; I have very successful grows going on in very near proximity to the highest spore load that is possible outside a vacuum. The garage bone is connected to the kitchen bone... living room... hallway... mush room. One door seperates. one door to bind them.

i think that folks don't understand this shit as much as they think they do (myself included) roger used to say that he grew some where with visible black mold growing on the walls... i still try to get tubs out if i see them going wrong and don't open fucked jars in the house but, I dump shit in the back yard that literally makes a green fucking cloud when it hits the ground.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
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My place is mold and mildew city...also have contamed tubs all over. It's cold and I don't want to take them outside yet. Plus I'm a procrastinator.

I guess the point of all this is don't be scared of "spore load" nonsense. We live in a world full of spores and such that are just waiting for the right conditions. This is why we go to great lengths to protect our spawn until it's fully colonized and can defend itself.

I don't lose much to contamination, probably less than average, and I live in an old house with visible mold all over. Plus it's drafty and I have forced air heating.

Get your agar and grain prep game dialed in, and you really won't need to sweat spore load.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Subfinder]
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Depending on the temperature outside you can give it a try. My old buddy tossed his contaminated stuff in the garden and it yielded some outdoor fruits. I myself love burying spent substrates in a garden between July 15th and August 15th.... the only time here in canada that the temperatures are right for a outdoor grow.

So yes, it can work but it's not guaranteed.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Fun-G]
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People with 1000+ posts: "Throw that shit out!"

People with >50 posts:  "its's still good"

Your call OP.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Did anyone really suggest it's good? Most people just said to bury it outside, which wouldn't make a lot of problems.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: poisoned]
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That means opening the bag, which is retarded.

In the trash it should go, that thing is nothing but trich.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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If you have outdoor space then composte your contaminated and spent subs. I've got a large garden and I just pile it all up till next season when I mix it into my soil beds. Worms love it.


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Edited by Failboat (04/03/19 08:15 AM)

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: Failboat]
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I don't think it's retarted. The entire world is heavily infested with trich. I wouldn't open it up and then go to SAB work in the same clothes or anything but i see no harm in dumping her in the garden. I have a veritable mountain of spent sub and spawn in my garden. Like the above poster, mine is just composting and waiting to be tilled into the soil.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: verum subsequentis]
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I never said anything about contams in the work space, don't know why it keeps coming back to that.

My main concern is breathing in a bunch of trich that has dropped a spore load.


I see a lot of new folk on here wanting to cling to their spawn in some way after it goes bad, and they shouldn't.  This is a hobby where learning to just chuck things when they go bad is a good thing.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: verum subsequentis]
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I'm a fan of opening jars and bags inside a 5 gal bucket full of water. Well I've never done bags but I would if I did em. I see no problem. Then I pour it all into a pit in my backyard (large field). I think the water catches 99+% of spores and bacteria. If I were in the city I'd probably toss everything in the trash.

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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: El Chupacabra] * 1
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i don't trip on breathing it in. I just figure out which way the wind is blowing and open in in such a way that the evil spore cloud blows away from me.


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Re: Tossing contam spawn outside? [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
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A little common sense goes a long way. Don't stuff your head in a tub-o-green. Don't waste fertilizer. Minimize organic waste filled plastic bags buried underground. Bathe. Wash your hands before you; eat, SAB/FH, spawn, masturbate, brush your teeth, cook, and after most of these activities as well...


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