Eatmore_lessoften said:

The burn was irrelevant. You kind of focused on the wrong part of what I wrote xD

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Haha That's a good point! I guess nasal pain doesn't really matter during that kind of trip into hyperspace.

Gemaine said:

Hey guys.. I'm in Cape Town, where can I get DMT or shrooms to buy directly.. I would live to try this for my first time asap please..

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Eatmore_lessoften said:

I did not specify what type of dmt, although many of you will assume freebase because of my sensual description of the powder.

The come up was starting in 3 seconds and fully peaking within 10 seconds. by the time I noticed the nose could be a problem I was pure love, fear and everything in between and pain was an illusion that no longer belonged to me. Life and death did not belong to me.

But sigh... to clarify this was a semi synthetic blend of freebase, plus the yellow kind mixed into it.

I don’t know anything though I did shrooms for the first time in years on April fools day recently and I feel it healed my body and my brain, it took my useless pain and reminded me to love myself. I felt like sharing my dmt trip rather than rant about my shroom trip.

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It's obvious it was freebase from your description mate. There's no ass in that assume. Salt form would have been no where near as painful.

Extracted white DMT is just as natural as yellow. The only difference is yellow has a little plant fats in it. Synthetic is laboratory manufactured from precursor chemicals. A very rare thing indeed usually only found in research facilities.

Glad to hear you had such a good journey. I was pleased to read that you didn't just black out or have a difficult experience with that dosage too. Thanks for sharing your experience.

And feel free to rant away about your shrooms trip. If ever there was a place people are willing to listen and respond, this is it. 

Eatmore_lessoften said:

But sigh... to clarify this was a semi synthetic blend of freebase, plus the yellow kind mixed into it.

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"Semi-synthetic." 

Nature Boy said:

Sure.  Of course it's a "thing" (proper terminology) for certain drugs and as the results of some preparations; but semi-synthetic is NOT a term that could ever be applicable to DMT...so stop trying to compare apples to oranges.

Either it comes from a wholly natural source (acacia, mimosa) or is fully synthesized (think Shulgin).  There's no middle ground.  Hence, referring to the DMT you snorted as semi-synthetic (like LSD) and trying to explain away the degree of nasal mucosal burn (as did the OP) because your DMT was "semi-synthetic" is idiotic.  It burns because DMT freebase is (as the name implies) a very strong base - and the LAST thing you would want to snort.

It is dirt cheap and stupid easy to turn the freebase into a fumarate salt for insufflation.  You know how I know that?  I posted the technique to this board eight YEARS 10 months ago.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12506186#12506186

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There's no middle ground.

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What about extraction N-methyltryptamine and do one methylation? That's no middle ground at all!

Lol sorry for the sarcasm, but you speak like you know this stuff and I just can't not reply in this way

''I read Pihkal, I know chemistry''

Nature Boy said:

You know perfectly well the OP's source was not derived from a semi-synthetic process.  I've been an active participant on this board for more than a decade and no one has ever offered up any DMT related experience from any source other than a plant based extraction.

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Nature Boy said:

It is preposterous and bald-faced exaggeration for the OP to suggest otherwise.  And to attribute the "burn" to that very "semi-synthetic" characteristic is just ludicrous. No matter HOW you arrive at the substance, once you insufflate freebase DMT - experientially it is precisely the same and independent of the method used to derive it.

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Daijo said:

I don't know really. I've never taken DMT that wasn't made from bis-methylation of plant extracted tryptamine.

I've shared photos of my product and shared my experiences.

The color can be brown if not well purified.

Take it down a notch, bae. There's nothing that fancy about semi-synthesis.

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Nature Boy said:

Eatmore_lessoften said:

But sigh... to clarify this was a semi synthetic blend of freebase, plus the yellow kind mixed into it.

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"Semi-synthetic." 

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I guess be snorted LSD

connectedcosmos said:

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Daijo said:

connectedcosmos said:

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At this point, it's all I can do. There so much shit being said hahaha I'm going back to League of Legends.

but seriously, fuck off with your protonations, that's not synthesis hahahahahhaa

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Northerner said:

Exactly. I'm glad you see the irony.

Seems that you're a lot of talk. Didn't actually want to explain how you got to "I've never taken DMT that wasn't made from bis-methylation of plant extracted tryptamine."

Called your bullshit mate.

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I simply took the tryptamine bottle from Aldrich, which they get from plant extraction. I dissolve in 1,4-dioxane, cool to 0°C in an ice bath, add some catalytic acetic acid and a hydride source (it was NaBH3CN or triacetoxyborohydride, I can't remember and would both work) and add dropwise a solution of formaldehyde over two hours at 0°C. Followed by stirring at room temperature for a couple hours until LCMS indicated complete conversion of tryptamine.

A little shit get synth'd too in there because of competing mechanisms, making the purification quite a bitch :

Here, over the decade that dude said earlier, he never witness anybody tell about semi-synthetic DMT.

Daijo said:

shadowman-x said:

repeated crystallizations mah boi . Physical separation and it's not too hard. Check out this thread .
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6683

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But check this out :

Flash chromatography followed by recryst



edit : it's the freebase, so it doesn't do nice crystals.

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from Post your candy. Just go take a look at the posts
Here is the LCMS (one peak)

You can see the desired mass from the mass spec.

189 m/z corresponds to the mass of charged DMT (protonated). N,N-DMT weighs Molar mass: 188.269 g/mol. Add one proton to charge the molecule so it can move in a magnetic field in the MS, 188+1=189

I've also never had plant extracted mescaline. Got it from 3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzyl cyanide reduction with LAH.

Northerner said:

Seems that you're a lot of talk. Didn't actually want to explain how you got to "I've never taken DMT that wasn't made from bis-methylation of plant extracted tryptamine."

Called your bullshit mate.

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Daijo said:

You want an organic chemistry class from me?

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Nature Boy said:

Sure.  Of course it's a "thing" (proper terminology) for certain drugs and as the results of some preparations; but semi-synthetic is NOT a term that could ever be applicable to DMT...so stop trying to compare apples to oranges.

Either it comes from a wholly natural source (acacia, mimosa) or is fully synthesized (think Shulgin).  There's no middle ground.  Hence, referring to the DMT you snorted as semi-synthetic (like LSD) and trying to explain away the degree of nasal mucosal burn (as did the OP) because your DMT was "semi-synthetic" is idiotic.  It burns because DMT freebase is (as the name implies) a very strong base - and the LAST thing you would want to snort.

It is dirt cheap and stupid easy to turn the freebase into a fumarate salt for insufflation.  You know how I know that?  I posted the technique to this board eight YEARS 10 months ago.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12506186#12506186

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